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tonyparra 07-13-2009 11:31 AM

Tubes That Offer full vids: Whats the point again?
 
I know this has been posted 1 million times. I must be slow or something. There are tubes all over the place now. I can understand having teaser clips or even long vids (5-10) if there is a sponsor link under or around the video. I mean, im sure if a surfer is going to click dating ads and banners that offer no real tease or really make an attempt to "sell me", some will also click on sponsor link. What i really want to know is how tube sites like this one, http://porntubie.com/ make money? Isnt money the most important thing? I mean this guy has no description, no sponsor link, full vids, and some dating banners on the side. Oh some shit banners way at the bottom and some chat tabs. How do you make money using this model. Give away everything dont ask for anything back? I.E. cash. Im serious i want to know. Cus i want some fuckin money. So somebody better fucking tell me. Whats the secret? BTW i found this site through twitter as one of the top searches for the term porn.

Ayla_SquareTurtle 07-13-2009 11:33 AM

The point is traffic.

Klen 07-13-2009 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 16059063)
I know this has been posted 1 million times. I must be slow or something. There are tubes all over the place now. I can understand having teaser clips or even long vids (5-10) if there is a sponsor link under or around the video. I mean, im sure if a surfer is going to click dating ads and banners that offer no real tease or really make an attempt to "sell me", some will also click on sponsor link. What i really want to know is how tube sites like this one, http://porntubie.com/ make money? Isnt money the most important thing? I mean this guy has no description, no sponsor link, full vids, and some dating banners on the side. Oh some shit banners way at the bottom and some chat tabs. How do you make money using this model. Give away everything dont ask for anything back? I.E. cash. Im serious i want to know. Cus i want some fuckin money. So somebody better fucking tell me. Whats the secret? BTW i found this site through twitter as one of the top searches for the term porn.

It's a fresh site,so banner management is probably under construction still.

Barefootsies 07-13-2009 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle (Post 16059071)
The point is traffic.

:2 cents:

tonyparra 07-13-2009 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle (Post 16059071)
The point is traffic.

Isnt traffic wasted without a call to action of some sort?

cosis 07-13-2009 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 16059189)
Isnt traffic wasted without a call to action of some sort?

he can build traffic now that he can cash in on later

Blackamooka 07-13-2009 12:17 PM

I don't know about you guys, but I can just as easily jerk off to a 2 minute video at a "legal" tube as I can to a 20 minute video. In fact, a 20 minute video just means I actually have to use my hands to skip to the part I want to jerk off to.

cosis 07-13-2009 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackamooka (Post 16059243)
I don't know about you guys, but I can just as easily jerk off to a 2 minute video at a "legal" tube as I can to a 20 minute video. In fact, a 20 minute video just means I actually have to use my hands to skip to the part I want to jerk off to.

Yeah that what I would have thought.... Not sure why there isn't very many high traffic tubes with just short clips

Nicky 07-13-2009 12:34 PM

Probably building up traffic to sell pre-paid spots later on. BW is cheap....

xxxjay 07-13-2009 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 16059063)
I know this has been posted 1 million times. I must be slow or something. There are tubes all over the place now. I can understand having teaser clips or even long vids (5-10) if there is a sponsor link under or around the video. I mean, im sure if a surfer is going to click dating ads and banners that offer no real tease or really make an attempt to "sell me", some will also click on sponsor link. What i really want to know is how tube sites like this one, http://porntubie.com/ make money? Isnt money the most important thing? I mean this guy has no description, no sponsor link, full vids, and some dating banners on the side. Oh some shit banners way at the bottom and some chat tabs. How do you make money using this model. Give away everything dont ask for anything back? I.E. cash. Im serious i want to know. Cus i want some fuckin money. So somebody better fucking tell me. Whats the secret? BTW i found this site through twitter as one of the top searches for the term porn.

You will find this post is like screaming at a wall.

Dennis69 07-13-2009 02:35 PM

Won't be long before somebody says that you can upsell them for the full high quality vid at the paysite or that full vids don't hurt sales :Oh crap

HorseShit 07-13-2009 02:39 PM

I bet this dumb ass really is the retarded TeenCat>

seeandsee 07-13-2009 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackamooka (Post 16059243)
I don't know about you guys, but I can just as easily jerk off to a 2 minute video at a "legal" tube as I can to a 20 minute video. In fact, a 20 minute video just means I actually have to use my hands to skip to the part I want to jerk off to.

yes but legal tube vids normally are lack of some parts jerkin surfer will enjoy...

