XBIZ NEWS: New 3rd-Party Processor Takes Old Name ? iBill
 

XBIZ NEWS: New 3rd-Party Processor Takes Old Name ? iBill

AURORA, Colo. ? The reincarnated iBill is fighting back claims that it has ties to the defunct third-party processor that did business under the same name.

http://www.xbiz.com/news/109571

thanks, we all had no idea

big newz! :thumbsup

Good to see they are trying to be an honest company and take back the brand. But It will be hard to gain trust with that name. That's just my opinion though.

crazy...

are they paying people back?

I was a small time affiliate of theirs and even so lost thousands. I mean, really. If they want to be a good Ibill, pay people back. Simple. A name is a name.

maybe u should read the thread and article before you post.

I'd like to know more about former iBill execs Spaniak and co. Anyone have info?

Scary, why in the world would a company even try to bring that back obviously knowing what they know. Noone with any brains would touch that company with that brand attached to it regardless of who is there pushing forward now. Go ahead and tell investors there is some debt owed to thousands of merchants before we can move forward or change the name. Pay back everyone on what they are owed and then maybe everyone who got ripped off the thousands and thousands of dollars including myself might let you try ;)

As much as IBill fucked everyone.. it IS a cool domain. Like every other company, they will have to prove themselves and earn a reputation starting from scratch. Go!

Brad

ibill, iporn, iphone, ipod ---> cool names

never again got fucked waaay too hard.

But they don't have ibill.com, they have ibill.net.

Who trusts someone on a .net?

:Oh crap

cool xbiz.
thanks for the heads up

Forget the hate and think about it calmly.

When I look at the money held by CCBILL or Epoch every month I think to myself. Do I want that money held by people I don't trust totally?

Anyone willing to risk their money (AND affiliate) with a company run by people capable of making such a big mistake do not warrant my trust.

Dear Jonas Brown/iBill,

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jik6l8S-eg...e+fuck+you.jpg

How about instead, you simply pay me the $30,000+ worth of sales that I made using your billing system.

If you do, I won't even hold you accountable for the lost rebills and other major costs that I incurred because of iBill's lies and incompetence.

If that is asking to much, then at least have the decency to explain who actually took the money I earned (people paid for my product and I delivered it, even though iBill screwed me over), and why they have any right not to pay me the money which they were only the processor for.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there appears to me to have been some major breach of fiduciary responsibility and somebody should be held accountable.

In Laymen's terms, I spent money to build and promote my websites - many people paid money to join my sites, and iBill collected the money on my behalf, and was supposed to forward me the balance after subtracting their fees. Somebody kept the money my Members intended to pay to me, since I paid lots of money, and invested lots of my time, to create and promote the content which they downloaded and enjoyed.

I delivered the product which my Members (customers) paid for, but somebody kept more than just the fees - in my view, they stole my money.

Jonas Brown, before anyone should trust you or iBill, I think that you/iBill should explain where my money is, and the money of many other webmasters is, whom were ripped off the same way I was.

Your proposal as stated comes off as just another totally self-serving scam and con job, like the original ultimately worthless promissory notes.

If you want to do some good, and get people back on your side, then either sue the bastards that ripped us off and get our money back, or tell us who to sue and how to sue the people that took our hard earned money.

Whenever I hear the names Daniel Staton, Steve Markley or Gary Spaniak Jr, all I hear is liar, scammer, thief and other less civil words. :321GFY

Add Marc Bell of the Bell/Staton Group (later PMGI, Penthouse, and AFF / Adult Friend Finder to that list). :action-sm

:mad:

ADG

From the X-Biz article:

O'rly?!? How hard have you tried?

Start here Jonas Brown:

Public Record addresses of some former iBill / PMGI execs

The only way I would take your supposedly new company seriously, is if you would address the issues and questions I posed earlier in this thread.

Or is the new iBill the same as the old iBill - post rosy press releases, but avoid answering any questions?

ADG

Once again this is proof that NOBODY, no matter how big or small, no matter how many MILLIONS of dollars they steal, can flunk out of porn.

There is no starting over, rebuilding or gaining trust when you have fucked over an entire industry on such a large scale like that. Anyone who supports them is a fool, plain and simple.

So is iFucked, iSteal, iScam and iWillFuckYouAgain when you least expect it. :2 cents:

did you ever look into this board before you started that thread?

Pretty old news.
And my answer is still not a chance in Hell.

Maybe old, but lets not forget.

how about i open a security service and call it "Gestapo"?

good idea?

nice idea MaDalton!

I thought it was a joke ... but looks like it's legit. Madness.

Anyone want to invest in a new company I'm starting called Enron, Madoff & Co.?

I wouldn't piss on iBill if they were on fire.

then why use the same tarnished name Ibill? why not start fresh and have no history?

doesn't make any sense

interesting, I don't see why you would use a tarnished name.

but to the issue of using them, hell no. Maybe in a year or two if their track record is clean.

interesting....

thanks for sharing

Good Luck with that.

Let me know how that goes.

hope they fail. ibill screwed many and shouldn't be able to regroup using that name. or even a variation of it. FAIL

my thoughts exactly

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

They keep saying it's the company name, not the people.

If I were them I would have lost the name, fast. The word iBill makes most cringe, they have a lot ahead of them to gain back clients. With the current state of the industry, I don't see many people switching from their processor of years to give iBill another chance.

Why no mention of Rodrigo? I making a great Ibills party next Friday in the Beverly Hills. Everybody, we make a party.

They should of started with a new NAME and kept ibill for mainstream sales.

Yes and iprocessing, idemand. . .all great.

But ibill, not so much, especially in adult.

the only people stupider then the "new" iballs are the poor fucks who are going to let them fuck them again. I cant believe we even so much as discuss that company after all the shit they pulled. I can see many unhappy future threads from people who thought it would be different.

What about the stocks they issued to people to settle up?

Those gonna be worth anything now?

Only a total dumb fuck would use these ibill cunts again.

-N

those wont be worth the paper that they are printed on, seriously.


Would you let me have your purse or wallet a second time if I already stole, misplaced, or handed off to some other guy once?

How about if I give you a piece of paper and told you things would be different this time?

If IBill was really in a position to settle, they would hand out money, not fake stock.

If IBill were a company worthy of our business, they would have never fucked over anyone in the first place.

Beware.:2 cents:

I'd never use them again or anything, people received stocks years ago as a "promise." Just curious now that there is an established iBill again, those that have shares, any chance of getting anything for the "promise?"

Be nice to see those who have it get something that was promised to them by company who stole their money.

They will never be trusted by us

To pick that name is death from the start!

I WILL NEVER SEND THEM 1 OUNCE OF MY TRAFFIC.

they think we will ignore the name

Acacia thought we were 'low hanging fruit'

amazing the lack of insight these people show


spaz

fuck you ibill

I actually was kinda expecting the "new" Ibill site to turn out to be a practical joke.

Shit remember when Sixnine walked into thier booth and demanded his money at one of the last shows they attended?

He told them to write him a check and then started dismantling their booth until they finally did..

?If we get a booth, I might have to bring a bulletproof vest,? he said.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I agree, kristin. I think if ibill has enough cash to go back into business, then they need to start paying out what they owe to the webmasters they owe it to. In fact, if they had any fucking respect for this industry, they would have been sending out payments owed before they even attempted this.

For the record: I am owed nothing by ibill, but this situation is so obvious it kills me.


Some people are still going to trust these guys.

Fool me once ibill....shame on you.
Fool me twice ibill........ i'm a fucking moron.


"Its the people not the name" :1orglaugh

its both, anyone can see that.