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Boobgirl 05-02-2009 08:26 AM

Do you ever request your affiliates to change their website?
 
I have an affiliate that has incorrect personal information on their website , and I am wanting it changed. After repeated requests for it to be changed, would you hold back payment until it is done so?

u-Bob 05-02-2009 08:33 AM

wtf?? ?

alias 05-02-2009 08:44 AM

Let me be the first to say "Go Fuck Yourself".

Boobgirl 05-02-2009 08:57 AM

So I guess that is a no? So you do not mind if an affiliate spreads and uses incorrect information to promote your sites?

Porn Producer 05-02-2009 08:59 AM

i hope this is a troll

Sands 05-02-2009 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boobgirl (Post 15811493)
So I guess that is a no? So you do not mind if an affiliate spreads and uses incorrect information to promote your sites?

What manner of incorrect information? Perhaps a specific example will allow us to more easily address your question.

Boobgirl 05-02-2009 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sands (Post 15811497)
What manner of incorrect information? Perhaps a specific example will allow us to more easily address your question.

Incorrect information regarding the model's personal info, such as age, measurements, bio etc. A multiple requests was put in to change this information, and no changes have been made.

SBJ 05-02-2009 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sands (Post 15811497)
What manner of incorrect information? Perhaps a specific example will allow us to more easily address your question.

yeah a little more detail would help.. I mean if he is calling a solo girl a dirty slut then i would let it go if he is converting her but if she is a non nude model and he is saying "click here to see her gang banged" yeah I would have a problem with them :1orglaugh

Sands 05-02-2009 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boobgirl (Post 15811499)
Incorrect information regarding the model's personal info, such as age, measurements, bio etc. A multiple requests was put in to change this information, and no changes have been made.

Is it really that big of an issue that you would want to withhold payment and otherwise jeopardize affiliate relations?

SBJ 05-02-2009 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boobgirl (Post 15811499)
Incorrect information regarding the model's personal info, such as age, measurements, bio etc. A multiple requests was put in to change this information, and no changes have been made.

no i would not have a problem with that.. it's pointless details if he calls her 19 when you say she is 18.. so what if he says she has C cup boobs when they are really only B cups.. come one here :helpme

alias 05-02-2009 09:06 AM

Measurements and name? This is over bio info, you should still pay for the sales.

fuzebox 05-02-2009 09:35 AM

I would still try to contact them to change it, but withholding payment? Uhhhh no...

baddog 05-02-2009 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boobgirl (Post 15811499)
Incorrect information regarding the model's personal info, such as age, measurements, bio etc. A multiple requests was put in to change this information, and no changes have been made.

I was on your side until now. What possible harm is there?

BlingDaddy 05-02-2009 09:38 AM

And what affiliate program may this be? I am curious indeed... :2 cents:

DaddyHalbucks 05-02-2009 09:41 AM

Is he claiming she is underage? If so, that could be a problem.

SBJ 05-02-2009 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 15811567)
Is he claiming she is underage? If so, that could be a problem.


ah good point! if he is calling her underage would be a very valid reason to stop payment till he fixed that but otherwise who cares if he has false info about her age or measurements

baddog 05-02-2009 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 15811567)
Is he claiming she is underage? If so, that could be a problem.

The only acceptable reason I can think of, but if it was that she probably would have mentioned it.

Boobgirl 05-02-2009 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15811558)
I was on your side until now. What possible harm is there?

Thanks for the feedback. Glad to hear both sides. I can see not worrying about other stuff. Our only concern had to do with model's location in the bio. Some models do not want to have their home city listed online. Requests were made to change this, and it hasn't been done.

I'll be paying the affilaite, but now another question -do any of you actually review your affliates sites as to how they do promote you, or are there concerns about that?

SBJ 05-02-2009 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Boobgirl (Post 15811603)
Thanks for the feedback. Glad to hear both sides. I can see not worrying about other stuff. Our only concern had to do with model's location in the bio. Some models do not want to have their home city listed online. Requests were made to change this, and it hasn't been done.

I'll be paying the affilaite, but now another question -do any of you actually review your affliates sites as to how they do promote you, or are there concerns about that?

see this is where being upfront right from the start would save a shit load of time.. yes if the affiliate was listing the models hometown and you or her had a issue with that then for sure make sure it gets changed as that is a bigger issue than when you stated it was a age or measurement issue

I've had members join my sites using the models real name for user/pass and i changed that the second i seen it. now my passes are random but my point is if it's a security issue of the model then for sure make sure the affiliate changes that info

baddog 05-02-2009 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boobgirl (Post 15811603)
Thanks for the feedback. Glad to hear both sides. I can see not worrying about other stuff. Our only concern had to do with model's location in the bio. Some models do not want to have their home city listed online. Requests were made to change this, and it hasn't been done.

