tv has been free and profitable for years
 

if someone wants premium tv they pay for it, that has also been profitable for years

in the current state of the adult industry you either offer free or premium entertainment, both are profitable to offer if you know what you are doping

if you do not know what you are doing you will be broke no matter what so shut the fuck up and learn to do something and stop bitching you fagot ass pansy mother fucker

lame jon...

i think you have just saved the industry.

:1orglaugh:thumbsup

And we should listen to someone that can't even afford to pay the people he owes money to..

I'm assuming of course that your Jon C like everyone seems to think.

nope, we should listen to you
serving free content is very profitable if you do what you said in what i just quoted by you

While vastly over simplified, I agree that today's business model is changing.

This is now a pull, not push, economy and porn buyers are tired of being fed what BRO programs think they want instead of what they really are asking for. You just have to face the facts that the content buying game, the selling of porn (online or business in general) is moving to a more tailored solution.

It is not all about niche. It is about listening to your member base, and getting them their requests, or tailoring your content to their demands. Not feeding them same ole same ole and expecting them to pay a premium for that.

:2 cents:

shortest video on my tube is 21 minutes, lol

you guys with your illegal by US law with 2 minute videos not converting shit can suck my cock


and yes your fagot ass tubes full of sponsor content imported by you is a illegal tube and you by law if you are a US citizen have to have 2257 docs for all that content



you keep calling legal tubes illegal and you're clueless, lmao



user uploaded content is legal as long as you yhave a solid dmca policy and stick to it




some of you are lucky you do not get sued for slander by calling legal tubes illegal



just like hulu, you guys think it is illegal, but fact is just like with most tube is content is uploaded by the actual owner of the shit



you see with tubes these big programs get to faze you expensive ass affiliates out

smart man, one of todays players




these has been bitches trying to fight todays players have already lost




we own this industry now


why?


because we give to the guys that want to stroke there cock what they want and for a fair offer



understand?

noone want to talk about facts, i love it

quick to hate on some shit though, you ol bitch ass pussies

pussies of the industry

that is why affiliates are being fazed out, we found out we can save alot of money going around you

tubes tubes tubes, thank jesus for them

The problem today is the sellers to a large extent do not understand the product or the buyer, they're convinced that if you get the design right and throw enough traffic it will convert. The problem is that after 8 years the consumer has learned all our tricks and is not playing the game.

THE CUSTOMER IS KING.
He always was and always will be, if you don't give him what he wants someone else will.

But many will continue to send traffic to the wrong sites and wonder why they're losing money.

So now the customer is king?

I thought it was traffic.
:1orglaugh

Why'd you go and break his streak of 5 posts in a row in his own thread? Now he's gotta start it all over...

Yes very true.

The problem is many affiliate will still demand % that simply are not worth it. Last one I spoke to has a big Tube site and he wants 75%, I'm to upload 5-6 minute clips, BG is to have the cum shot, clips to be encoded with his domain.

He promises 5+ sales a day. I told him on 150 sales a week at $30 he will be on 75%. No he wants all this on 1 or 150 joins and at $2.95 or $29.95 a join.

Now there are sites doing what he wants, but how much is left for the site, running and filling it?

Not enough to give the customer a good crack. And there is why surfers are moving away from buying porn. We don't meet their needs.

:2 cents:

you should stfu and let the players of the industry talk while your fagot domaining ass that admits he is nothing but a domainer in this industry

el em eh oh

Jon clark why do you even keep trying?
What is it now, trying to see if you still have the troll ability to make something last a couple pages? At least it was a wee bit more entertaining when you were using your girlfriends fake account - also kind of odd she/you stopped posting damn near daily when you got your new fake nick approved.

I haven't seen any change in my revenue since torrents, tubes or anything else.

Believe it or not there are people that prefer to pay. They like the quality. The download shit from one place without searching all over the fucking place... etc... etc... etc...

I suppose different things are the most important part depending on your skills.

