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Carmine Raguso 06-22-2009 10:43 AM

So now Boneprone is usinf stolen content on his sites? WTF?
 
http://www.socalmovies.com/

Who cares that you are scraping the tubes. Full length movies? Tsk tsk.

crockett 06-22-2009 10:47 AM

All the cool kids are doing it these days..

JFK 06-22-2009 12:07 PM

No BP yet ?:pimp

notime 06-22-2009 12:13 PM

Bing.com ?

James124 06-22-2009 12:20 PM

oh lol...

the Shemp 06-22-2009 12:22 PM

thats a good looking site...

Agent 488 06-22-2009 12:24 PM

i am cooking a chicken burger right now.

Zyzz 06-22-2009 12:24 PM

nice pronz :error similar to badjojo...

Agent 488 06-22-2009 12:33 PM

that's what happens when you let the anal hobbit take over content management for your site.

BradM 06-22-2009 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 15986642)
i am cooking a chicken burger right now.

that sounds really good right now

Juilan 06-22-2009 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime (Post 15986588)
Bing.com ?

indeed, Bing.com is the new destroyer.

CaptainHowdy 06-22-2009 12:52 PM

He is always saying "I fucked it" and you never saw that one coming?? :P!

Nicky 06-22-2009 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freestyler (Post 15986644)
nice pronz :error similar to badjojo...

freestyler, Isn't that Fris's loaded cash screenshot in your sig?

gideongallery 06-22-2009 02:22 PM

http://www.thehollywoodnews.com/artm.../1/TripleH.jpg

don't hate the player hate the game

or better yet don't hate anyone embrace the game

halfpint 06-22-2009 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 15987135)

Id hit it

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-22-2009 02:38 PM

Sadly he links to the sites the video is on instead of embeding it...

alias 06-22-2009 02:41 PM

Let me be the first to say, who cares?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-22-2009 04:34 PM

http://www.motifake.com/demotivation...1221161783.jpg

ADG

IllTestYourGirls 06-22-2009 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 15987189)
Sadly he links to the sites the video is on instead of embeding it...

I thought you were joking at first. :Oh crap Why lose all that traffic?

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-22-2009 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 15987575)
I thought you were joking at first. :Oh crap Why lose all that traffic?

To save some face?

AtlantisCash 06-22-2009 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 15986676)
that's what happens when you let the anal hobbit take over content management for your site.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

seeandsee 06-22-2009 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmine Raguso (Post 15986227)
http://www.socalmovies.com/

Who cares that you are scraping the tubes. Full length movies? Tsk tsk.

We list all TUBE videos from these popular sites

jesus fuck

the Shemp 06-22-2009 05:31 PM

i checked that site out..
its kind of a "bastard" tube..
as its skims some clicks off to trades rather than to the vids...

FilthyRob 06-22-2009 09:58 PM

So if a person makes a real legal tube site, will they be mocked for doing the right thing as well. Since, all the cool kids are doing it, will that mean the right way is the 'Nerd' thing to do?

Marshal 06-23-2009 04:43 AM

btw, that msn popup looks like crap in firefox... :)

bns666 06-23-2009 05:51 AM

what would anal hobbit do?

tranza 06-23-2009 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juilan (Post 15986700)
indeed, Bing.com is the new destroyer.

:thumbsup:1orglaugh

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-23-2009 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FilthyRob (Post 15988183)
So if a person makes a real legal tube site, will they be mocked for doing the right thing as well. Since, all the cool kids are doing it, will that mean the right way is the 'Nerd' thing to do?

No matter what kind of tube you make, you'll get hated on...

Make a legal tube, they say you're just half assing it using sponsor content and won't gain any traction or get any significant traffic.

Make an illegal tube, and get blasted for having full length stolen content.

amacontent 06-23-2009 09:32 AM

I see my videos on this site that I do not believe ive given rights to this. Umm i expect owner of this site to contact me asap

Webmaster Army 06-23-2009 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 15989337)
I see my videos on this site that I do not believe ive given rights to this. Umm i expect owner of this site to contact me asap

They use a thumbnail and link to the site the video is actually on. I know your content is all over tube sites, no idea if they licensed or not...

amacontent 06-23-2009 09:39 AM

? B P 4 L FAMILY MEDIA INC. 2003, All Rights Reserved..
All Links are of models over the age of 18, and are provided to us for promotional use only by indvidual creators and owners of the indvudual sites.
Only with their authorization we have been allowed to use images from their promotional areas to Present here.
We do not own or produce any images presented within this website. For any inquires reguarding content please contact the indvidual site being promoted.


