Originally Posted by simonsyinister (Post 16049564)

yea over 80% of the USA..so what

Originally Posted by gwidomains (Post 16049575)

Clearly you didn't read the whole USA Today piece -- or got it from a second hand source that buried the info:

"Much of [the money] has followed a well-worn path to places that regularly collect a bigger share of federal grants and contracts, guided by formulas that have been in place for decades and leave little room for manipulation?The imbalance didn?t start with the stimulus. From 2005 through 2007, the counties that later voted for Obama collected about 50% more government aid than those that supported McCain, according to spending reports from the U.S. Census Bureau."

Another money quote

"Investigators who track the stimulus are skeptical that political considerations could be at work. The imbalance is so pronounced ? and the aid so far from complete ? that it would be almost inconceivable for it to be the result of political tinkering, says Adam Hughes, the director of federal fiscal policy for the non-profit OMB Watch. "Even if they wanted to, I don't think the administration has enough people in place yet to actually do that," he says"

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...-redblue_N.htm


And everyone industry votes for hand-outs as well why do you think lobbyists and banksters are so well paid.

LOL.

Originally Posted by gwidomains (Post 16049575)

Clearly you didn't read the whole USA Today piece -- or got it from a second hand source that buried the info:

"Much of [the money] has followed a well-worn path to places that regularly collect a bigger share of federal grants and contracts, guided by formulas that have been in place for decades and leave little room for manipulation?The imbalance didn?t start with the stimulus. From 2005 through 2007, the counties that later voted for Obama collected about 50% more government aid than those that supported McCain, according to spending reports from the U.S. Census Bureau."

Another money quote

"Investigators who track the stimulus are skeptical that political considerations could be at work. The imbalance is so pronounced ? and the aid so far from complete ? that it would be almost inconceivable for it to be the result of political tinkering, says Adam Hughes, the director of federal fiscal policy for the non-profit OMB Watch. "Even if they wanted to, I don't think the administration has enough people in place yet to actually do that," he says"

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...-redblue_N.htm


And everyone industry votes for hand-outs as well why do you think lobbyists and banksters are so well paid.

LOL.

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 16049590)

surprise, surprise. hey at least he isn't bending over for mbna like bush did.

Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 16049601)

That wouldn't have ANYTHING to do with the fact that red states have been refusing the use stimulus money, fighting it in court, dragging their feet, etc etc... this thread is FAIL.

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16049615)

haha, what an imagination!
now go ahead and post the one article that you'll pretend backs up your claim. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16049595)

no, he's bending us over for the auto unions instead

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16049562)

kinda blows the idea that the smart are voting for obama.

But then, we kinda knew the rabble vote were voting for their hand out and not for their ideals. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by slapass (Post 16049844)

Dude everyone votes with their hand out. that is how it works.. If the current guy does not f up the economy, him or his party get reelected. If he does the president switches. Pretty simple process.

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16049579)

80% of the US what?

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 16050216)

So besides the fact that this sample size is statistically insignificant and besides the fact that Obama won an electoral college landslide and therefore there are far more areas in the country that supported him than didn't, what exactly is your point?

Originally Posted by BradM (Post 16050269)

12clicks :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16049855)

not true! the obama crowd wants everyone else to pay for what they think they're owed. its quite a shift in mindset from previous generations.

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 16049581)

Long live our Lord and Savior Barak Obama

http://www.blackvaginafinder.com/coo...amakingfn9.jpg

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16050380)

that the idiot vote went to obama.

that it wasn't the smart or successful that voted for him.

that the country truly is run by the majority of morons now.

that you're a member of the proud majority. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16049855)

not true! the obama crowd wants everyone else to pay for what they think they're owed. its quite a shift in mindset from previous generations.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 16050776)

12clunks has done it again.

People voting for the party, man or Government that will them benefit most!!!!!!!!

Where did you come up with that astounding theory?

Stick to porn as politics is not your thing. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 16051142)

So 2% of the stimulus money that's been tracked so far has gone disproportionately to areas that voted for Obama, and from that you draw the conclusion that idiots voted for Obama.

Yeah, you're living proof that it was the "smart" people who voted for McCain.

Get a life man. Bitter much?

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16051514)

Still alive but no brighter, eh loser?

Originally Posted by cybermike (Post 16051537)

The last paragraph you failed to share...

The imbalance didn't start with the stimulus. From 2005 through 2007, the counties that later voted for Obama collected about 50% more government aid than those that supported McCain, according to spending reports from the U.S. Census Bureau. USA TODAY's review did not include Alaska, which does not report its election results by county.

Originally Posted by woj (Post 16051554)

ouch, that's pretty low.. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16049855)

not true! the obama crowd wants everyone else to pay for what they think they're owed. its quite a shift in mindset from previous generations.

