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Carmine Raguso 07-14-2009 10:14 AM

What have tubes done? Traffic thread ((PICS))
 
http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...eazydream.com&

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...&u=thehun.com&

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...=worldsex.com&

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...pinkworld.com&

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...boneprone.com&

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...y&u=tube8.com&

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...u=pornhub.com&

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...u=youjizz.com&

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...u=xvideos.com&

Martin 07-14-2009 10:16 AM

Got rid of the free loaders on TGP's? Maybe.

martinsc 07-14-2009 10:18 AM

:Oh crap

Barefootsies 07-14-2009 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martinsc (Post 16062782)
:Oh crap

:2 cents:

PastorSinAlot 07-14-2009 10:29 AM

dammmmmmmmmm

Dirty Lord 07-14-2009 10:30 AM

dammmmm boy

SeanLEE 07-14-2009 10:50 AM

enough said! (check sig.)

k0nr4d 07-14-2009 10:53 AM

What it comes down to is everyone can complain as much as they want, but nothing will change until someone comes up with next 'big thing'.

greg80 07-14-2009 10:55 AM

tubes giving out full free videos are not profitable in my opinion and will not survive recession in current form

LeRoy 07-14-2009 10:55 AM

Damn thats crazy.

Carmine Raguso 07-14-2009 10:56 AM

Now let's see how the pay sites are doing:

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...gnaturals.com&

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...ilfhunter.com&

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...rsnetwork.com&

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...0inchplus.com&

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...tesaccess.com&

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...tesaccess.com&

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...osnetwork.com&

Notice a pattern here? Pathetic. I could go on, but I won't. This is just a small sample.

xxxjay 07-14-2009 10:57 AM

You can throw www.jays-xxx-links.com into the sites that have shit the bed.

Carmine Raguso 07-14-2009 10:58 AM

Keep on buying those paid spots Brazzers, your bank account should be empty in a year or so
http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...rsnetwork.com&

Carmine Raguso 07-14-2009 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16062917)
You can throw www.jays-xxx-links.com into the sites that have shit the bed.

You're cool as fuck, but ask and ye shall receive my friend. A fucking shame.

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...xxx-links.com&

greg80 07-14-2009 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmine Raguso (Post 16062911)
Now let's see how the pay sites are doing:

Notice a pattern here? Pathetic. I could go on, but I won't. This is just a small sample.

Deamn. This shows that paysites that are being promoted on tubes are actually killing themselves. Another proof that tubes will not survive recession in current form.

greg80 07-14-2009 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmine Raguso (Post 16062921)
Keep on buying those paid spots Brazzers, your bank account should be empty in a year or so
http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...rsnetwork.com&

Bravo, just bravo. Way to go.

Carmine Raguso 07-14-2009 11:04 AM

Whats funny, if you take the tube sites graph and place it to the right of the TGPs or paysites graph, it almost forms a smile ;) You can actually see when it happened :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

SeanLEE 07-14-2009 11:05 AM

you picked the wrong paysites! Check the niche paysites.

Scott McD 07-14-2009 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmine Raguso (Post 16062760)

Is it safe to come out yet? :party-smi

BSleazy 07-14-2009 11:08 AM

Great thread...

trevesty 07-14-2009 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanLEE (Post 16062948)
you picked the wrong paysites! Check the niche paysites.

I'd agree. Our traffic is up. :thumbsup

Carmine Raguso 07-14-2009 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanLEE (Post 16062948)
you picked the wrong paysites! Check the niche paysites.

Pick your own mack. This is an overall review of BIG pay sites, not mom and pop shit with some lard ass bitch fatty that buys Chinese traffic hoping for sale.

Carmine Raguso 07-14-2009 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iheartbucks Trev (Post 16062962)
I'd agree. Our traffic is up. :thumbsup

Yeah, I agree. Your game is tight bro. Spot on. :uhoh

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...alexjolie.com&

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...perscilla.com&

Agent 488 07-14-2009 11:13 AM

also corresponds to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financi...7%E2%80%932009

Carmine Raguso 07-14-2009 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 16062976)

Nigga please. People always have and always will pay for porn. They would rather take the last $20 out of their wallet for a blowjob or a fap rather than go home and buy little Susie and Johnny a Big Mac to feed them. It's the nature of man. Make excuses all you want.

seeandsee 07-14-2009 11:16 AM

no way, its not tubes :)

Si 07-14-2009 11:17 AM

Very true but I wouldn't take Alexa as gospel. the ratings are all over the fucking place.

Quick example:

one whitelabel website I have gets about 20 hits a day and is roughly 1,500,000

Another gets anywhere between 40-100 per day and is ranked roughly 26,000,000

It's all over the fucking place.

xxxjay 07-14-2009 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmine Raguso (Post 16062925)
You're cool as fuck, but ask and ye shall receive my friend. A fucking shame.

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...xxx-links.com&

There is no shame in my game. How do sites that sell porn compete against ones that give it away? Pull a graph of Filthfreaks if you want. This just illustrates what I've been saying all along.

Nice thread BTW.

Blackamooka 07-14-2009 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 16062976)

The plot thickens.

