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TheSenator 06-11-2009 04:16 PM

Does Google Penalize If You Re-Direct Your Mobile Traffic?
 
Does Google Penalize If You Re-Direct Your Mobile Traffic?


Does anybody know this?

I am currently experimenting with one of my blogs but it has only been a week. I wonder if I get penalized by Google if I re-direct. I should know in a few months.

Choker 06-11-2009 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 15950504)
Does Google Penalize If You Re-Direct Your Mobile Traffic?


Does anybody know this?

I am currently experimenting with one of my blogs but it has only been a week. I wonder if I get penalized by Google if I re-direct. I should know in a few months.

Good fucking question. This could change things a lot if they do

wargames 06-11-2009 04:28 PM

We did a redirect of our mobile traffic about a month ago for a couple of days we went from 2nd page to 3rd page for a big keyword. We took off the redirect and it climbed back to its normal spot a couple weeks later. :Oh crap

TheSenator 06-11-2009 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wargames (Post 15950537)
We did a redirect of our mobile traffic about a month ago for a couple of days we went from 2nd page to 3rd page for a big keyword. We took off the redirect and it climbed back to its normal spot a couple weeks later. :Oh crap

Ugg....

There has to be a way around this

GTS Mark 06-11-2009 04:46 PM

We haven't seen any issues this far doing it in the manner we're currently doing it. However I have heard some horror stories from site owners that are redirecting traffic to some of our competitors.

Titan 06-11-2009 04:59 PM

We have been doing this for a while and I haven't seen any difference. If you have a teen tgp, blog, tube etc. I would redirect the traffic to a teen cash site.

bdld 06-11-2009 05:31 PM

redirect your mobile traffic to a mobile version of your site instead of direct to a sponsor.

GTS Mark 06-11-2009 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdld (Post 15950714)
redirect your mobile traffic to a mobile version of your site instead of direct to a sponsor.

quoted for truth

WiredGuy 06-11-2009 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdld (Post 15950714)
redirect your mobile traffic to a mobile version of your site instead of direct to a sponsor.

Bingo... these days search engines don't like many forms of redirection that its better to keep them on a mobile version of your site.
WG

TheSenator 06-11-2009 07:59 PM

What is a good mobile plugin for Wordpress?

TTiger 06-11-2009 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 15951161)
What is a good mobile plugin for Wordpress?

some good stuff here:)
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=WordPress+mobile

Iron Fist 06-11-2009 10:08 PM

search engines don't like redirects to offsite locations.

TheSenator 06-11-2009 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTiger (Post 15951395)

I'm talking about experience....

nice try

TheSenator 06-11-2009 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 15951409)
search engines don't like redirects to offsite locations.

Basically, I don't wanna kill my traffic with Google for a few thousand dollars with mobile.


I am removing my re-directs and going with the best solution for wordpress mobile.


Also, I am look for sponsors who can carry my affiliate ID over to there mobile site for credit.

Renegade Jeff 06-11-2009 11:26 PM

Try using a mobile ID script (like ours) to simply render a unique banner or link for mobile surfers. You don't necessarily need to redirect them without first landing a hit on your own page. We have one affiliate who uses a modified version of our redirection script to render mobile specific banners to mobile users in his iFrames across an entire ad network.

spacedog 06-11-2009 11:58 PM

google does not penalize you for mobile redirects as long as you tell google that the url redirected to is the mobile version of your website.

place this in your header.

Code:

<link rel="alternate" media="handheld" href="http://theredirectedurl.com" />
This tells google that the redirected url is the MOBILE VERSION. You will not be penalized. Google specifically tells you to do this. This also tells google that visits from their mobile search engine shall send visitors to the url specified rather than the url listed in the results.

IE: yourfuckingdomain.com is in the results for "This Keyword", however, when user clicks it, google sends them to redirecturl.com because you told google to do so.

spacedog 06-12-2009 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renegade Jeff (Post 15951564)
Try using a mobile ID script (like ours) to simply render a unique banner or link for mobile surfers. You don't necessarily need to redirect them without first landing a hit on your own page. We have one affiliate who uses a modified version of our redirection script to render mobile specific banners to mobile users in his iFrames across an entire ad network.

:1orglaugh Wow.. He's not a smart one..

Motorola mobile browser doesn?t support IFrames
OpenWave doesn?t support IFrames
BlackBerry 8700 running a 4.2.1 firmware does not support IFrames.
BlackBerry 8830 running a 4.2.2 firmware also does not support IFrames
Opera Mobile 8.5 does not support IFrames

and a shitload of others do not support iframes.

pretty much limits it to IEMobile and iPhone.

RevShare it! 06-12-2009 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 15951623)
google does not penalize you for mobile redirects as long as you tell google that the url redirected to is the mobile version of your website.

place this in your header.

