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SayWhut 05-31-2009 07:08 PM

HTML 5 coming soon folks!
 
This looks promising:-

http://arstechnica.com/open-source/n...ased-video.ars




Only problem is, Microsoft is letting us down, yet again.

StuartD 05-31-2009 07:37 PM

Yes, some of the work with the <canvas> tag that I've seen is amazing! People are making 3d first person games right in the HTML.

AdPatron 05-31-2009 07:47 PM

Yeah, fucking hate microsoft. they're going to fuck this up.

eroticsexxx 05-31-2009 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SayWhut (Post 15912107)
This looks promising:-

Only problem is, Microsoft is letting us down, yet again.

More than promising. HTML 5 is a reality and will be a huge "gamechanger" in the next year or so.

Notice carefully that Google has jumped on that bandwagon wholeheartedly. Adobe (Flash) and Microsoft (Silverlight) have a lot to lose.

Take a look at the upcoming Google Wave and you can begin to see the awesome effect that HTML 5 is gonna have on web technology.

Web 3.0 here we come.

Snake Doctor 05-31-2009 08:33 PM

Wow, this is probably one of the most informative things that actually affects my business that I've seen on GFY in years.

GatorB 05-31-2009 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SayWhut (Post 15912107)
Only problem is, Microsoft is letting us down, yet again.

That's the hater in you are talking. You have no proof the MS will not adopt this. Hell this thing is barely what one would call a "beta" stage. It's what, 3 years off at least before becoming mainstream.

eroticsexxx 05-31-2009 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 15912203)
Hell this thing is barely what one would call a "beta" stage. It's what, 3 years off at least before becoming mainstream.

Uh...correction.

What do you think Wave utilizes? With Google lobbying and smelling blood in the water in regards to the not-so-widely-embraced Silverlight, be prepared for HTML 5 to make serious waves (no pun intended) by the end of this year.

Something that shows this much potential is being embraced by developers in droves.

Silverlight was supposed to be in direct competition to Flash, then along comes this new standard that blows both out of the water.

3 years off? Beta stage? Watch how quickly HTML 5 changes up the game entirely.

PSD CSS XHTML 05-31-2009 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroticsexxx (Post 15912208)
Uh...correction.

What do you think Wave utilizes? With Google lobbying and smelling blood in the water in regards to the not-so-widely-embraced Silverlight, be prepared for HTML 5 to make serious waves (no pun intended) by the end of this year.

Something that shows this much potential is being embraced by developers in droves.

Silverlight was supposed to be in direct competition to Flash, then along comes this new standard that blows both out of the water.

3 years off? Beta stage? Watch how quickly HTML 5 changes up the game entirely.

Word to your mother :thumbsup

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-31-2009 09:34 PM

I cant wait for that damn skinning video shit, no more hiring flash programmers to make a flv, just css that shit up!

GatorB 05-31-2009 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroticsexxx (Post 15912208)
Uh...correction.

What do you think Wave utilizes? With Google lobbying and smelling blood in the water in regards to the not-so-widely-embraced Silverlight, be prepared for HTML 5 to make serious waves (no pun intended) by the end of this year.

Something that shows this much potential is being embraced by developers in droves.

Silverlight was supposed to be in direct competition to Flash, then along comes this new standard that blows both out of the water.

3 years off? Beta stage? Watch how quickly HTML 5 changes up the game entirely.

I'm talking about the VIDEO aspect of it ninny which is what the article is about. Hell even the major players that are for it can't agree on a standard codec. Until they all get together and say "yeah this is what we'll use" then yeah it's beta.

As far as Wave. Heard of it haven't bothered with it. Not worth my time. As far as I can tell it's just a bunch of social networking crap. At least that's what I've read.

Mr. Cool Ice 05-31-2009 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoesTraffic (Post 15912151)
Yeah, fucking hate microsoft. they're going to fuck this up.

No, the porn industry will fuck this up the same way we fuck up every thing else. We ruin everything. Like a virus. :thumbsup

eroticsexxx 06-01-2009 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 15912319)
I'm talking about the VIDEO aspect of it ninny which is what the article is about. Hell even the major players that are for it can't agree on a standard codec. Until they all get together and say "yeah this is what we'll use" then yeah it's beta.

As far as Wave. Heard of it haven't bothered with it. Not worth my time. As far as I can tell it's just a bunch of social networking crap. At least that's what I've read.

Even if you were talking about the VIDEO aspect, this "ninny" knows enough to say with confidence that any tech related to HTML 5, including codec standards, will be ironed out in less than a year. Count on the Mozilla (already on board), Chrome, Safari and Opera browsers to get with the times pretty quickly and even for Microsoft to allow codec developers to port over the dominant codecs as add ons until they figure out what to do with Silverlight.

Speaking of dominant codecs - Google (Youtube), Mozilla, Apple, Wikipedia and DailyMotion are five major internet brands that are supporting the Ogg codec already, which has been released as Theora 1.0 (full public release, not beta).