Duh Duh DUUUUUHHHH!!!!!

LoveSandra 07-14-2009 11:21 AM

this is fucked up

Carmine Raguso 07-14-2009 11:22 AM

And to the moron that stated that it's the economic downturn, come on... TGPs lost it... why? That shit is free? Because assholes like youporn, youjozz, pornhub, yube8 etc are giving it ALL away the fuck for free.

Now look at the graphs of the cuntbags buying spots on those sites. It's like a scared animal painted into a corner and they do not know what to do so they keep spending more money to buy more spots, still watching their traffic fall off they map day by fucking day.

Anyone that says signups are up are either clueless, retarded or straight up fucking lying. You have seen those Brazzers ads on tube sites. They look like fucking tube videos blended right into the site and they STILL aren't getting clicked. The graph proves it.

Robbie 07-14-2009 11:26 AM

Claudia-Marie.Com had a huge spike back when we first opened in 2007 (as does every good paysite), but since then, I've held my own with it. The problem with paysites getting a lot of traffic these days is the stats you show for TGP's. We TGP owners lost all of our traffic to Tubesites that give away the entire movie. Thus we don't have any traffic to SEND to paysites anymore. Pretty easy to understand, and that's why affiliates aren't able to kick any ass. An affiliate without traffic is in bad shape, and that's what a lot of us affiliates are these days. But to hear some of the guys on here explain it...Tube Sites are converting GREAT! Funny, our shit was all over tubesites...but for some reason neither me or any paysite has suddenly gotten a big boost in traffic and sales. Must be some kind of glitch or something. lol

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...dia-marie.com&

Carmine Raguso 07-14-2009 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16063000)
There is no shame in my game. How do sites that sell porn compete against ones that give it away? Pull a graph of Filthfreaks if you want. This just illustrates what I've been saying all along.

Nice thread BTW.

They can't because it's impossible. Like I said in another thread, to many webmasters hoping on sweet conversions in a year or so? Good fucking luck.

Here is what will happen. Tubes will dominate traffic and bandwidth. True webmasters trying to earn an honest living by not stealing other's property will leave the industry altogether or go mainstream. Hosting companies will freak the fuck out and start dropping bandwidth prices so that they can keep their really "big" clients, and the cycle will continue to shit storm until it's dead ... kaput. $.05/gig bandwidth and goodbye XXX untill all of the content looks like mid 90s Angela Baron/Randy West played out crap.

Then possibly the industry will recycle itself.

Tom_PM 07-14-2009 11:32 AM

The other day I typed in a models name on google and hit enter and was presented with a 20 minute long movie on a tube site. It was awesome. I dont recall the site, or any ads, or aything but a porn movie.

Mutt 07-14-2009 11:33 AM

kinda says it all

pornguy 07-14-2009 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmine Raguso (Post 16063032)
And to the moron that stated that it's the economic downturn, come on... TGPs lost it... why? That shit is free? Because assholes like youporn, youjozz, pornhub, yube8 etc are giving it ALL away the fuck for free.

Now look at the graphs of the cuntbags buying spots on those sites. It's like a scared animal painted into a corner and they do not know what to do so they keep spending more money to buy more spots, still watching their traffic fall off they map day by fucking day.

Anyone that says signups are up are either clueless, retarded or straight up fucking lying. You have seen those Brazzers ads on tube sites. They look like fucking tube videos blended right into the site and they STILL aren't getting clicked. The graph proves it.

Carmine. Its NOT just 1 thing its a lot of things.. The Economy SURE as hell plays a role.. The people that can not afford or dont have that 20$ for the fap WILL turn and look for FREE. So there goes the numbers higher. Its in mans nature to always look for the best deal for the least cost.

Tom_PM 07-14-2009 11:35 AM

Which brings to mind the concept that people should only pay for content these days that contains the model(s) actor(s) working with real world signage for your website in place and in frame 24/7. Then a semi transparent watermark across the entire thing.

It's gonna happen. Why wouldnt it happen?

edit: do I sound bitter or cynical? Sorry. Someone is making my life difficult. I'm anger-posting today.

CYF 07-14-2009 11:37 AM

This picture is worth a thousand words, thanks for posting.

flashfire 07-14-2009 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greg80 (Post 16062906)
tubes giving out full free videos are not profitable in my opinion and will not survive recession in current form

they steal the videos...how could it not be profitable

Robbie 07-14-2009 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16063093)
Which brings to mind the concept that people should only pay for content these days that contains the model(s) actor(s) working with real world signage for your website in place and in frame 24/7. Then a semi transparent watermark across the entire thing.

It's gonna happen. Why wouldnt it happen?

That's a fucking great idea. Product placement within the vid itself. Shirts being worn with the site name. A picture on the wall behind the bitches head with the website url. A glass with the url. I'm going to incorporate that idea. Watermarks are so easy to get around and when you start over watermarking or even moving them at random throughout the movie, it starts to become an annoyance. But "product placement", done just like they do in Hollywood when the main character drives a certain brand of car, smokes a certain brand of cigarette, etc. would kick ass!

Matter of fact on Claudia-Marie.Com, we do so much humor in the set up to the scenes that we could OVER do it in a comedic way. Excellent!