Code:

<link rel="alternate" media="handheld" href="http://theredirectedurl.com" />
This tells google that the redirected url is the MOBILE VERSION. You will not be penalized. Google specifically tells you to do this. This also tells google that visits from their mobile search engine shall send visitors to the url specified rather than the url listed in the results.

IE: yourfuckingdomain.com is in the results for "This Keyword", however, when user clicks it, google sends them to redirecturl.com because you told google to do so.

Good info :thumbsup

I will also add that on our own sites we have not seen any changes using our redirect nor heard anything from any affiliates using our redirect.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 15951531)
Also, I am look for sponsors who can carry my affiliate ID over to there mobile site for credit.

Checkout http://www.RevShareit.com

Jack Sparrow 06-12-2009 02:07 AM

Heard the same story more then once.
The way around would be to setup a mobile version ON your domain, redirect it there.
White.

CaptainWolfy 06-12-2009 02:13 AM

you should be just fine if you use this at the end of your redirect script:
if($mobile_browser)
{
header('Cache-Control: no-transform');
header('Vary: User-Agent, Accept');
header("robots:noindex,nofollow");
header('Location: '.$mobile_link);
exit;
}

Agent 488 06-12-2009 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 15951623)
Google specifically tells you to do this.

link?




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TheDoc 06-12-2009 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 15951623)
google does not penalize you for mobile redirects as long as you tell google that the url redirected to is the mobile version of your website.

place this in your header.

Code:

<link rel="alternate" media="handheld" href="http://theredirectedurl.com" />
This tells google that the redirected url is the MOBILE VERSION. You will not be penalized. Google specifically tells you to do this. This also tells google that visits from their mobile search engine shall send visitors to the url specified rather than the url listed in the results.

IE: yourfuckingdomain.com is in the results for "This Keyword", however, when user clicks it, google sends them to redirecturl.com because you told google to do so.



http://www.google.com/support/webmas...n&answer=35312

How does Google modify web pages for mobile viewing?
Print

Google Web Search on mobile phones allows users to search all the content in the Google index for desktop web browsers. Because this content isn't written specifically for mobile phones and devices and thus might not display properly, web search results are viewed through our transcoder, which analyzes the original HTML code and converts it to a mobile-ready format. To ensure that the highest quality and most useable web page is displayed on your mobile phone or device, Google may resize, adjust, or convert images, text formatting and/or certain aspects of web page functionality.

If you do not want Google to transcode your web page, you may request that Google redirect the user to an alternate page whenever the user attempts to view the page through the transcoder. You can do so by including the following line in the <HEAD> section of the HTML file for your page:

<link rel="alternate" media="handheld" href="alternate_page.htm" />

The alternate page should be a mobile-optimized version of the original page or a message informing the user that the site is not available on the phone.

Agent 488 06-12-2009 06:52 AM

ok thanks.

FrozenJag 06-12-2009 06:56 AM

If you do redirect i reccomend using no follow. Although I wouldnt reccomend redirecting whatsoever if your a big se baller.

Instead display ad if its mobile user, and no ad displays if its not. (Like good size ad right under the header).

Good luck.

seeandsee 06-12-2009 07:02 AM

finally good question to see on gfy!

Allison 06-12-2009 08:23 AM

TopBucks/PinkVisual has been around in the mobile game for a while (since 2007). Redirecting to another domain can be damaging if you have a good natural search engine listing. However, from keeping it on your domain or subdomain we see that there is no impact.

We offer whitelabels for mobile solutions that we handle fully on our end, that keep the traffic on your domain and don't put your natural search engine listings at risk.

TopBucks will be making some big announcements soon about mobile to webmasters, but we're already handling webmaster traffic for mobile successfully.

Contact me or any of our staff and we'll take care of creating a whitelabel of your site, customized AND optimized for mobile.

~Alli

tetsuo001100 06-12-2009 08:44 AM

but what about redirecting your traffic via javascript? to my understanding google/search engines in general disregard javascript and just view your page itself. if they're not rendering the javascript then it's not redirecting for google, right?

fuzebox 06-16-2009 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tetsuo001100 (Post 15952574)
but what about redirecting your traffic via javascript? to my understanding google/search engines in general disregard javascript and just view your page itself. if they're not rendering the javascript then it's not redirecting for google, right?

I know it's been a few days, but bump to get some more input on this. It's been my understanding that google won't penalize the javascript redirects as well.

fuzebox 06-18-2009 09:22 AM

bump because I liked this discussion.

daemonx 07-05-2009 07:35 AM

I played with it for about a month on one of my TGPs which has pretty decent traffic from Google. At first I tried redirecting directly to a sponsors site. In a few days my Google traffic was down by 80%. The traffic picked up once I removed the redirect.

Then I created a mobile landing page on a sub domain and kept redirecting to the landing page for about 2 weeks with no changes in SE traffic. Now I'm using a white label created by TopBucks on a sub domain of one of my sites and am happy with the results. Gonna get the guys create mobile white labels for all of my sites now.


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