Getting traffic is easy, yes easy, getting them to buy something is tough. If you have something that's hard to sell then you might convert 1-1000. Now to double your sales is it easier to to sell to 1 of the 999 people who clearly are not interested in buying or get another 1000 people?

I find it easier to get more people to buy than get more people who don't buy.

Others are convinced the customers will not buy and the only solution is to get another 1,000. Today there are not another 1,000 people to be had, unless you take them from someone else, who will in turn take them from you.

So we all spend too much time and money trying to grab traffic from each other rather than spend more on selling to the traffic we already have.

Does it work? Look around you and tell me it's working. :1orglaugh

But there will always be one sponsor who tells us his sites are doing better than even. :upsidedow

You should learn how to type, talk, speak, and spell english.

You type like a drunk 12 yr old who hasn't eaten anything but Mushrooms for the day.

Seriously, don't pretend to know shit when you can't even form a simple sentence.

Meathead.

Jon Clark. Biggest. Adult Industry. Failure. Ever.

His board is a huge success

You can compare free porn to commercial TV once Pizza Hut and Coca Cola begin advertising on PornHub and RedTube, etc.

Until then, the comparison is not valid at all.

fuck, you just stole my answer :1orglaugh

it all depends on what you do in the business...

TV isn't free. I pay $50 a month for it.

This is normal because jon clark (the OP) is a completely ignorant and bastardized fool.

Thinks he knows everything about us and our industry, yet cant seem to get anywhere or make an intelligent statement to date.

Mother fucker has ideas sure... but its how the stupid fuck goes about trying to form these ideas into reality... no integrity and no true business sense.

I love those people.

You stupid mother fucker. You need to just shut the fuck up.

Do you know what a TV Commercial is? :1orglaugh

You can't afford a server. Your tubesites have sponsor hosts FLVs. Nobody gives a fuck about you nobody will ever give a fuck about you stop trying to bullshit and pretend you pathetic fucking loser.

Sure thing, champ...sorry to interrupt your players-only discussion with my playa-hatin' ways. So where were you again on the commercial-less illegal adult tube site online being exactly like the commercialized legal mainstream TV sector offline?

you realize telvision is mostly ads, and magazines and newspapers, both of which cost, are 65% or more ads right?

television is not free, nor will it ever be, especially with digital cable being forced on everyone, it is definitely not free.

why dont you take your own advice? youre not a player jon, youre a loser, get fucked.

DVR? I can't remember the last time I watched a commercial. Although, my cable certainly isn't free. :upsidedow

Ahoy! better be careful thar, the copyright and content protectors will come in here and will condemn you for using that EVIL technology known as time shifting ;)

Despite Sony winning the court cases and trial going back to 1976.

:thumbsup

tube sites have ads, they make alot of money from them ads, that is no different from free tv full of ads, and the system has been profitable forever



btw, most tubes you think are illegal are really legal and the tubes full of sponsor hosted content you think are legal are in fact illegal :winkwink:

What are you Jon's brother? You can't be this stupid.

It doesn't matter if people DVR and skip the ads the ads have already paid to be played on the network.

The brands have already paid for their products to be placed in the shows.

This is why advertisers have a problem with Tivo, etc.

You're an idiot.

This is soo simple to comprehend I don't even feel like trying to explain it to you because it will just be a waste. No matter what anyone says you will talk out of your ass to try and look right.

My house smells just like a zoo
It's chock full of shit and puke
Cockroaches on the walls
Crabs are crawling on my balls
oh well im so clean cut
and I just want to fuck some slut

I love living in the city
I love living in the city

Ive spent my whole life in the city
where junk is king and the air smells shitty
people puking everywhere
piles of blood, scabs, and hair
bodies wasted and disease
young people dieing on the streets
but the suburban scumbags they don't care
they just get fat and die they're hair

I love living in the city
I love living in the city

I'm sorry, I meant "legal" tubes posting other sites' copyrighted material that they charge money for without their permission through "uploaders" who supposedly aren't them...my bad.

mmm what if China Gogetski takes your premium content and puts it on his free tube?

We get 2 channels for free... and they are total crap, you want better you have to pay!

:thumbsup