The creative wheels are turning in my head.

Juicy D. Links 07-14-2009 11:43 AM

Quick, someone post the Alexa rankings for megaupload and rapidshare

Don't forget the user adult forums that post complete DVD rips

papagmp 07-14-2009 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16063049)
Claudia-Marie.Com had a huge spike back when we first opened in 2007 (as does every good paysite), but since then, I've held my own with it. The problem with paysites getting a lot of traffic these days is the stats you show for TGP's. We TGP owners lost all of our traffic to Tubesites that give away the entire movie. Thus we don't have any traffic to SEND to paysites anymore. Pretty easy to understand, and that's why affiliates aren't able to kick any ass. An affiliate without traffic is in bad shape, and that's what a lot of us affiliates are these days. But to hear some of the guys on here explain it...Tube Sites are converting GREAT! Funny, our shit was all over tubesites...but for some reason neither me or any paysite has suddenly gotten a big boost in traffic and sales. Must be some kind of glitch or something. lol

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...dia-marie.com&

:2 cents::thumbsup

Carmine Raguso 07-14-2009 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16063113)
That's a fucking great idea. Product placement within the vid itself. Shirts being worn with the site name. A picture on the wall behind the bitches head with the website url. A glass with the url. I'm going to incorporate that idea. Watermarks are so easy to get around and when you start over watermarking or even moving them at random throughout the movie, it starts to become an annoyance. But "product placement", done just like they do in Hollywood when the main character drives a certain brand of car, smokes a certain brand of cigarette, etc. would kick ass!

Matter of fact on Claudia-Marie.Com, we do so much humor in the set up to the scenes that we could OVER do it in a comedic way. Excellent!

The creative wheels are turning in my head.

Which changes what Robbie? The fact that it will still be ripped and played for free? What good is a watermarking URLs or a teeshirt wearing whore getting fucked in the ass if they have no reason to ever look at your site in the first place? Fact is, they want to cum... that minute, that second. "What was she wearing again?"... "What was that watermark?"..."What was the logo on that tee shirt?"

Fact is, this is an impulse driven industry and has been since day one. When shit is free people will not pay for it if they do not have to, watermarks, teeshirts, shit in the background.

Carmine Raguso 07-14-2009 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papagmp (Post 16063122)
:2 cents::thumbsup

Yup, seems to take that downward spiral just about the same time as the others did.

New technology is needed, and needed quick. Something extremely out of the ordinary. I have some thoughts and anyone willing to discuss them with me ... well, I am always reachable. This would ENSURE your content is protected on a much higher level than what is available today. Technology that is readily available right this very minute.

I shit you not.

Roald 07-14-2009 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16063113)
That's a fucking great idea. Product placement within the vid itself. Shirts being worn with the site name. A picture on the wall behind the bitches head with the website url. A glass with the url. I'm going to incorporate that idea. Watermarks are so easy to get around and when you start over watermarking or even moving them at random throughout the movie, it starts to become an annoyance. But "product placement", done just like they do in Hollywood when the main character drives a certain brand of car, smokes a certain brand of cigarette, etc. would kick ass!

Matter of fact on Claudia-Marie.Com, we do so much humor in the set up to the scenes that we could OVER do it in a comedic way. Excellent!

The creative wheels are turning in my head.

no shit huh ;))

gideongallery 07-14-2009 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16063049)
Claudia-Marie.Com had a huge spike back when we first opened in 2007 (as does every good paysite), but since then, I've held my own with it. The problem with paysites getting a lot of traffic these days is the stats you show for TGP's. We TGP owners lost all of our traffic to Tubesites that give away the entire movie. Thus we don't have any traffic to SEND to paysites anymore. Pretty easy to understand, and that's why affiliates aren't able to kick any ass. An affiliate without traffic is in bad shape, and that's what a lot of us affiliates are these days. But to hear some of the guys on here explain it...Tube Sites are converting GREAT! Funny, our shit was all over tubesites...but for some reason neither me or any paysite has suddenly gotten a big boost in traffic and sales. Must be some kind of glitch or something. lol

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...dia-marie.com&

but was your ad running right beside the video no
did you do watermarking correctly no

only an idiot would draw the conclusion that those people must be lying just because you didn't get sales when you didn't actually exploit the traffic source properly.

expecting sales when you are doing tube sites all wrong is like expecting sales for tampons in a male only gay bar.

tranza 07-14-2009 11:51 AM

Damn. Tube sites are breaking your business.

Carmine Raguso 07-14-2009 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 16063150)
no shit huh ;))

I lol'd :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Says the king :thumbsup

Tom_PM 07-14-2009 11:54 AM

heh, yeah it's more like something people remember later if anything. "Gee what was that video that got me off so good? oh I remember that tshirt (or whatever) with domain on it" and they type it in.

But really, a nice easy to read and comprehend domain name is a no-brainer for increase in value IMHO. And I'm just a dumb guy.

Roald 07-14-2009 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 16063153)
......

expecting sales when you are doing tube sites all wrong is like expecting sales for tampons in a male only gay bar.

can anyone say ass bleeding?


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