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Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-18-2009 03:51 PM

I'm board, ask me PHP related questions.
 
I'm bored, it's Saturday night and I'm home trying to force myself to work, but I don't want too.. So help me get in the mood and ask me any PHP related question, and I'll answer as best as I can. :thumbsup

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-18-2009 03:55 PM

Fuck, and I just noticed I spelled bored, board... :Oh crap

candyflip 04-18-2009 03:56 PM

What are your rates? :1orglaugh

Serge Litehead 04-18-2009 04:03 PM

have you found a use for its new goto function?)

borked 04-18-2009 04:06 PM

Why is needle/haystack not consistent in logical order?

bo$$ 04-18-2009 04:06 PM

When I display an echo only executed with an if statements on the same page, it seems like that echo is on the page BEFORE I execute the code (for example, age verification validation)

Like this:

PHP Code:

<?php
$age 
$_GET['age']
if (
$age 18)
{
echo 
"your too young";
}
?>
<form action="penis.php" method="get">
<input type="text" name="age" />
<input type="submit" />

If I were to go to /penis.php, the echo would be displayed.

How the fuck do I do this?

Im new to php..

StuartD 04-18-2009 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 15759025)
Why is needle/haystack not consistent in logical order?

:1orglaugh that always gets me

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-18-2009 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 15759008)
What are your rates? :1orglaugh

Not really looking to take on anything as I got products of my own to put out, along with my own projects, but if you want hit me up depending on what you need done, we can work something out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by holograph (Post 15759017)
have you found a use for its new goto function?)

Never really used the function to be honest.

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 15759025)
Why is needle/haystack not consistent in logical order?

Good question, but I don't know that answer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bo$$ (Post 15759029)
When I display an echo only executed with an if statements on the same page, it seems like that echo is on the page BEFORE I execute the code (for example, age verification validation)

Like this:

PHP Code:

<?php
$age 
$_GET['age']
if (
$age 18)
{
echo 
"your too young";
}
?>
<form action="penis.php" method="get">
<input type="text" name="age" />
<input type="submit" />

If I were to go to /penis.php, the echo would be displayed.

How the fuck do I do this?

Im new to php..

Because if $_GET['age'] isn't defined via penis.php?age=12 then technically $age returns as 0, which is lower then 18, therefor your echo is executed. Best way would be to do this:

PHP Code:

<?php
$age 
$_GET['age']
if (!empty(
$age) && ($age 18))
{
echo 
"your too young";
}
?>
<form action="penis.php" method="get">
<input type="text" name="age" />
<input type="submit" />


majortom 04-18-2009 04:13 PM

Thanks for the proposed help.
Hey, I got a CMS (updatem.com url defunct now) from 2005 running my member's area updates.
It works great, I couldn't live without it.

My questions are: is the script still secured to use, even though we are now at PHP5.something? Should it be reviewed/rewritten?

Thanks in advance for your time
MajorTom

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-18-2009 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by majortom (Post 15759042)
Thanks for the proposed help.
Hey, I got a CMS (updatem.com url defunct now) from 2005 running my member's area updates.
It works great, I couldn't live without it.

My questions are: is the script still secured to use, even though we are now at PHP5.something? Should it be reviewed/rewritten?

Thanks in advance for your time
MajorTom

All depends on how the code is written, if it works fine in PHP5 and doesn't have errors, and is written properly then you're good.

rowan 04-18-2009 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 15759025)
Why is needle/haystack not consistent in logical order?

Hate that, I'm constantly loading up the php reference site to check... even worse, some functions will quietly fail without complaint if you supply a string then array when it should have been array then string.

u-Bob 04-18-2009 04:38 PM

Your opinion on the difference in speed between switch and if when comparing a string against several regex's?

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-18-2009 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 15759080)
Your opinion on the difference in speed between switch and if when comparing a string against several regex's?

I don't see much of a difference, I personally use if/elseif but I've also been told by many that Switch is better...

KRosh 04-18-2009 04:52 PM

Why does this work? Why does this show the email address?

