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Just Mike 05-13-2009 03:49 PM

FSC Brings Federal Trade Commission to XBIZ Panel
 
Just read this on XBIZ...thought everyone should check it out....and mark your calendars to attend this one.


http://www.xbiz.com/news/108209



For the hyperlink impaired:

CANOGA PARK, Calif. ? The Free Speech Coalition has announced the addition of a representative from the Federal Trade Commission to its presentation at the upcoming XBIZ Summer Forum in Las Vegas.

The session, "Wake-up Call: How Consumer Fraud Hurts the Entire Industry," will be held on Wednesday, June 3, as part of the FSC XXX University ? a program designed to bring educational opportunities to FSC members at low or no cost. The Coalition will also videotape the session and post it to its website, www.freespeechcoalition.com.

Stephen L. Cohen, a senior staff attorney with the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection, will participate on the panel in which he will discuss consumer fraud. Cohen has been with the division for 25 years, primarily working on litigation involving telemarketing and Internet fraud and has been the lead attorney on scores of cases filed in federal courts throughout the U.S.

Noted adult industry attorney Greg Piccionelli and program manager for ATKCash.com, "Gunner," join Cohen on the panel, which will be moderated by the FSC's executive director, Diane Duke.

Among the topics to be explored is a discussion of online consumer fraud ? is it on the rise and how prevalent is it in the adult entertainment industry? Also on the agenda is an examination of the legalities surrounding various billing practices as well as the things that operators need to know in order to protect themselves and their companies from government action and/or lawsuits and an unfair competition claims.

"Under previous democratic administrations, the adult entertainment industry faced federal action from the FTC for false and deceptive practices," Duke said. "We must be proactive as we consider best practices for online billing that will benefit consumers, individual businesses and the industry as a whole."

"Who better to help us define that line-in-the-sand for billing practices than the FTC itself?" Duke added.

Established in 1991, the Free Speech Coalition's mission is to lead, protect and support the growth and well-being of the adult entertainment community.

After Shock Media 05-13-2009 03:53 PM

Lets invite a lion into the retarded lambs sleeping quarters - Sweet!.

12clicks 05-13-2009 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 15849930)
Lets invite a lion into the retarded lambs sleeping quarters - Sweet!.

Quoted for truth.

Due 05-13-2009 04:49 PM

Hilarious!
That's what I call good humor :thumbsup

mikesouth 05-13-2009 05:27 PM

Genius....

Do we really need the FTC to tell us that prechecked cross sells, making it impossible to cancel subscription, bait and switch and other such tactics used by our industry are bad.

Nigga PLEASE!

Barefootsies 05-13-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 15849930)
Lets invite a lion into the retarded lambs sleeping quarters - Sweet!.

:2 cents:

Babaganoosh 05-13-2009 08:48 PM

FSC is clown shoes.

tony286 05-13-2009 08:49 PM

they defeated 2257?

Matt 26z 05-13-2009 09:26 PM

I think we all know that charges are on the way at some point. I don't really care about the paysite companies who run these schemes. They have accepted the risks along with the rewards.

What concerns me are all of the blind affiliates who don't realize they are in danger of being charged right along with their sponsors. That is the way it has traditionally worked in mainstream. They target the merchant and also certain affiliates, and it's not necessarily the largest affiliates either.

The $100 PPS looks good, but they need to add a disclaimer;
"What we are doing may one day get us charged by the Federal government. Our affiliates may be named in such a suit. Check this box if you understand the dangers of promoting us."

woj 05-13-2009 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 15849930)
Lets invite a lion into the retarded lambs sleeping quarters - Sweet!.

:thumbsup

KillerK 05-13-2009 10:26 PM

Why dont you invite the IRS too.

Barefootsies 05-13-2009 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 15850811)
Why dont you invite the IRS too.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:thumbsup

After Shock Media 05-14-2009 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 15850811)
Why dont you invite the IRS too.

That is already lined up for the next offshore convention.

JamesK 05-14-2009 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 15850811)
Why dont you invite the IRS too.

:1orglaugh

JFK 05-14-2009 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 15851059)
That is already lined up for the next offshore convention.

what are the dates ?:Oh crap

Due 05-14-2009 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 15850718)
I think we all know that charges are on the way at some point. I don't really care about the paysite companies who run these schemes. They have accepted the risks along with the rewards.

What concerns me are all of the blind affiliates who don't realize they are in danger of being charged right along with their sponsors. That is the way it has traditionally worked in mainstream. They target the merchant and also certain affiliates, and it's not necessarily the largest affiliates either.

The $100 PPS looks good, but they need to add a disclaimer;
"What we are doing may one day get us charged by the Federal government. Our affiliates may be named in such a suit. Check this box if you understand the dangers of promoting us."

I think what is a bigger concern is that someone that is a "veteran" with 25+ years worth of experience is talking about business practices in tech based business, I don't know about you but I have not met a lot of 55-60 years old lawyers that is technical minded.

I really can't see how such a person will understand how to properly separate the good from the bad in this business when the majority of the questions asked will probably be something like "do you think the cross sales is killing our business", "should we run cross sales over or under the accept button" etc etc

This could potentially lead to some major investigations on some of the big players, innocent or not the FTC usually doesn't stop until you settle or run out of cash to run your case.
Wasn't it soulcash that recently won against them but still went out of business?

Tom_PM 05-14-2009 09:05 AM

Good. It's better to know where one stands than it is to wonder about it endlessly.


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