I am the individual creator of alot of these videos and I did not give these you you. I also did not give anyone permission to give away full videos to anyone. Ill expect an ICQ to discuss compensation at your convenience but soon.

amacontent 06-23-2009 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webmaster Army (Post 15989354)
They use a thumbnail and link to the site the video is actually on. I know your content is all over tube sites, no idea if they licensed or not...


Am i out of line here, thumbnail or 2 hours of video, content is not licensed to this site.
If im wrong, I apologize here.

Martin 06-23-2009 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 15987649)
i checked that site out..
its kind of a "bastard" tube..
as its skims some clicks off to trades rather than to the vids...

All the old CJ sites look like tubes now.

Martin 06-23-2009 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 15989370)
Am i out of line here, thumbnail or 2 hours of video, content is not licensed to this site.
If im wrong, I apologize here.

I guess you didn't fully understand tube sites before you started selling your content to them?

Webmaster Army 06-23-2009 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 15989370)
Am i out of line here, thumbnail or 2 hours of video, content is not licensed to this site.
If im wrong, I apologize here.

I was just pointing out that the videos aren't on his site. Whether or not the sites he scraped to get them licensed your vids, only you would know. As for the thumbnail, it might be hard to win that one as fair use would seem a pretty valid claim on a tiny thumb. This is especially true when bing is letting people preview the entire videos.

boneprone 06-23-2009 10:52 AM

AMA.
I dont host or have the actual movies on my site other than fhgs or movies given to me by owners.. I simply link to tubesite pages or use their embed feature.

If you see some content on the site of yours being linked to let me know. I would be more than happy in removing it from my site and helping you determine where it came from.

If you sell content to tubesites then really there is nothing more I can do on my end but remove the link to them.

halfpint 06-23-2009 11:00 AM

Using a thumbnail from another tube is known as plugs to generate traffic. You send them traffic by using a thumbnail from their site and link it to the vid, they do the same back, Its the way tubes work.

boneprone 06-23-2009 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 15989636)
Using a thumbnail from another tube is known as plugs to generate traffic. You send them traffic by using a thumbnail from their site and link it to the vid, they do the same back, Its the way tubes work.


Yes. However if he owns the video then he also owns the rights to the image and the thumb.
(Thus I am willing to work with him and willing to remove the thumb and even the link if he likes. Yes I dont really have to remove the link to the other tubesite but I will without issue if he requests it.

I have respect for his work and his place in this community. Lets not attack him for trying to protect his work.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-23-2009 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 15989636)
Using a thumbnail from another tube is known as plugs to generate traffic. You send them traffic by using a thumbnail from their site and link it to the vid, they do the same back, Its the way tubes work.

You're confused my friend, that's how dumps work. Tubes rely on everyone embeding their videos sending them traffic.

boneprone 06-23-2009 11:09 AM

I think you two are arguing the same point really.

Either way AMA feel free to contact me. Let me know what video, I can give you all the info you need plus removal from my site.
If its an embed then I can kill the page. If its a direct link to the other persons website I can give you their info and remove the link..

icq 66883099

crockett 06-23-2009 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 15989055)
No matter what kind of tube you make, you'll get hated on...

Make a legal tube, they say you're just half assing it using sponsor content and won't gain any traction or get any significant traffic.

Make an illegal tube, and get blasted for having full length stolen content.

Yea damn the haters I mean it's the internets.. You have the right to steal anything you want and damn them if they hate on you.

You make a living writing code right? Would you hate on us if we stole all your code and put it on websites all over the net so for everyone else to D/L it for free?

halfpint 06-23-2009 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 15989657)
Yes. However if he owns the video then he also owns the rights to the image and the thumb.
(Thus I am willing to work with him and willing to remove the thumb and even the link if he likes. Yes I dont really have to remove the link to the other tubesite but I will without issue if he requests it.

I have respect for his work and his place in this community. Lets not attack him for trying to protect his work.