And that tube site mentioned in first post is real killer of industry, even the ads are on bottom, how the fuck they make cash, jesus...

tonyparra 07-13-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 16059803)
yes but legal tube vids normally are lack of some parts jerkin surfer will enjoy...

And that tube site mentioned in first post is real killer of industry, even the ads are on bottom, how the fuck they make cash, jesus...

My point exactly.:2 cents:

tonyparra 07-13-2009 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin (Post 16059775)
I bet this dumb ass really is the retarded TeenCat>

I dont like you.

tonyparra 07-13-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 16059301)
Probably building up traffic to sell pre-paid spots later on. BW is cheap....

Ok i get that..but how can you sell ads spots to webmasters if you giving away for free what they are selling? The oonly one that would work is dating. Eventually less webmaster sales means less ad revenue for. Then if you try surfers who want free porn to paying customers surfer will move on, its like trying to get people who who download music for free to buy cds.

BlackCrayon 07-13-2009 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle (Post 16059071)
The point is traffic.

yeah, all that traffic is worth 1000s and 1000s of theoretical dollars.

Tjeezers 07-13-2009 09:49 PM

break a gallery link, go to a 404 and you hot 80% of the time a tube site that is filled with movies of that same sponsor you are trying to sell. Sponsors are the biggest problem with tubes. In-house traffic, 100% sales, core goal of a sponsor... who needs webmasters these days

Snake Doctor 07-13-2009 10:44 PM

Are you asking how they make cash, or are you just venting?

How they make cash is pretty easy to figure out. They pay nothing for content, a few hundred for a script, and bandwidth at volume is sub $4 per meg these days.
You don't have to sell alot of stuff to make a (small) profit with overhead that low.

:2 cents:

Bossman 07-14-2009 12:48 AM

Counter wanking and beer money :2 cents:

Jack Sparrow 07-14-2009 12:59 AM

Not another tube thread, please..

xxxjay 07-14-2009 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 16061314)
Are you asking how they make cash, or are you just venting?

How they make cash is pretty easy to figure out. They pay nothing for content, a few hundred for a script, and bandwidth at volume is sub $4 per meg these days.
You don't have to sell alot of stuff to make a (small) profit with overhead that low.

:2 cents:

Here is one thing Snake Doctor and I can agree on.

Davy 07-14-2009 05:24 AM

I sometimes wonder...
It seems the webmasters running their "legal tube sites" have never jerked off to their own sites.
The surfers don't bother with 1 minute videos. Legal tube sites = stupid.

Ayla_SquareTurtle 07-14-2009 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 16060747)
yeah, all that traffic is worth 1000s and 1000s of theoretical dollars.

I'm not interested in debating whether or not people can make money from "illegal" tube sites. The OP asked what the point was, and that is most certainly the point.

Half man, Half Amazing 07-14-2009 03:50 PM

illegal tube sites get such good traffic because those of us with our own content go there everyday to look for our shit lol

and yes, i'm just kidding

Nicky 07-14-2009 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 16060314)
Ok i get that..but how can you sell ads spots to webmasters if you giving away for free what they are selling? The oonly one that would work is dating. Eventually less webmaster sales means less ad revenue for. Then if you try surfers who want free porn to paying customers surfer will move on, its like trying to get people who who download music for free to buy cds.

Dating and Cams will always work but belive it or not many paysite owners will buy video placements along with ad placements etc around their video as long as you have big traffic. Tube sites do actually sell paysite memberships too.

tonyparra 07-14-2009 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mrfrisky (Post 16061577)
Not another tube thread, please..

I needed my own to feel like a real man. Thanks.

tonyparra 07-14-2009 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy (Post 16061940)
I sometimes wonder...
It seems the webmasters running their "legal tube sites" have never jerked off to their own sites.
The surfers don't bother with 1 minute videos. Legal tube sites = stupid.

3-5 mins of tease works. Nobody watches the whole 20 minute videos thats just a stupid waste of bw, people only skip to the shit they want to see. Example: My vod sites convert at under 1:40 never have been higher that around 1:40-50. These guys buy small packages and watch like 3-5 mins, fap fap and gone. Legal tubes can work if sponsors get off there ass stop taking it in the ass and make some shit people want to ejaculate too. Mainstream movie trailers make you want to watch not all porn trailers accomplish this.

But that is off the subject of my op.

One more point, im the new guy in the room but how can you keep shooting content then giving it away and trying to sell something else other than your content. If you dont sell that other shit i.e. dating webcams etc wont you burn your money and have to shoot less content?

HomerSimpson 07-14-2009 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle (Post 16059071)
The point is traffic.

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:


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