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IllTestYourGirls 04-18-2009 10:30 AM

Neo-con congressman booed off the stage at Tea Party
 


Yeah these were just GOP rallies :1orglaugh

pocketkangaroo 04-18-2009 10:33 AM

Well he did vote for the bailouts.

IllTestYourGirls 04-18-2009 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 15758353)
Well he did vote for the bailouts.

exactly :disgust

tony286 04-18-2009 03:30 PM

The right is just feeding the flames .They know the bail out and the tarp were needed.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/poli...y/1003336.html
Having being briefed by paulson last fall Senator Burr was so scared :
In the 40-minute speech, Burr told an audience of about 70 business executives about the recent banking crisis and the federal government's response. He said he was so spooked after a briefing in Washington last fall that he called his wife, Brooke, back in North Carolina.

"Tonight, I want you to go to the ATM machine, and I want you to draw out everything it will let you take. And I want you to tomorrow, and I want you to go Sunday," he said, according to an account in the Hendersonville Times-News. "I was convinced on Friday night that if you put a plastic card in an ATM machine the last thing you were going to get was cash."

Now they can throw the bullshit around but if they did nothing the thing would of collapsed.

kane 04-18-2009 03:55 PM

The more I read about the tea parties the more it makes me think that they are a gigantic republican party fail. It is no secret the republican party was behind the original organization of these things. But I think as they started to happen more independents started to move in and get involved and they took on a life of their own. There have been several cases now where I have read conservative leaders were not welcome at these things. I think that the republicans thought it would be a nice thing that made people think it was a grass roots calling out of the democrats and it backfired on them.

IllTestYourGirls 04-18-2009 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 15759006)
The more I read about the tea parties the more it makes me think that they are a gigantic republican party fail. It is no secret the republican party was behind the original organization of these things. But I think as they started to happen more independents started to move in and get involved and they took on a life of their own. There have been several cases now where I have read conservative leaders were not welcome at these things. I think that the republicans thought it would be a nice thing that made people think it was a grass roots calling out of the democrats and it backfired on them.

The Ron Paul people were already planning these tea parties before Fox started to cover them. I think Fox thought they could hijack them and turn it into a neo-con love fest. That backfired badly on them. Most of the people at the tea parties dislike the way Bush ran things and dislike the way Obama is running things. Because in fact there has been no real change. :2 cents:

kane 04-18-2009 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 15759132)
The Ron Paul people were already planning these tea parties before Fox started to cover them. I think Fox thought they could hijack them and turn it into a neo-con love fest. That backfired badly on them. Most of the people at the tea parties dislike the way Bush ran things and dislike the way Obama is running things. Because in fact there has been no real change. :2 cents:

I do find it funny any time a politician thinks he is organizing something and is arrogant enough to assume everyone that shows up agrees with him only to have it blow up in his/her face.

Also, I think there has been change from Bush to Obama. It is too early to see if it is for the better or will make much of a difference at all, but the guy has only been in office a few months so I'm willing to give him a little time to get the ball rolling and get his agenda off the ground.

IllTestYourGirls 04-18-2009 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 15759160)
I do find it funny any time a politician thinks he is organizing something and is arrogant enough to assume everyone that shows up agrees with him only to have it blow up in his/her face.

Also, I think there has been change from Bush to Obama. It is too early to see if it is for the better or will make much of a difference at all, but the guy has only been in office a few months so I'm willing to give him a little time to get the ball rolling and get his agenda off the ground.

His agenda means nothing. The Federal Reserve agenda means everything. In an recent interview former Fed Chair Greenspan was asked what the relationship between Obama and the Fed would be like and he answered it didnt matter. The fed sets up the polices and agenda. I wish I could find the youtube but I cant. If I come across it again Ill post it.

The same thing was true with Bush.

IllTestYourGirls 04-18-2009 05:39 PM

Not the one Im looking for but it works (I hate Alex Jones)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=pmozYsfcQVg

StickyGreen 04-18-2009 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 15759172)
His agenda means nothing. The Federal Reserve agenda means everything. In an recent interview former Fed Chair Greenspan was asked what the relationship between Obama and the Fed would be like and he answered it didnt matter. The fed sets up the polices and agenda. I wish I could find the youtube but I cant. If I come across it again Ill post it.

The same thing was true with Bush.