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16051657)

No need. It just further makes my point as to who voted fo Obama.
Those with their hand out

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 16051809)

You and your ilk have been saying the same shit about Progressive presidents since Teddy Roosevelt. Then it was FDR, then it was JFK and LBJ.

Your generational argument is utter bullshit and anyone who's ever read a history book knows it. You're just bitter because you lost. Get over it.

This is a democracy, that means that about half of the time, people who disagree with you are going to be in charge. Live with it, or move somewhere else.
I have to foot the bill for your guy's wars and disastrous foreign policy, you can join in and share the pain on my guy's domestic priorities.



Yeah. You vote for the guy who promises to cut your taxes, but it's only out of sheer patriotic selflessness, not self interest of any kind.

Not to mention the fact that you voted to put the train wreck that is Sarah Palin a heartbeat away from the presidency, for a president who would have been 72 on inaguration day, and a former cancer patient to boot.
Yet you have the audacity to call the people who voted for the other guy idiots.

His age and medical history combined with her incompetence bordering on stupidity alone was reason enough to vote for Obama, regardless of what your politics are.

Get a grip.

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16049562)

"Counties that supported Obama last year have reaped twice as much money per person from the administration's $787 billion economic stimulus package as those that voted for his Republican rival, Sen. John McCain, a USA TODAY analysis of government disclosure and accounting records shows."

"Billions of dollars in federal aid delivered directly to the local level to help revive the economy have gone overwhelmingly to places that supported President Obama in last year's presidential election.
That aid ? about $17 billion ? is the first piece of the administration's massive stimulus package that can be tracked locally. Much of it has followed a well-worn path to places that regularly collect a bigger share of federal grants and contracts, guided by formulas that have been in place for decades and leave little room for manipulation."
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kinda blows the idea that the smart are voting for obama.

But then, we kinda knew the rabble vote were voting for their hand out and not for their ideals. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by Rangermoore (Post 16051869)

It's one thing to have the occasional political debate, especially in an election year, and ESPECIALLY if the policy somehow affects our business.....but it seems like half the people on here only exist to cut and paste news stories, or to opine on news stories that others have cut and pasted. :321GFY

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16049855)

not true! the obama crowd wants everyone else to pay for what they think they're owed. its quite a shift in mindset from previous generations.

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16051514)

Still alive but no brighter, eh loser?

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16051523)

No, I draw my conclusions of the Obama crowd from the likes of you, the Obama voter too stupid to see the train wreck coming and not smart enough to survive it.
You mistake my derisive laughter for bitterness, dear rabble:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by gwidomains (Post 16049575)

Clearly you didn't read the whole USA Today piece -- or got it from a second hand source that buried the info:

"Much of [the money] has followed a well-worn path to places that regularly collect a bigger share of federal grants and contracts, guided by formulas that have been in place for decades and leave little room for manipulation?The imbalance didn?t start with the stimulus. From 2005 through 2007, the counties that later voted for Obama collected about 50% more government aid than those that supported McCain, according to spending reports from the U.S. Census Bureau."

Another money quote

"Investigators who track the stimulus are skeptical that political considerations could be at work. The imbalance is so pronounced ? and the aid so far from complete ? that it would be almost inconceivable for it to be the result of political tinkering, says Adam Hughes, the director of federal fiscal policy for the non-profit OMB Watch. "Even if they wanted to, I don't think the administration has enough people in place yet to actually do that," he says"

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...-redblue_N.htm


And everyone industry votes for hand-outs as well why do you think lobbyists and banksters are so well paid.

LOL.

Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 16052691)

Oh noes, can't say anything bad about black Jesus ... god forbid you simpletons wake up from the trance.

So hows owning a failed car company and a whole heap of failed banks working out for you all? Glad its not my tax dollars being thrown around so liberally...

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16049562)

"Counties that supported Obama last year have reaped twice as much money per person from the administration's $787 billion economic stimulus package as those that voted for his Republican rival, Sen. John McCain, a USA TODAY analysis of government disclosure and accounting records shows."

"Billions of dollars in federal aid delivered directly to the local level to help revive the economy have gone overwhelmingly to places that supported President Obama in last year's presidential election.
That aid ? about $17 billion ? is the first piece of the administration's massive stimulus package that can be tracked locally. Much of it has followed a well-worn path to places that regularly collect a bigger share of federal grants and contracts, guided by formulas that have been in place for decades and leave little room for manipulation."
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kinda blows the idea that the smart are voting for obama.

But then, we kinda knew the rabble vote were voting for their hand out and not for their ideals. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 16052763)

Its working out quite well considering more than half the banks have already paid back the govt back the TARP funds. Now stick to issues in your own country you clueless fuck.