Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 16120275)

Originally Posted by the_pervert (Post 16120314)

bmw > toyota = true
but the bmw costs more
if you need to get from A to B and are cheap or broke, the toyota is the better car.
this is also true for apple vs windows (they are both PCs :P)
the apple is nicer, but the windows box is going to cost more than 1/2.
also if you have real work to do you'll end up putting an emulator on your mac or buying a windows box because windows has a larger selection of apps (with the one exception of video/photo editing)

Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 16145934)

yeah... price wins out...

Gateway DX4820-03 Desktop Computer - Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 2.50GHz, 8GB DDR3, 1TB HDD, DVDRW, Intel GMA X4500, Vista Home Premium 64

$649.99


http://images.tigerdirect.com/skuima...-main01_la.jpg

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...089&CatId=3423


now, that's cheap!

Originally Posted by EDSmontreal (Post 16146357)

PC can do anything a mac can do, for a quarter of the price

I picked up the new macbook pro, I bought into the hype I must admit. I then returned it 3 days later, got a laptop with identical stats, BUT a much better video card, and an HD screen. By returning the mac and getting a SUPERIOR computer, I saved 2000$ dollars.

also...windows 7 is awesome :D

Originally Posted by potter (Post 16011816)

EHHHHHHH Wrong!

You're showing your ignorance here. MACs are expensive because they use expensive hardware. Go look at what CPU and Motherboard a MAC uses, then go to newegg and look at how much they cost.

And we're not talking same "specs" we're taking same hardware. If you go to build a "comparable" PC, you can't just say "oh I put a dual core 2.0 GHz Intel proc in it, just the same as the MAC." There are dozens of variations of dual core 2.0 intel proc's, and the one's MAC use are not the piece of shit low end ones.

When you buy a MAC you are paying for the Hardware, not the OS. :2 cents:

Look it up yourself and educate yourself next time you try to open your mouth about shit you know nothing about.

Originally Posted by potter (Post 16014214)

No, you're simply clueless. You're not very well knowledgeable in computer hardware.

I have not checked the latest MacPro's, however the last time I did the closest thing you could find was Intel's 5000 series. These are the Intel Server Motherboards, for Xenon procs. It's the closest off-the-shelf motherboard you can get to the Intel MoBo Apple uses.

Here is the NewEgg dir of Intel Server boards, go find the listings of the 5000 series. They're all in the 300-500 price range. You think Dell uses those mobos? Or any other "standard" PC manufacturer? Ha!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2%2050001157%2040000 302&Manufactory=1157&SubCategory=302&SpeTabStoreTy pe=1

For procs, they were Using Intel Xenon's with Harpertown Cores.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010340727%205000115 7%201652841710&name=Harpertown

Again, you think Dell is using these procs in their machines? No, most PC manufacturers will go with a cheaper proc with the same "specs".


To the average joe, a quad core 3.0 GHz is a quad core 3.0 GHz. They don't understand the difference between the cores or the proc itself. Or that the price range on quad core 3.0 GHz Intel procs is from $300-$1,700.

If they're selling you a quad-core 3.0Ghz, that's all you're going to see, and you're going to buy the computer based on price. Not whether that is a $300 quad core 3.0 in there, or a $1,700 quad-core 3.0 in it. Some people see beyond the marketing scheme of lowest price, and want the better hardware. You get what you pay for. I've been building my own PCs now for a decade. I'd never use the shit ass hardware any of the standard PC manufacturers use. The parts I buy are the higher end top of the line stuff, which exactly the route Apple takes when building their machines.

People that complain about Apple prices are tools, and don't know shit about computer hardware. A PC with the same hardware as a mac will cost the same as a mac, there's no "theory" here, go research the shit yourself.

- Their ram is however over priced, but everyone knows that! :upsidedow

Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 16145934)

yeah... price wins out...

Gateway DX4820-03 Desktop Computer - Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 2.50GHz, 8GB DDR3, 1TB HDD, DVDRW, Intel GMA X4500, Vista Home Premium 64

$649.99


http://images.tigerdirect.com/skuima...-main01_la.jpg

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...089&CatId=3423


now, that's cheap!

Originally Posted by potter (Post 16146821)

That's disgusting.
It uses a Q8300 processor ::barf::
Since it's Gateway, the mobo is a system board ::double barf::
The video is integrated GMA X4500 (and from a Gateway system board nonetheless) ::triple barf::

Jesus Christ, I wouldn't even take that computer if it was FREE!!!!! Plus, it's sickeningly overpriced. You could build that same thing for like $400 on newegg/tigerdirect.

No wonder people think Apple is expensive. So clueless when it comes to computer hardware. Gateway and Dell are not the "standard" of computers. They use the absolute worst possible garbage hardware you can find.

Originally Posted by potter (Post 16146790)

A MAC is not cheap because they don't make low end versions. They only make their very specific high end stuff.