Windows 7 will ship without IE in Europe
 

http://news.BBC.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8096701.stm

"the company said it would make it easy for users to get at and install the web browsing program"

LOL !! But I bet onceinstalled it'll still be as difficult to uninstall as it is today ...

hey i hit you up on ICQ yesterday

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What browser WILL it have? I mean...
you buy a computer.
you want to get online with it.
ruh roh, no browser?
..ohh..gotta install the IE from the windows disc to get online to get another browser?
Maybe I'm dumb, but I don't get it.

How long do you think it will be before the average user comes across an application that requires IE (and all of its tentacles stuck into the OS) to function?

microsoft started to think about users ;)))

fucking hate the built in IE8 (in Windows 7)

how to install an internet browser without inter browser?

Microsoft should play a cruel joke on Europe. Don't pre-install any www browsers.

Instead, pre-install telnet with text instructions on how to download Mosaic world wide web browser.

I don't have a problem with them including their browser but you should easily and completely be able to remove it.

This is utterly fucking stupid. My laptop thankfully came with IE - so I could go online and install FF. Selling a computer or OS without an browser is like selling a car without tires, and then telling people that they can install their own tires at home.

I kind of doubt that Windows 7 will have Winsock 1 support. Perhaps, uh, Netscape 4.7. Or, OffByOne. That almost does HTML 3.2!

Internet Explorer sucked anyway

i bet those's pc's will come with bunch of preinstalled browsers with bunch of toolbars taking half the screen..heh

to play a cruel joke on Europe MS should charge XX euros for a standalone IE version)
Euro version of windows will come under "whoisyourdaddy" release name

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great :)

Gotta love the European govt model ....

I don't know why Microsoft gets so much grief for including their web browser. It is their fucking OS, right?

The only time I've opened IE in the last 4 years was to use it download Firefox when I do a new build. The choice is there for any dumbass to make.

Yep, next they'll be telling M$ "IE8 is too much competition for Firefox, make it worse".

yea, no kidding... :1orglaugh

a good analysis of Microsoft's announcement can be found here

an excerpt from the end

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No you are correct ;)

Does the EU make Apple take out Safari on Macs? Of course the answer is no. Why the hypocrisy?

A) As far as I know you've ALWAYS been able to remove IE form your computer.

B) If someone doesn't want to use IE then don't use it. Pretty simple.

C) I'm not sure this is seen as "more fair". So MS can't include IE with it's OS but the computer maufacturers can put any other browser on there they want. How is it fair that every other browser EXCEPT IE can be included? Talk about anti-competitive the EU is trying to manipulate the browser market by basically shutting out IE. If FF or the other browsers are so much better than IE then people will use them and download them. If the Euros can download movies of girls getting shit on and guys fucking horses then they can download FireFox, Opera, Chrome, Safari or whatever.

lynx FTW!!!

Maybe in the days of Windows 98, but it's a part of the system now. After some trojan issues I tried to remove it from my wife's XP comp and the only way is to fool around with manually deleting files and editing the registry. I chose to upgrade to a newer IE. (She doesn't actively use it but some programs occasionally open IE)

See above. Even though IE is not set as the default browser it is opened by some applications. There's also bits of IE functionality that show up in other parts of the OS... removing IE would probably break that...