The train has already left the station.

And if you believe that Wave is merely a social networking app and is not worth your time, then you need to do more research. Also, look carefully at the persons on the Wave development team, they're not slackers in the least.

:2 cents:

Iron Fist 06-01-2009 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 15912203)
That's the hater in you are talking. You have no proof the MS will not adopt this. Hell this thing is barely what one would call a "beta" stage. It's what, 3 years off at least before becoming mainstream.

Microsoft will adopt what they want in IE 8/9 like they have always done. Which is why developers to this very day continue to code sites for IE and for "Everyone Else". :disgust

SGS 06-01-2009 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 15912319)
I'm talking about the VIDEO aspect of it ninny which is what the article is about. Hell even the major players that are for it can't agree on a standard codec. Until they all get together and say "yeah this is what we'll use" then yeah it's beta.

As far as Wave. Heard of it haven't bothered with it. Not worth my time. As far as I can tell it's just a bunch of social networking crap. At least that's what I've read.

Long time since I heard anyone say "ninny" :)

scouser 06-01-2009 05:24 AM

Looks promising, but will be years until we can really get round to using it

sortie 06-01-2009 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 15912313)
I cant wait for that damn skinning video shit, no more hiring flash programmers to make a flv, just css that shit up!

:1orglaugh

Sorry man, my bad.

Yeah, the whole time I'm coding a flv player I'm thinking "why isn't this shit just standard".
But the answer to that is so that I can make it work anyway I can dream up.

It's like the JW player is free and the commercial license is dirt cheap but people still need
other functions for their ideas to work.

There are plenty of free flv players on the net but the only reason I ever built a flv
player was that I tried all the free ones and none of them did the exact combination
of things that I wanted.

I suspect the HTML 5 video will work for some people but will not cut it for others,
just like all the free flv players.

GatorB 06-01-2009 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroticsexxx (Post 15912517)
Even if you were talking about the VIDEO aspect, this "ninny" knows enough to say with confidence that any tech related to HTML 5, including codec standards, will be ironed out in less than a year. Count on the Mozilla (already on board), Chrome, Safari and Opera browsers to get with the times pretty quickly and even for Microsoft to allow codec developers to port over the dominant codecs as add ons until they figure out what to do with Silverlight.

Speaking of dominant codecs - Google (Youtube), Mozilla, Apple, Wikipedia and DailyMotion are five major internet brands that are supporting the Ogg codec already, which has been released as Theora 1.0 (full public release, not beta).

The train has already left the station.

And if you believe that Wave is merely a social networking app and is not worth your time, then you need to do more research. Also, look carefully at the persons on the Wave development team, they're not slackers in the least.

:2 cents:

I don't give a fuck about Wave or their devleopers. And I wasn't bashing HTML 5 or anything. My whole post was more directed at the MS basher for making blanket statements. And usually it hard to get 2 groups to agree on anything let alone more than. look at the whole HD-DVD/blu-ray fight. If they all had agreed to ONE standard it would have hit the market 2 years sooner and an "expensive" blu-ray player would be $99 now and blu-ray movies would be $15 brand new. Since they haven't agreed to a codec that means there are some that obviously against ogg. Now if you know of some secret way to get those people to change their minds maybe you need to be part of the negotiations.

GatorB 06-01-2009 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 15912825)
Microsoft will adopt what they want in IE 8/9 like they have always done. Which is why developers to this very day continue to code sites for IE and for "Everyone Else". :disgust

Yeah and a few years ago that meant 90% for IE and 10% for everyone else. Now what is it 65-35? In a few years it'll be 50-50 or worse for IE. So the days where they do whatever they want are over. They are realizing that now with IE8 which at least tries to conform to standards. Supposedly the next MS broswer is going to based on webkit which is what Safari and Chrome are based on so why wouldn't it be compliant with HTML 5 like the others?

pornguy 06-01-2009 06:20 AM

Glad to see this is more than just some spaces added into some tags and not others.

daniel_webcams 06-01-2009 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoesTraffic (Post 15912151)
Yeah, fucking hate microsoft. they're going to fuck this up.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh indeed...

testpie 06-01-2009 02:22 PM

The Google Wave Dev. Preview did look pretty damn good, although I was under the impression it was coded using Google Gears and Google's JavaScript API crap (I've been too busy with education to keep on the web development train)?

I'm just hoping that, if MS does pull its finger out and implement HTML 5, they do it in a standard way so that I don't have to add "HTML 5 hacks" to my ever-growing collection of CSS and XHTML hacks.

baddog 06-01-2009 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 15912319)
As far as I can tell it's just a bunch of social networking crap.

Okay, so it is apparent you are not into marketing at all. What is it that you do?

collegeboobies 06-01-2009 02:29 PM

whats the difference

AtlantisCash 06-01-2009 03:45 PM

Read the whole article, i wish all goes fine for us (WebMasters/Developers)


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