Right on. What I was trying to say is that it is imposible to know if the content on the other tube has been purchased or not when you link to it . I am in no way knocking Amacontent at all, and kudus to you for working with him.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-23-2009 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 15989679)
Yea damn the haters I mean it's the internets.. You have the right to steal anything you want and damn them if they hate on you.

You make a living writing code right? Would you hate on us if we stole all your code and put it on websites all over the net so for everyone else to D/L it for free?

Take off your warrior outfit and re read my post. I didn't say I approve of stolen content, I just said you're damned it you don't and damned if you do.

No matter what, the people here blast you for running any type of tube.

amacontent 06-23-2009 12:12 PM

Thnks for response BP, im a little wet behind the ears on marketing ploys but ill hit you up later when im done shooting. Im just tiredof finding my stuff all over the place free

Paolo 06-23-2009 12:31 PM

Lets not fool anyone here.

Everyone knows that there is almost no licencing on those sites and a really good chance that almost all those videos were stolen for the purpose of gaining traffic. All the free loaders out there visit and that gets these sites a good Alexa ranking so they can get good advertizing money.

That's no secret...

Come on here.. No one is uploading to these sites except the people who are running them.

The purpose of these sites that host the 12 minute movies to to get high Alexa rankings to sell ad space..

They are the biggest cheats in the world.. You should never link to these guys like xhamster and and the rest.

Keeping it Real 06-23-2009 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 15989862)
Thnks for response BP, im a little wet behind the ears on marketing ploys but ill hit you up later when im done shooting. Im just tiredof finding my stuff all over the place free

It's not marketing ploys it's theft. Pure and simple. Why show any respect from somebody who steals from you?

boneprone 06-23-2009 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keeping it Real (Post 15989971)
It's not marketing ploys it's theft. Pure and simple. Why show any respect from somebody who steals from you?

IM not stealing from him.
Im stealing from the people who steal from him. Unless that is he sells to them in which case I am not.

I can help him get in touch with and get his stuff removed better than most people if he WANTS and I can help him understand how its all taking place. More importantly so I can more than likely get his content sold for him if these people are indeed stealing it. (which i hope they are not doing)

Yeah the whole situation sucks but for those willing there is a lot of money in it as well. At the very least I can get his shit taken down for him or get him in contact with the proper people. My network of people in all aspects of the biz is still very deep.

If someone is stealing from him I can help him get it taken down, or if he chooses get stuff sold $$$.. No cut in my part.

I dont want to see his shit getting stolen anymore than the rest of you.
The tube guys can afford to buy his shit this day in age.

boneprone 06-23-2009 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paolo (Post 15989935)
Lets not fool anyone here.

Everyone knows that there is almost no licencing on those sites and a really good chance that almost all those videos were stolen for the purpose of gaining traffic. All the free loaders out there visit and that gets these sites a good Alexa ranking so they can get good advertizing money.

That's no secret...

Come on here.. No one is uploading to these sites except the people who are running them.

The purpose of these sites that host the 12 minute movies to to get high Alexa rankings to sell ad space..

They are the biggest cheats in the world.. You should never link to these guys like xhamster and and the rest.

If I find out xhamster is stealing content or unresponsive to removing anyone's content upon request I will indeed remove them from any traffic I send to them. Again, if anyone sees anything on my sites Ill do the best I can to assist you in getting it removed, getting in contact with the owners of the site, and if it comes to it blacklisting traffic sent to them if indeed they are unresponsive to your requests.

collegeboobies 06-23-2009 01:22 PM

crazy days

notime 06-23-2009 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paolo (Post 15989935)
Lets not fool anyone here.

Everyone knows that there is almost no licencing on those sites and a really good chance that almost all those videos were stolen for the purpose of gaining traffic. All the free loaders out there visit and that gets these sites a good Alexa ranking so they can get good advertizing money.

That's no secret...

Come on here.. No one is uploading to these sites except the people who are running them.

The purpose of these sites that host the 12 minute movies to to get high Alexa rankings to sell ad space..

One day they'll turn around, if not so already. It takes 2 to tango or content WILL dry up. The rest just copycats the new/old school sucess stories but forget about the laywers, accountants, fiscal advisors, notary and even business a whole in the end.
Many (not all) studios/producers started out the same way in this bizz many years ago
doing stuff that was not proper and some faded out and some even went IPO or got bought by other big companies. Same stuff for 22 years but just packaged differently IMO.


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