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Nicky 07-02-2009 07:17 PM

Finally my mainstream earnings past 50% of adult
 
1 more year and it will be over 100% I'm sure. :)

Bridgette 07-02-2009 07:18 PM

Hey, congratulations! That's great news. :)

EscortBiz 07-02-2009 07:19 PM

serious congrats as mainstream in 5000% harder to generate cash than adult

Nicky 07-02-2009 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bridgette (Post 16025543)
Hey, congratulations! That's great news. :)

Yea, in a year I might make the same in mainstream that the $50 a month my GFY sig makes me :pimp:pimp

Nicky 07-02-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16025544)
serious congrats as mainstream in 5000% harder to generate cash than adult

I totally disagree. btw this is not affiliate mainstream work. It's buying and selling hard good's online.

EscortBiz 07-02-2009 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 16025549)
I totally disagree.

no clue about buying and selling hard goods etc when it comes to affiliate mainstream vs affiliate adult only someone who is dreaming will tell you mainstream is easier, dont care if you area SEO expert or a viral video expert or whatever the heck you will tell me, the dreamers who havent dont mainstream aff work all think its easier

Nicky 07-02-2009 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16025556)
no clue about buying and selling hard goods etc when it comes to affiliate mainstream vs affiliate adult only someone who is dreaming will tell you mainstream is easier, dont care if you area SEO expert or a viral video expert or whatever the heck you will tell me, the dreamers who havent dont mainstream aff work all think its easier

Well I aint one of em. I do virtually 0 mainstream SEO work. I keep that shit to the adult side so I'm with you there.

Nicky 07-02-2009 07:32 PM

jolly jolly, I'm gonna celebrate with 2 glasses of water and a long good sleep. Just got home from the club's.

jollyperv 07-02-2009 07:40 PM

Been trying to break in to mainstream for a few months, did a good hunk of article marketing and have not made a dime yet.

Sosa 07-02-2009 07:50 PM

congrats :)

d-null 07-02-2009 07:53 PM

ctr seems to be dropping in mainstream, the future looks tough as more and more users become adblind and simply throwing up adsense ads is not going to cut it anymore

EscortBiz 07-02-2009 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jollyperv (Post 16025581)
Been trying to break in to mainstream for a few months, did a good hunk of article marketing and have not made a dime yet.

thats what 99.99999% experience

EscortBiz 07-02-2009 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 16025608)
ctr seems to be dropping in mainstream, the future looks tough as more and more users become adblind and simply throwing up adsense ads is not going to cut it anymore

yup, it will become a world that you have to make product or services so unique and cool and rely on word of mouth

Pornwolf 07-03-2009 12:30 AM

I dunno EB. I'd say mainstream is easier now but, unlike about 4 years ago, it's no longer the same principles as adult when it comes to driving traffic.

The thing about mainstream is that there's so many more places and ways to get and keep lots of traffic now than ever before. It's insane.

niche25 07-03-2009 12:34 AM

Congrats!! I've always spread myself across adult & mainstream and I like it that way. Keeps me sharp since I get to learn from both sides. IMHO adult has always been bleeding edge. ;)

voa 07-03-2009 01:56 AM

Good for you hope you will get more

mikesinner 07-03-2009 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 16025549)
I totally disagree. btw this is not affiliate mainstream work. It's buying and selling hard good's online.

what goods?

Jdoughs 07-03-2009 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jollyperv (Post 16025581)
Been trying to break in to mainstream for a few months, did a good hunk of article marketing and have not made a dime yet.

Thats like trying to break into adult doing $1.50 blog posts.

No wonder you aren't having any luck.

Machete_ 07-03-2009 02:12 AM

The reason adult webmasters fail with mainstream sites, is often because they aproach it the same way as Adult.

My overall eCPM for Mainstream is around $1-1.10
The best adult I have done so far is around $0.40-0.45 - but average is around $0.30

CyberHustler 07-03-2009 02:13 AM

Congrats bro...

bobby666 07-03-2009 04:00 AM

i never really started in mainstraim...maybe i should give it a try

Jakke PNG 07-03-2009 04:04 AM

I just got my first adsense wire (for 18 months...). A whooping $270. All organic traffic though, and to just 2 sites I have.. lol. Now just to do 10000 more sites like that and I'm golden.