I don't think most of the people on this board will ever get it. They still think it's a Right/Left Red/Blue thing. :Oh crap

u-Bob 04-18-2009 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 15759188)
I don't think most of the people on this board will ever get it. They still think it's a Right/Left Red/Blue thing. :Oh crap

sad but true :(

kane 04-18-2009 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 15759172)
His agenda means nothing. The Federal Reserve agenda means everything. In an recent interview former Fed Chair Greenspan was asked what the relationship between Obama and the Fed would be like and he answered it didnt matter. The fed sets up the polices and agenda. I wish I could find the youtube but I cant. If I come across it again Ill post it.

The same thing was true with Bush.

As far as the fed is concerned he is the same as bush so far and shows no real sign of changing. But there are things he has done that are different from bush which constitutes some form of a change.

If you had said as far as the fed goes he is the same as bush I would agree with you, but I thought you meant overall and there are some things he is doing differently.

StickyGreen 04-18-2009 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 15759209)
As far as the fed is concerned he is the same as bush so far and shows no real sign of changing. But there are things he has done that are different from bush which constitutes some form of a change.

If you had said as far as the fed goes he is the same as bush I would agree with you, but I thought you meant overall and there are some things he is doing differently.

2 of the most important things are foreign policy and monetary policy.

What has Obama changed in those 2 areas?

We are still policing the world with troops in over 130 countries and we are still allowing the privately controlled Federal Reserve to handle our currency.

I'm sure Obama has "changed" a few minor things around like the percentage of certain taxes, or maybe something involving abortion, but if you look at the big picture ain't a damn thing going to change, as usual.

Jakez 04-18-2009 07:42 PM

And what did Ron Paul want to do again....? Ugh..

IllTestYourGirls 04-18-2009 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15758959)
The right is just feeding the flames .They know the bail out and the tarp were needed.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/poli...y/1003336.html
Having being briefed by paulson last fall Senator Burr was so scared :
In the 40-minute speech, Burr told an audience of about 70 business executives about the recent banking crisis and the federal government's response. He said he was so spooked after a briefing in Washington last fall that he called his wife, Brooke, back in North Carolina.

"Tonight, I want you to go to the ATM machine, and I want you to draw out everything it will let you take. And I want you to tomorrow, and I want you to go Sunday," he said, according to an account in the Hendersonville Times-News. "I was convinced on Friday night that if you put a plastic card in an ATM machine the last thing you were going to get was cash."

Now they can throw the bullshit around but if they did nothing the thing would of collapsed.

And yet you refuse to admit that Keynesian, inflationary, fractional reserve, fed, system has failed. :error

Just turn on the printing press and everything will be fine right? :error

Why do you hate poor people?

IllTestYourGirls 04-18-2009 08:18 PM

More neo cons booed at tea parties

http://www.sltrib.com/News/ci_12149069

Some GOP rally this turned out to be.

kane 04-18-2009 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 15759320)
2 of the most important things are foreign policy and monetary policy.

What has Obama changed in those 2 areas?

We are still policing the world with troops in over 130 countries and we are still allowing the privately controlled Federal Reserve to handle our currency.

I'm sure Obama has "changed" a few minor things around like the percentage of certain taxes, or maybe something involving abortion, but if you look at the big picture ain't a damn thing going to change, as usual.

As far as foreign policy goes he is working on opening up our stance on cuba. He has said his is willing to talk diplomacy with countries like Iran and leaders like Chavez. He is working towards ending our occupation of Iraq and refocusing our efforts in Afghanistan and he has talked of shutting down Guantanamo Bay as well as directing the CIA to longer use foreign contractors to do our interrogations.

I think those are steps in a different direction from where we were under Bush.

IllTestYourGirls 04-18-2009 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 15759476)
As far as foreign policy goes he is working on opening up our stance on cuba. He has said his is willing to talk diplomacy with countries like Iran and leaders like Chavez. He is working towards ending our occupation of Iraq and refocusing our efforts in Afghanistan and he has talked of shutting down Guantanamo Bay as well as directing the CIA to longer use foreign contractors to do our interrogations.

I think those are steps in a different direction from where we were under Bush.

Who funds all those things? Where do we get the money for any of that? Whos polices are they really?

pocketkangaroo 04-18-2009 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 15759320)
2 of the most important things are foreign policy and monetary policy.

What has Obama changed in those 2 areas?

We are still policing the world with troops in over 130 countries and we are still allowing the privately controlled Federal Reserve to handle our currency.

I'm sure Obama has "changed" a few minor things around like the percentage of certain taxes, or maybe something involving abortion, but if you look at the big picture ain't a damn thing going to change, as usual.