#1

Code:

<?php
class person {
    private $email = ?foo?;
    function showEmail() {
        echo $this->email;
    }
}
class user extends person {}
$u = new user();
$u->showEmail();



but this doesn?t?

#2

Code:

<?php
class person {
    private $email = ?foo?;
}
class user extends person {
    function showEmail() {
        echo $this->email;
    }
}
$u = new user();
$u->showEmail();

Also, why does this work

#3

Code:

<?php
class person {
    private $email = ?foo?;
    function showEmail() {
        echo $this->email;
    }}
class user extends person {
    function showEmail() {
        parent::showEmail();
    }
}
$u = new user();
$u->showEmail();


:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-18-2009 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRosh (Post 15759109)
Why does this work? Why does this show the email address?

#1

Code:

<?php
class person {
    private $email = ?foo?;
    function showEmail() {
        echo $this->email;
    }
}
class user extends person {}
$u = new user();
$u->showEmail();



but this doesn?t?

#2

Code:

<?php
class person {
    private $email = ?foo?;
}
class user extends person {
    function showEmail() {
        echo $this->email;
    }
}
$u = new user();
$u->showEmail();

Also, why does this work

#3

Code:

<?php
class person {
    private $email = ?foo?;
    function showEmail() {
        echo $this->email;
    }}
class user extends person {
    function showEmail() {
        parent::showEmail();
    }
}
$u = new user();
$u->showEmail();


:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme

PHP Code:

<?php
class person {
    var 
$email 'foo';
}
class 
user extends person {
    function 
showEmail() {
        echo 
$this->email;
    }
}
$u = new user();
$u->showEmail();
?>

:thumbsup:thumbsup

quantum-x 04-18-2009 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRosh (Post 15759109)
Why does this work? Why does this show the email address?

#1

Code:

<?php
class person {
    private $email = ?foo?;
    function showEmail() {
        echo $this->email;
    }
}
class user extends person {}
$u = new user();
$u->showEmail();



but this doesn?t?

#2

Code:

<?php
class person {
    private $email = ?foo?;
}
class user extends person {
    function showEmail() {
        echo $this->email;
    }
}
$u = new user();
$u->showEmail();

Also, why does this work

#3

Code:

<?php
class person {
    private $email = ?foo?;
    function showEmail() {
        echo $this->email;
    }}
class user extends person {
    function showEmail() {
        parent::showEmail();
    }
}
$u = new user();
$u->showEmail();


:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme

These are all inheritance / overriding questions.
#1 works, because you're extending a class, but not overriding any functions - so the object $user has inherited all the properties and methods of person - basically, you've cloned it.

#2 doesn't work, because you've declared $email in the parent class as private. If you wanted to access that, you'd have to use something like the third method, using an accessor - ie parent::getEmail() - or declare the variable as public (not so good)

quantum-x 04-18-2009 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 15759111)
PHP Code:

<?php
class person {
    var 
$email 'foo';
}
class 
user extends person {
    function 
showEmail() {
        echo 
$this->email;
    }
}
$u = new user();
$u->showEmail();
?>

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Sure, but that's gone back to PHP4 style OOP...

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-18-2009 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15759115)
Sure, but that's gone back to PHP4 style OOP...

What do you suggest, using public instead of var?

I really don't see much difference with var or public.

protected $email = 'foo'; works also

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-18-2009 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 15759117)
What do you suggest, using public instead of var?

I really don't see much difference with var or public.

protected $email = 'foo'; works also

I guess the only thing I can find that makes public better then var is in PHP6 var will be removed.

bo$$ 04-18-2009 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 15759040)
Not really looking to take on anything as I got products of my own to put out, along with my own projects, but if you want hit me up depending on what you need done, we can work something out.



Never really used the function to be honest.



Good question, but I don't know that answer.



