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SilentKnight 05-29-2009 10:51 PM

Phil Specter gets 19 years to life
 
LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Music producer Phil Spector was sentenced Friday to the maximum sentence of 19 years to life for the murder six years ago of actress Lana Clarkson.

Phil Spector's first murder trial in 2007 ended in a mistrial as jurors said they couldn't reach a verdict.

That means Spector, 69, would be 88 before he would be eligible for parole.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/29/...ing/index.html

LiveDose 05-29-2009 11:29 PM

Moral of the story is if you are going to kill someone, get rid of the body...

Robbie 05-29-2009 11:32 PM

I don't know much about legal stuff...but how can they try you again for the same crime?

The first jury couldn't make up their minds right? That means some of them felt he was not guilty and others thought he was so it was a hung jury.

So these days the govt. can basically just keep trying you over and over until they finally get a jury that convicts you? :(

mmcfadden 05-29-2009 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15907774)
I don't know much about legal stuff...but how can they try you again for the same crime?

The first jury couldn't make up their minds right? That means some of them felt he was not guilty and others thought he was so it was a hung jury.

So these days the govt. can basically just keep trying you over and over until they finally get a jury that convicts you? :(

I think if your not found guilty you can't be charged... that would be double jeoperdy.

If it's a hung jury it's up to the prosecuter to establish the case again and try

GatorB 05-30-2009 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15907774)
I don't know much about legal stuff...but how can they try you again for the same crime?

The first jury couldn't make up their minds right? That means some of them felt he was not guilty and others thought he was so it was a hung jury.

So these days the govt. can basically just keep trying you over and over until they finally get a jury that convicts you? :(

These days? Um.... hung juries have always allowed the prosecution to re-try someone. This is not new. This goes back about 230 years. A hung jury is not a verdict.

Kick Ass Chat 05-30-2009 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 15907792)
I think if your not found guilty you can't be charged... that would be double jeoperdy.

If it's a hung jury it's up to the prosecuter to establish the case again and try

Bingo you are correct..:2 cents:

BVF 05-30-2009 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 15908006)
These days? Um.... hung juries have always allowed the prosecution to re-try someone. This is not new. This goes back about 230 years. A hung jury is not a verdict.

correct.....also a person can be retried for the same crime if the different prosecutions come from state and federal.....

One can be cleared of the state charge and then the feds can come in and charge you with the same shit.

The Duck 05-30-2009 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15907774)
I don't know much about legal stuff...but how can they try you again for the same crime?

The first jury couldn't make up their minds right? That means some of them felt he was not guilty and others thought he was so it was a hung jury.

So these days the govt. can basically just keep trying you over and over until they finally get a jury that convicts you? :(

It's like what the EU does when they try to force the EU constitution on coutries and the EURO.

Tat2Jr 05-30-2009 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15908168)
correct.....also a person can be retried for the same crime if the different prosecutions come from state and federal.....

One can be cleared of the state charge and then the feds can come in and charge you with the same shit.

Ahhhhhhh! You really are from the hood :) ..... you know how it goes.

Tat2Jr 05-30-2009 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 15907700)
Phil Specter gets 19 years to life....

OK, that takes care of the sentence for the hair cuts... now what'd they give him for the murder?

BVF 05-30-2009 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tat2Jr (Post 15908202)
Ahhhhhhh! You really are from the hood :) ..... you know how it goes.

http://www.blackvaginafinder.com/coo...not_amused.gif

Yea, the average dude from the hood would know the exceptions to double jeopardy along with the knowledge of how to cook up crack cocaine.

fris 05-30-2009 06:46 AM

he should just be locked up for that hairstyle

Tat2Jr 05-30-2009 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15908309)
http://www.blackvaginafinder.com/coo...not_amused.gif

Yea, the average dude from the hood would know the exceptions to double jeopardy along with the knowledge of how to cook up crack cocaine.

Nah... I wasn't really talking about the exceptions... I was talking about how the FEDS will swoop in when the state is going to/or has lost. 99% of us lilly white suburbinites don't have a fucking clue how the deck is stacked. From what you said... you obviously know how it plays out. If you see a piece of paper with "The United States of America VS. (your name)" it's time to say your goodbyes. There is no TV show fancy lawyer footwork in Federal Court. The conviction rate is almost as good as the effectiveness of birth control pills.... not good odds.

Crack almost always goes federal since they can basically throw away the key with an amount that any junkie could smoke in a single night. Then there's always the all encompassing conspiracy laws which give the lower guys the most time since they don't have anyone to snitch on. I'm so fucking sick of my taxes going to pay for all that shit. Now, Specter..... that's tax dollars well spent.

Sorry about my mandatory minimums rant. Please proceed as usual.

ExLust 05-30-2009 07:23 AM

Justice has been served.

Porn Producer 05-30-2009 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15908168)
correct.....also a person can be retried for the same crime if the different prosecutions come from state and federal.....

One can be cleared of the state charge and then the feds can come in and charge you with the same shit.

bullshit.

a person can not be tried for the same crime twice.

brassmonkey 05-30-2009 07:27 AM

time to get that fro braided hahaha!!

Domain Diva 05-30-2009 07:38 AM

Well thats crazy Spector locked up.....and smart ass OJ ........just needs Wako Jacko to complete the treble :thumbsup

SomeCreep 05-30-2009 08:06 AM

Looks like he'll be spending the rest of his life in prison.

Forest 05-30-2009 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 15907792)
I think if your not found guilty you can't be charged... that would be double jeoperdy.

If it's a hung jury it's up to the prosecuter to establish the case again and try

correct

double jeopardy prohibits you from being tried a second time is found not guilty

if its a hung jury its like a push. No one wins so the govt gets another shot at you if they wish


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