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Single Payer Health Care and USA

A lot of people are mis-informed about single payer health care. Here is a quick overview.

http://www.pnhp.org/facts/what_is_single_payer.php

What is Single Payer?

Single-payer is a term used to describe a type of financing system. It refers to one entity acting as administrator, or ?payer.? In the case of health care, a single-payer system would be setup such that one entity?a government run organization?would collect all health care fees, and pay out all health care costs. In the current US system, there are literally tens of thousands of different health care organizations?HMOs, billing agencies, etc. By having so many different payers of health care fees, there is an enormous amount of administrative waste generated in the system. (Just imagine how complex billing must be in a doctor?s office, when each insurance company requires a different form to be completed, has a different billing system, different billing contacts and phone numbers?it?s very confusing.) In a single-payer system, all hospitals, doctors, and other health care providers would bill one entity for their services. This alone reduces administrative waste greatly, and saves money, which can be used to provide care and insurance to those who currently don?t have it.

Good by anti trust. Cant break of the government from fucking anyone in the ass.

Here is some more information about Single Payer Healthcare systems:

United Kingdom - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...partments.html

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An investigation by The Sunday Telegraph has found that thousands of 999 patients are being left to wait in ambulances in car parks and holding bays, or in hospital corridors ? in some cases for more than five hours ? before they can even join the queue for urgent treatment.

Experts warn that hospitals are deliberately delaying when they accept patients ? or are diverting them to different sites ? in order to meet Government targets to treat people within fours hours of admitting them..........

During a six-week period last autumn, hospital chiefs in the north east of England closed casualty units to 999 arrivals on 34 occasions, for up to 19 hours at a time.

Internal documents from the London Ambulance Service reports of extensive delays throughout December: "Ambulances have queued in large numbers for up to five hours to unload, and two hour delays were relatively common," it says.

The briefing note, written in January, says hospitals were so short-staffed that ambulance staff were regularly forced to look after multiple patients simultaneously, so that colleagues could respond to 999 calls.

Delays to patients arriving to A&E by ambulance are increasing in many parts of the country as hospitals struggle to cope with a massive increase in the number of emergency hospital admissions since family doctors stopped providing routine out-of-hours care.

Canada - http://www2.canada.com/montrealgazet...6-08f72843109c

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As La Presse reported this week, the average time Quebec's old and sick spend waiting in emergency rooms for admission or release rose once again last year, reaching 17.1 hours. That's a far cry from the 12 hours the government set as an objective three years ago, and the trend is heading in the wrong direction.

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 15917762)

In the current US system, there are literally tens of thousands of different health care organizations?HMOs, billing agencies, etc. By having so many different payers of health care fees, there is an enormous amount of administrative waste generated in the system.

You think that handing those administrative functions to GOVERNMENT WORKERS is going to help?

LOL

All you're doing is adding an extra layer of bureaucracy on top of the existing bureaucracy.

TERRIBLE idea.

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye (Post 15918084)

If we can trust the government to run a war, why can't we trust the government to run health care?

Our system is program...a fix is needed....Single payer is the fix...Medicare for all.

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 15918199)

If we can trust the government to run a war, why can't we trust the government to run health care?

We can't trust government to run a war either. Iraq, Afghanistan, War on Terror are all huge expensive clusterfucks.

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 15917798)

Here is some more information about Single Payer Healthcare systems:

United Kingdom - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...partments.html

Canada - http://www2.canada.com/montrealgazet...6-08f72843109c

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 15918199)

If we can trust the government to run a war, why can't we trust the government to run health care?

Uhhhhhhhh........... :error:1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye (Post 15918221)

We can't trust government to run a war either. Iraq, Afghanistan, War on Terror are all huge expensive clusterfucks.

I guess the police and fire department are something you can't trust either.

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 15918248)

http://www.healthcare-now.org/wp-con..._Operation.jpg

You found the problem but came up with the wrong answer. Big insurance and big government are causing the soaring cost of health CARE. Get rid of both.

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 15918243)

I guess the police and fire department are something you can't trust either.

thats not the federal government is it?

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 15918489)

You found the problem but came up with the wrong answer. Big insurance and big government are causing the soaring cost of health CARE. Get rid of both.

I rather vote for an elected official who supports single payer health care, then to pay for a CEO's bonuses base on denying coverage.

Have you been to an ER in the US lately? Waiting hours to be seen by a doctor isn't uncommon anyways. There has to be a better solution.

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