Just curious how the Fed is privately controlled when it's Board of Governors are appointed by the President.

crockett 04-18-2009 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 15759006)
The more I read about the tea parties the more it makes me think that they are a gigantic republican party fail. It is no secret the republican party was behind the original organization of these things. But I think as they started to happen more independents started to move in and get involved and they took on a life of their own. There have been several cases now where I have read conservative leaders were not welcome at these things. I think that the republicans thought it would be a nice thing that made people think it was a grass roots calling out of the democrats and it backfired on them.

Or maybe real Republicans are finally growing a brain and trying to take their party back. I can't stand the current Republican party, but if the "old school" conservatives came back I'd support it.

Meaning pre Ronald Regan Republicans whom were not closet case Religious Right or Neo Conservatives, but "real" physical Conservatives. However those guys seem to have long ago left the current Republican party for the Libertarians.

pocketkangaroo 04-18-2009 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 15759132)
The Ron Paul people were already planning these tea parties before Fox started to cover them. I think Fox thought they could hijack them and turn it into a neo-con love fest. That backfired badly on them. Most of the people at the tea parties dislike the way Bush ran things and dislike the way Obama is running things. Because in fact there has been no real change. :2 cents:

It was rather interesting to see Republicans jump on this Tea Party and take it over. The same Republicans that were bashing Ron Paul left and right during the primaries.

kane 04-18-2009 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 15759485)
Who funds all those things? Where do we get the money for any of that? Whos polices are they really?

Well, I assume the the taxpayers fund a good chunk of it. I'm sure there are also a lot of loans involved as well.

Who's polices are they? Maybe Obama and his parties? Then again it is probably the shadow government run by the skull and crossbones and the masons.

kane 04-18-2009 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 15759593)
Or maybe real Republicans are finally growing a brain and trying to take their party back. I can't stand the current Republican party, but if the "old school" conservatives came back I'd support it.

Meaning pre Ronald Regan Republicans whom were not closet case Religious Right or Neo Conservatives, but "real" physical Conservatives. However those guys seem to have long ago left the current Republican party for the Libertarians.

That may be. Real old school republicans are more like modern libertarians. Regan sold them out to the religious right to win elections but even they are starting to turn their backs on the republican party.

Right now the republican party is fractured. There are the people who want to go back to the hardcore religious stuff and those that want to ditch that and just focus on taxes, financial responsibility and more personal liberty. The test will be if those people can wrestle enough power from the religious right to actually do some good.

kane 04-18-2009 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 15759612)
It was rather interesting to see Republicans jump on this Tea Party and take it over. The same Republicans that were bashing Ron Paul left and right during the primaries.

yep. They bashed him in the election now suddenly he is the guy they look up to.

StickyGreen 04-18-2009 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 15759571)
Just curious how the Fed is privately controlled when it's Board of Governors are appointed by the President.

That's a pretty big can of worms to open up, I doubt I could do the explanation much justice with a few paragraphs on GFY.

The history of the Federal Reserve, the first two banks of the United States, and the Bank of England is a long and intricate one, even purposefully suppressed at times. If you really do care enough then you will take the time to look into it. Have you heard of the meeting on Jekyll Island off the coast of Georgia? That could be a good place to start.

If you want to control a nation from the top you do it by controlling their money. I think it was Nathan Rothschild who once said something along the lines of "I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire, ...The man that controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire. And I control the money supply."

Ethersync 04-19-2009 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 15759188)
I don't think most of the people on this board will ever get it. They still think it's a Right/Left Red/Blue thing. :Oh crap

Yeah, unfortunately :(

Ethersync 04-19-2009 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 15758344)


Yeah these were just GOP rallies :1orglaugh

This angle shows the crowd better...


IllTestYourGirls 04-19-2009 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 15759612)
It was rather interesting to see Republicans jump on this Tea Party and take it over. The same Republicans that were bashing Ron Paul left and right during the primaries.

It seems they are trying to control the Ron Paul people. I guess they really dont know what the Ron Paul people are all about and they are a very hard group to control.


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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 15759947)
This angle shows the crowd better...


Nice thanks

acrylix 04-19-2009 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 15759188)
I don't think most of the people on this board will ever get it. They still think it's a Right/Left Red/Blue thing. :Oh crap

Well, the Keith Olbermanns and Bill O'Reillys of the world do a good job at keeping fellow Americans at each others throats. Sad how many fall for it every time.

The left and right media really worked together nicely on this tea party thing. First, Fox News blatantly hijacked it, making it out to be "their" thing. It was then setup perfectly for their bed-buddies over at MSNBC to portray everyone anti-Fed/income tax as a bunch of Fox News, goosestepping, loons:



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