Because if $_GET['age'] isn't defined via penis.php?age=12 then technically $age returns as 0, which is lower then 18, therefor your echo is executed. Best way would be to do this:

PHP Code:

<?php
$age 
$_GET['age']
if (!empty(
$age) && ($age 18))
{
echo 
"your too young";
}
?>
<form action="penis.php" method="get">
<input type="text" name="age" />
<input type="submit" />


Swayt !:thumbsup

Thanks bro

borked 04-19-2009 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRosh (Post 15759109)
Why does this work? Why does this show the email address?

#1

but this doesn?t?

#2

Also, why does this work

#3



:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme


For understanding private/public/protected visibility, take a look at this OOP tutorial

http://www.brainbell.com/tutorials/php/TOC_oop.html

who 04-19-2009 01:29 AM

What does PHP stand for?

KRosh 04-19-2009 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who (Post 15759780)
What does PHP stand for?

used to mean personal home page until the release of php3

now it stands for Hypertext Preprocessor.

:upsidedow

Socks 04-19-2009 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who (Post 15759780)
What does PHP stand for?

It means you haven't been paying much attention over your last 18,000 posts... :Oh crap

KRosh 04-19-2009 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 15759762)
For understanding private/public/protected visibility, take a look at this OOP tutorial

http://www.brainbell.com/tutorials/php/TOC_oop.html

thanks for the link but,

He said he was bored so I thought I would give him a little something.

It was not a question I had, or anything I was working on, but merely something to take away boredom.


:1orglaugh

calmlikeabomb 04-19-2009 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRosh (Post 15759109)
Why does this work? Why does this show the email address?

#1

Code:

<?php
class person {
    private $email = “foo”;
    function showEmail() {
        echo $this->email;
    }
}
class user extends person {}
$u = new user();
$u->showEmail();

This works because the email property is within scope of the method accessing it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRosh (Post 15759109)
but this doesn’t?

#2

Code:

<?php
class person {
    private $email = “foo”;
}
class user extends person {
    function showEmail() {
        echo $this->email;
    }
}
$u = new user();
$u->showEmail();

This doesn't work, because email is out of scope. If you set it to "protected" then extending classes will be able it inherit the email property.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRosh (Post 15759109)
Also, why does this work

#3

Code:

<?php
class person {
    private $email = “foo”;
    function showEmail() {
        echo $this->email;
    }}
class user extends person {
    function showEmail() {
        parent::showEmail();
    }
}
$u = new user();
$u->showEmail();

This works because, again the property is within scope of the method calling it.

Also, you shouldn't be defining properties like that. That should be done in the constructor. The only time you'd do that are with class constants.

http://www.php.net/construct

blazin 04-19-2009 06:07 AM

What's the best PHP framework?

nation-x 04-19-2009 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blazin (Post 15760071)
What's the best PHP framework?

It depends on what you are trying to accomplish... if you want fast code... NONE. 99% of frameworks are slower than shit and personally, I think they complicate the development process more than they benefit. Frameworks are the tools of lazy programmers. :2 cents:

To clarify, any developer worth more than a penny should already have developed his own toolset of objects. I have my own and can develop complex/scalable applications very quickly because of it.

I could give a fuck less if another programmer thinks that developing apps in the latest OOP style using abstracted classes (like Zend Framework) is a good idea... I know from experience that apps built in that fashion run like shit. There is much more to consider, when building an app, than how fancy your code is.

Here is a super simple example of a framework I wrote and use alot. The one I actually use is alot more robust and secure... but, if you consider what it does, you will get the idea behind how I code applications.

http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/package/4963.html

Using this simple framework, you can build apps with SE friendly URLs where each URL is a seperate module, class and views. It is a little different than the MVC type of framework because I don't really like the Model/Controller model like you find in Zend Framework, Cake or Symphony. I also don't like template classes like Smarty, so I just use php in my templates. The simple beauty of this method is that, if I want to add new functionality, I don't even have to mess with any of the existing code except the bootstrap (index.php), where I add the includes. All I need to do is create a module class (memberModule.php), a class to handle functionality and my view templates. Any classes that I define in the bootstrap (like a database object), are available to the module... So I have a very scalable solution right from jump.


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