Manowar 07-03-2009 04:11 AM

Congratulations dude

EscortBiz 07-03-2009 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakke PNG (Post 16026380)
I just got my first adsense wire (for 18 months...). A whooping $270. All organic traffic though, and to just 2 sites I have.. lol. Now just to do 10000 more sites like that and I'm golden.

you find one tiny ad that works that u go and place it in over 7000 classified newspapers

http://www.3miles.com/lapre_sites/bl.../lapre_don.jpg

gideongallery 07-03-2009 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16025544)
serious congrats as mainstream in 5000% harder to generate cash than adult

how so
tube views sell for like 15 cents per view in mainstream
in adult you would be luck to get 0.2 cents per view

i find it way easier to make money in mainstream, doing the same seo, optmization stuff.

EscortBiz 07-03-2009 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 16026419)
how so
tube views sell for like 15 cents per view in mainstream
in adult you would be luck to get 0.2 cents per view

i find it way easier to make money in mainstream, doing the same seo, optmization stuff.

no clue what you mean by tube views and its ok most here walk around saying mainstream this mainstream that simply because they lucked out and sold one ebook

as far as why adult sells for cheaper well explain this if you have a porn site that makes 100k net a month you are lucky to get 100kX 6 8 months yet in mainstream youd be able to sell easy for X30months

why does a full page color ad in a porn magazine that reaches 200k people cost 2000 bucks and in a mainstream magazine about 40,000

has nothing to do with who makes more, remember most mainstream companies will spend stupid money on non trackable ads too

so yeah most guys making cash online like huge sums of it (like google) i guess are busy selling mainstream companies ads

selling product itself is not easy at all digital or hard goods

to get 250000 hits to a porn site is easy to get 250000 hits to mainstream is almost impossible

like i said people who are not involved in mainstream talk lots of bullshit, they basically talk about what they think based on their desktop calculator

Jakke PNG 07-03-2009 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16026425)
has nothing to do with who makes more, remember most mainstream companies will spend stupid money on non trackable ads too

I think "we" the internet-generation are spoiled in that sense, we're used to having very very detailed trafficstatistics. I bought a month-long nationwide TV-ad spot in 2007 for an online store of mine, and even though I could tell sales increased 'a lot', I had no way of tracking whether the sales came from the campaign or some other source (as the store doesn't have 'steady' traffic but can jump up and down quite a lot from month to month).

I *HATE* that.. no matter where I get my ads from, I always make sure I can set campaign-tracking etc so I know where the traffic comes from, and whether I'm making any money off it..

Now the 'fad' in Finland are these 'online telephonebooks', and my company gets around 3-5 calls per week from these catalogs and want me to spend ?100-?2000/year or so to be listed there. I'm sure a lot of the smaller, older, companies who are not used to the way Internet works are going to fall for this scam, over and over again without getting "anything" in return. It's not really even a scam, since they DO have the listings online etc..but maybe send 1 hit/year. I bought one such spot 2 years ago from the company that has the biggest print-telephone book in Finland, and I got a total of 200 hits for my ?800/year.

Now..this is a bit off topic and rambling, but I just figured I must chime in and say how much I HATE (non-free) trafficsources that I can't track. heh. :)

Nicky 07-03-2009 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 16026214)
what goods?

Jack of all trades. Brand clothes, neon stuff, bar stuff and a few more things.

gideongallery 07-03-2009 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16026425)
no clue what you mean by tube views and its ok most here walk around saying mainstream this mainstream that simply because they lucked out and sold one ebook

as far as why adult sells for cheaper well explain this if you have a porn site that makes 100k net a month you are lucky to get 100kX 6 8 months yet in mainstream youd be able to sell easy for X30months

why does a full page color ad in a porn magazine that reaches 200k people cost 2000 bucks and in a mainstream magazine about 40,000

has nothing to do with who makes more, remember most mainstream companies will spend stupid money on non trackable ads too

so yeah most guys making cash online like huge sums of it (like google) i guess are busy selling mainstream companies ads

selling product itself is not easy at all digital or hard goods

to get 250000 hits to a porn site is easy to get 250000 hits to mainstream is almost impossible

like i said people who are not involved in mainstream talk lots of bullshit, they basically talk about what they think based on their desktop calculator

optimize the title on a porn video so that it get picked up by the search engine and spikes to 50k views in the first 4 days and you have a hard time finding people who would pay you for that service

do the same thing for an independent musician trying to build a fanbase on youtube and you will have tons of people beating down your door.

The skill set is exactly the same, keyword identification, permutation stacking, density analysis.

you will get paid a lot more to do the exact same thing.


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