Any PHP guys moving to Ruby ?
 

Python or Ruby from PHP

why move ? php is fine :P

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Nope, PHP is perfectly fine for me.

Yea Ruby on Rails is awsome. Most of my programming team have moved to doing large projects in RoR

hell no.

Started looking at Ruby a few weeks ago and must say that I was really impressed! It's a nice language.

Since I'm developing a facebook app, php seemed liked the best choice of language so I haven't made the switch.

Someday I'll probably jump over. At this point though it's not worth the penalty of leaving a homogeneous environment, or paying the learning curve tax on a language that's still rapidly evolving. After 13 years with PHP, and with the MVC frameworks out there for it, I can make it do what I need to quick enough.

It would probably be easier to switch if I had independent projects that I could spin without having to put both PHP and Ruby into the same httpd.

Here's some neat looking stuff I haven't had time to play with:

http://kohanaphp.com/ New MVC framework
http://www.cherokee-project.com/ New high performance httpd
http://particletree.com/examples/pqp/ PHP profiler built into pages
http://www.firephp.org/ "Firebug for PHP"

I am a believer in all languages and platforms. I have seen excellent and terrible projects on each.

At the end of the day, its really about who programmed it and how they programmed it. We are mostly a ruby shop now and all new projects are in RoR because we find our productivity increases by 200% or so.

Still seems like about 1/2 of our work load is cleaning up PHP rats nests left by cheap outsourcing contractors. Sigh.

If anyone is interested in getting things done in half the time and being maintainable for twice the time, take a look at RoR!

Seems like PHP is starting to smell like Perl was in about 2002ish. In a few more years Ruby/Rails will be the new PHP, get ready!

I've been doing some code in Python using Django. I never thought I would say this but coding is actually fun now.

http://www.djangoproject.com/

I say PHP is fine.

I have been coding in C# and MS has come a long way. The LINQ db stuff and MVC are good. As long as you use every thing MS (Win2008, MS SQL Server etc) all works nice.

I have been looking at F# so that's why my interest in Ruby.

Also JavaScript is becoming a must know language these days.

moved to RoR
so much faster to code maintain and debug

the lang should fit the project so I use both and java

@buran, a couple nice links there thanks.

@jay23, I don't think developers waste time learning plain vanilla javascript anymore, because there are just too many browsers that you need to developer for. I think time is better spent learning a framework such as jquery or mootools, which handles all the cross-browser compatibility issues for you, but I agree it's a must know language especially if you're interested in developing good interfaces.

I always used to hate Javascript but I've come to this realization myself, which is why I've taken an interest in developing FF extensions and some other stuff that uses Javascript.

It really is used for everything these days.

The plain fact of the matter is that RoR is a pain in the ass to setup on a server... especially if you have directadmin. I don't see many adult developers releasing RoR based apps as long as this is the case.

how original :1orglaugh ... that's only the slogan for every MVC type framework out there right now