site editing...firefox and internet explorer..insane
 

Now days when I design a new html site I need to see how it looks in firefox and IE, thats crazy one small diffrent in code, and site looks good on IE and same time terrible at firefox...or the oppiste way...wtffffffff

:1orglaugh Fun, isn't it?

Major pain in the ass aint it.

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really? i did not know about this. you sure are informative, mate. good luck with the editing

use W3C's html and css validation tools and you should be find.
you need to follow the CSS 2 and HTML 4.01 standards and than most of the times the site will appear fine on every browser.

WRONG

IE isn't standard compliant, so just work your nifty beautiful page with w3 standards...

and then get ready to work in the IE version :winkwink: (btw, not 1, but 2 at least since IE6 isn't the same as IE7 and none of them are the same to IE8)

Either way, as a rule of thumb set all margins and paddings at 0 in the beginning of your style shit. If your page isn't very complex, and sizes don't need to be exact, then remember that IE will add 2 pixels (width and height) to any div by default. So if the real width of a div is 200px in IE it will be 202px. If you're floating or nesting divs, you'll need to keep that in mind, sustract borders, margins and paddings to make everything be in place. To make things worse, padding behavior is very different across different IE versions. When they got close (but not cigar) with IE7 they changed it again in IE8. Same goes for margins.

Sad thing is that you can't ignore IE, like it or not.

the key words you used were "most of the time", for all the other times , it usually makes a site not functionable for firefox users. Why firefox doesn't have its own internal fallback for things ie uses but it KNOWS wont match is fucking retarded.

IE 8 has come out, right? But at least it has the "compatibility" button thing, which I heard regresses how IE sees sites to earlier versions?

And we must also work in Chrome now, because there's no way that one's not going to take a bite out of the market. And though it's closer to FF for standards compliance, it's still either buggy or somehow stricter and a pain in the ass to crunch for.

I usually ignore Chrome compatibility if it's gonna take too much time, which I'll regret later.

:D

This just proves how confident Microsoft are with their new software updates.

IE8 still has major rendering flaws.

Shit you mean we aren't designing for aol and netscape anymore?

You know you're a geek when that cracks you up.

:D

just use simple html with css for colors etc, fuck all that divs and all h1 h2 and all that crap ... google isnt looking if your site is css or html ... and with html, i never had problems with compatibility ... :winkwink:

WRONG

Google likes clean code makes it easier to index your site, not to mention they get the right stuff right away... With tables your content can be under the navigation menus and other stuff, but with CSS you can put your content above the menus in the source, but still display it like if it was a table.

i knew i will get replies like that ... but from my own experience, i am beating big huge web 2.0 css based sites with my one page html coded ... so, anything can be written here or there, but for me results are important and i am really happy with what i am getting from old good html :winkwink:

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once you get used to the padding spacing quirks in internet explorer and you remember to address them while you're coding you never have to look back or test in both browsers.

i have xp via parallels installed just for explorer testing and haven't used it in months.