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Donnie Gangsta 11-28-2002 04:01 AM

PAYCOM OVERCHARGING .xx% ??????
 
Hi. People who process with paycom.. do this:

1. Log into financal reports (https://www.epochsystems.com/secure/financial.cgi)
2. Go to the payments section, select company, then click continue
3. Use the pre-selected dates and click Create Report
4. Pick any random date
5. Note the Net Sales amount (Write it down)
6. Click the total fees hyperlink
7. Divide the processing fee by the net sales amount

I bet it is a few tenths of a percentage higher than your fee.

For instance.. 12.67% instead of 12.5%, 15.33%, 15.74%, etc, etc.. And plus, it's different every period!

I could be a unique case, which is why I wanted to ask here. I find it peculiar that a company that has the programming capacity to write complicated processing software hasn't the ability to simply multiply the net sales amount by a set variable (e.g. 12.5%) .. I understand that there should be some degree of disparity due to the fact that dollars only have two decimal places, but that should only be say .0x% difference every time, not .70!

Think about it, if they overcharge everyone .6%, that is a lot of money. Processing just $1,000,000 per day, that is an extra $60,000 for them!

So.. I just wanted to do a random survey to see if this is the case for everyone else as well? If so, maybe something a little shady going on :)

** NOTE - I just noticed that one week they charged me less than they were supposed to by .03% ** - so maybe there is a reason it fluctuates? I don't think it can be because of credits/chargebacks, since they are deducted before fees are calculated. **

Kimmykim 11-28-2002 04:04 AM

Are you sure you have taken everything into account? Credits, chargebacks, etc? If you are using net after all that's come out, you won't get the same number as you would off the gross.

Donnie Gangsta 11-28-2002 04:11 AM

Their fee is based on NET sales, NOT gross sales.

The formula is:

pf = processing fee
rsv = reserve
cb = charge back fees
misc = miscellaneous

gross sales - chargebacks/credits = net sales
net sales - [netsales(pf+rsv)+cb+misc] = payout

Chargebacks and credits are deducted before the fees are calculated..

funkmaster 11-28-2002 04:11 AM

... donnie, I´d be very carefull with such accusations ... and follow kimmy´s advice.

mrthumbs 11-28-2002 04:13 AM

Overheard at Paycom:

"omg, Donnie the Gangsta caught us!!"

Donnie Gangsta 11-28-2002 01:15 PM

I'm bumping this because I really want to know.

[The Leader] 11-28-2002 01:34 PM

They take the correct amount from us every month.

seven 11-28-2002 01:49 PM

Wrong day to put this thread on I'm sure Clay is having dinner with his family today to answerr your question. Now, my question is what you see when you log in there? Unfortunately i never wanted a master code as I switched processor so i can't see it. Do you see a detailed stats in there by any chance? Like how many sign-ups, how many declines, what your retention % is, how long your member stays etc? If you do, I'll get me a master code :)

Donnie Gangsta 11-28-2002 03:15 PM

Yes. The financial reports are a bit different than the master sales summary. It includes only number specific details. However, in the master sales summary, there is a plethora of detailed stats available. Paycom is very good, save this issue that I just noticed last night.

Kimmykim 11-28-2002 04:17 PM

Sorry, but I don't see it.

Donnie Gangsta 11-29-2002 12:24 PM

I want my bloody question answered! Why does paycom charge .xx% +/- (Mostly +) your rate, and why is it never consistent??

No one is in the office today because of the holiday, but maybe someone here can tell me??

Is it just a big rip off scam or is there some justification to billing you 12.93%, 12.76%, 12.84%, etc, etc, instead of 12.5% every weeK??

Kimmykim 11-29-2002 12:54 PM

When you emailed Paycom about it what did they tell you?

Epoch 11-29-2002 01:01 PM

Donnie Gangsta

Email me your Mastercode and I will have accounting look at your account.

Thanks,

Clay
[email protected]

scoreman 11-29-2002 01:08 PM

.6% of 1,000,000 is $6k not $60k. I hope your math is better with your other numbers.

Donnie Gangsta 11-29-2002 03:33 PM

Yeah.. you're right $6000.. It was very late when I wrote that. 1mil*.006=6000 .. I did .06 for whatever reason..

Donnie Gangsta 11-29-2002 03:38 PM

Yeah.. you're right $6000.. It was very late when I wrote that. 1mil*.006=6000 .. I did .06 for whatever reason..

Shoplifter 11-29-2002 03:45 PM

One of the first cases of computer age crime was of a guy who adapted bank software to shuffle the left over mils from bank transactions into his account. It adds up over time.

Previously when things were done on paper these fractions were written off.


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