I'll be paying the affilaite, but now another question -do any of you actually review your affliates sites as to how they do promote you, or are there concerns about that?

Don't give the model's location to the affiliate. Problem solved? Did they have a reason why they did not want to change the location on their [affiliate's] site?

Boobgirl 05-02-2009 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent Bob Jedi (Post 15811625)
see this is where being upfront right from the start would save a shit load of time..

Yes, I could have been more clearer, I apologize. Plus, From the feedback, I realize what information is really of importance. I was also hoping for stories of any other webmaster that addresses their own affliate issues, not just addressing my own scenerio.

Boobgirl 05-02-2009 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15811664)
Don't give the model's location to the affiliate. Problem solved? Did they have a reason why they did not want to change the location on their [affiliate's] site?

THat information as not provided to the affliate. THey got it elsewhere, and that info has been since removed

No reason was given as to why they would not remove it.

SBJ 05-02-2009 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boobgirl (Post 15811667)
Yes, I could have been more clearer, I apologize. Plus, From the feedback, I realize what information is really of importance. I was also hoping for stories of any other webmaster that addresses their own affliate issues, not just addressing my own scenerio.

yeah I don't care if a affiliate calls my models whores, sluts or lies about her age and measurements.. The only time I have a issue with a affiliate is if he lies about what the site offers IE hardcore content in a non nude/ topless site. posting her as underage.. Or if he posts real info about the model like real name and hometown.

I hate when programs get too bossy and try to tell me as a affiliate not to say this or that about a model if it's something little and I will normally drop that sponsor. But then again I never really post info about models so i don't have to deal with this stuff anymore..

Jdoughs 05-02-2009 10:43 AM

I have been asked, and I changed it.

Changed it to another sponsor.

SBJ 05-02-2009 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 15811714)
I have been asked, and I changed it.

Changed it to another sponsor.


haha i love your avatar.. I wonder if I can get strange brew on dvd? haven't seen that movie in years :1orglaugh

LiveDose 05-02-2009 10:48 AM

Sounds a little extreme to withhold payment but it's your program and sometimes that is the only way to get people to respond. It could also piss them off and the traffic could be moved somewhere else...

fuzebox 05-02-2009 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15811664)
Don't give the model's location to the affiliate. Problem solved? Did they have a reason why they did not want to change the location on their [affiliate's] site?

There are a lot of affiliates who run model bio sites and include as much personal information as they can find, and there is a demand for such sites from fans...

seeandsee 05-02-2009 11:03 AM

just promote Bangbros :)

Jdoughs 05-02-2009 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silent Bob Jedi (Post 15811726)
haha i love your avatar.. I wonder if I can get strange brew on dvd? haven't seen that movie in years :1orglaugh

I'm pretty sure its available, there is also a Bob And Doug's greatest hits from SCTV, its definitely worth the 20 bucks.

d-null 05-02-2009 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 15811778)
I'm pretty sure its available, there is also a Bob And Doug's greatest hits from SCTV, its definitely worth the 20 bucks.

it's been years but I always get the urge to go to a donut shop and eat donuts when I watched those guys

SBJ 05-02-2009 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 15811735)
There are a lot of affiliates who run model bio sites and include as much personal information as they can find, and there is a demand for such sites from fans...

see I can see this with a celebrity site or what not but a solo girl site where the model never gives out her real name or hometown is a different thing..

I've had a model make a modeling profile with her real name, location, and reference her website so I can't really say much to people for just posting info that is in the top 5 google searches anyways but if anyone posts real names or locations of one of my other models They sure wouldn't get paid by me for posting that info if they refused to take it down.

affiliates that want to post detailed info about a model can always just make up a name and fake hometown and that is fine

Jdoughs 05-02-2009 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 15811783)
it's been years but I always get the urge to go to a donut shop and eat donuts when I watched those guys

For me its backbacon and stubby's.

sortie 05-02-2009 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boobgirl (Post 15811418)
I have an affiliate that has incorrect personal information on their website , and I am wanting it changed. After repeated requests for it to be changed, would you hold back payment until it is done so?

If the affiliate is using factual info then you can't stop that.

He would sue the fuck out of you for the payment and win plus punitive damages.

If you have a term of service stating "no actual location and name of model can be used".
The you can slam him for violating that and withhold payments.

So address this issue in your terms of service which should already state that
the terms are subject to change at anytime and non-compliance is grounds for
termination of partnership.

Of course he can still put the shit up and not send you traffic. :1orglaugh

TeenCat 05-02-2009 04:50 PM

imho every traffic can bring you a sale, but if you are doing some fetish solo girl based on addicted members to your niche, bad promotion can make you bad image ...

Iron Fist 05-02-2009 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 15811735)
There are a lot of affiliates who run model bio sites and include as much personal information as they can find, and there is a demand for such sites from fans...

Fine line between a fan and stalker.

No offense... but seriously. :2 cents:

Useless Warrior 05-02-2009 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 15812503)
Fine line between a fan and stalker.

No offense... but seriously. :2 cents:

Ex-fucking-actly.

For those of you who may have forgotten, one of the arguments against 2257/secondary producer status was for the protection of the models; that not every scumbag who can afford a $25 photo set should have personally identifying information.

Supz 05-02-2009 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 15811735)
There are a lot of affiliates who run model bio sites and include as much personal information as they can find, and there is a demand for such sites from fans...

For any model that has somewhat of a name all her information is on wikipedia.

Pornopat 05-03-2009 05:06 AM

I think you would only be allowed to withhold payment here if:
A. The model would be endangered because of private information being given.
B. Chargebacks were unusually high because of unreal expectations.

If it just false information and it does not lead to a high percentage of chargebacks we tend to call it "good marketing".

u-Bob 05-03-2009 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silent Bob Jedi (Post 15811798)
affiliates that want to post detailed info about a model can always just make up a name and fake hometown and that is fine

Looks like Boobgirl is complaining tot he affiliate because he's doing exactly that; putting fake bio, measurements etc on his site. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Matt 26z 05-03-2009 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boobgirl (Post 15811499)
Incorrect information regarding the model's personal info, such as age, measurements, bio etc. A multiple requests was put in to change this information, and no changes have been made.

Is this something that hurts your site?

V_RocKs 05-03-2009 06:37 AM

Put it in your TOS and then send an email to all affiliates about the change and that if they are not in compliance after 1 month they will receive a personal Email. If that Email is not responded to and the info changed in a timely manner you ban the offenders.

You can word it flirty if you like...

Hey, guys and gals, I really do appreciate your traffic so if you notice you didn't get paid, this is why and you can always contact me directly to get that payment out if it happens to you. But, expect some dirty talk! Tee hee...

blah blah

fatfoo 05-03-2009 06:46 AM

Depends what kind of information.

brand0n 05-03-2009 12:20 PM

wow.
if anyone told me they were going to hold payment for this reason i would drop them so fast itd make head spin

u-Bob 05-03-2009 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n (Post 15814309)
wow.
if anyone told me they were going to hold payment for this reason i would drop them so fast itd make head spin

what he said.

SBJ 05-03-2009 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n (Post 15814309)
wow.
if anyone told me they were going to hold payment for this reason i would drop them so fast itd make head spin

but when was the last time you listed a models hometown?

This thread was a train wreck the way it was brought here but I stand behind posting a models real name and hometown that is not already known or can't be easily googled is not right to do.

alias 05-03-2009 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n (Post 15814309)
wow.
if anyone told me they were going to hold payment for this reason i would drop them so fast itd make head spin

It comes off as "cheap". :2 cents:

AtlantisCash 05-03-2009 02:20 PM

if somebody even tries to ask me that, will get a big fuck off without a doudt, i m the webmaster and my traffic resource does not make sense anybody.

i should say this stupid thread made me remind an old famous Gothic sponsor, who was keep asking to make changes to one of their affiliates site and end of the it they closed his account after a sale.

how ever it didn't any benefit to them, they got a big 'go fuck yourself' from people at gfy, maybe some of You peeps remember that thread.

AtlantisCash 05-03-2009 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 15811567)
Is he claiming she is underage? If so, that could be a problem.

:2 cents:

collegeboobies 05-03-2009 02:27 PM

WTF why does someone need PERSONAL INFORMATION On their website and why would it matter if it is incorrect?

I'd promote someone else if i was him

bobby666 05-03-2009 02:35 PM

money counts. and that's all


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