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Stephanie Hastert 04-12-2009 09:30 AM
2257 & True Amateur Content ? -- How is it possible ?
 
I would like to inquire concerning true, real, user submitted amateur content as it pertains to 2257 regulations.

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the visual depictions were created prior to November 1, 1990, or were produced, manufactured, published, duplicated, reproduced, or reissued before May 26, 1992.
I know for a fact that many if not a majority of all the amateur content was taken, produced and submitted well after 1992.

Mainly what these pay site owners do is strip / rip all the amateur content they can off the internet ( That has been saturated with the same content they offer in their members area ) and create a pay site that contains that same content.

How can they possibly prove all the images that are producing these webmasters profit were taken before 1992 ?
Basically they are saying all their content is 17+ years old ? I beg to differ!

Where is the 2257 documentation of the images that I know for a fact were taken well after 1992 ?

Why hasn't 2257 Record-Keeping compliance enforced this mandatory regulation ?

It's abundantly obvious their 2257 documentation doesn't exist as they hide behind a 2257 code these webmasters can not prove one way or another.

Seeing all this illegal website activity, does 2257 compliance really matter now-a-days ?

Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert

PS: If need be, I can throw many, many of these websites under the bus but I am sure we all know who they are.

quantum-x 04-12-2009 10:32 AM
It's possible.
We're completely compliant & legal, and all our content is amateur submitted.
Our ratios show it, too.

Today is $100PPS! - See sig ;)

Pleasurepays 04-12-2009 10:38 AM
your attempt to destroy the industry and bring much needed heat and attention by the DOJ and FBI will surely be appreciated by all.

keep doing the lords work and fighting the good fight!

god bless you and happy easter.

notime 04-12-2009 10:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephanie Hastert (Post 15735302)
If need be, I can throw many, many of these websites under the bus
You sound like Tony
http://www.bostondirtdogs.com/dirt%2...onySoprano.jpg

cykoe6 04-12-2009 10:49 AM
Ummmmmmm....... it is not possible obviously.

Stephanie Hastert 04-12-2009 10:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15735453)
It's possible.
We're completely compliant & legal, and all our content is amateur submitted.
Our ratios show it, too.
Ratios have absolutely nothing to do with it.

The question is :
How can you produce 2257 documentation from unsuspecting user submitted amateur images / content you've collected off the internet ?
You can not which in turn makes it illegal to profit off of such content. :)


Quote:
Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 15735461)
your attempt to destroy the industry and bring much needed heat and attention by the DOJ and FBI will surely be appreciated by all.

keep doing the lords work and fighting the good fight!

god bless you and happy easter.

It's not a attempt, it's a actual fact! :)
It's the fast dollar however you can make it with full disregard for regulations style of mentality is what draws the DOJ & FBI.
I am not sure what 'industry' you're referring to but my circle of this industry is very much legal.
quantum-x's website makes a statement of exactly what I am asking in this thread and I quote him :

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TeenGFs.com
The only legal, 2257 compliant real ex-gf / teen girlfriend website online!
Happy Easter to you too Pleasurepays :)

Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert

TheDoc 04-12-2009 11:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephanie Hastert (Post 15735302)
I would like to inquire concerning true, real, user submitted amateur content as it pertains to 2257 regulations.



I know for a fact that many if not a majority of all the amateur content was taken, produced and submitted well after 1992.

Mainly what these pay site owners do is strip / rip all the amateur content they can off the internet ( That has been saturated with the same content they offer in their members area ) and create a pay site that contains that same content.

How can they possibly prove all the images that are producing these webmasters profit were taken before 1992 ?
Basically they are saying all their content is 17+ years old ? I beg to differ!

Where is the 2257 documentation of the images that I know for a fact were taken well after 1992 ?

Why hasn't 2257 Record-Keeping compliance enforced this mandatory regulation ?

It's abundantly obvious their 2257 documentation doesn't exist as they hide behind a 2257 code these webmasters can not prove one way or another.

Seeing all this illegal website activity, does 2257 compliance really matter now-a-days ?

Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert

PS: If need be, I can throw many, many of these websites under the bus but I am sure we all know who they are.

That's a lot of 'theory' being tossed around... Clearly you have no idea how this part of the business works.

We have taken user submitted content for years, and we have the records for all of it. Like 100's of other legit sites that do the same thing. It's not all that hard to figure out, 10 different solutions to making it legal. At that, under the new laws - It's even easier for someone to run this type of content.

fris 04-12-2009 11:03 AM
teengfs doesnt "collect" the content like most amateur sites do, like seemygfs, the site by amakings, and plenty of others

It has all identification for every image, if it doesnt have id, the images wont be up.

TheDoc 04-12-2009 11:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephanie Hastert (Post 15735489)
Ratios have absolutely nothing to do with it.

The question is :
How can you produce 2257 documentation from unsuspecting user submitted amateur images / content you've collected off the internet ?
User submitted content is not the same as content collected off the Internet. One is legal, the other is illegal - due to theft & copyright violations - not 2257.

The new 2257 rules, I can steal content from 'some sources' and stay legal..

Deej 04-12-2009 11:06 AM
A handfull of these sites are legit. Others are scraped and not necessarily legal. But then again some of the owners and operators are not bound by 2257 since they live overseas.

you need to do more research before you think you can go "throwing them under the bus"

happy hunting...

Dirty Dane 04-12-2009 11:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephanie Hastert (Post 15735489)
The question is :
How can you produce 2257 documentation from unsuspecting user submitted amateur images / content you've collected off the internet ?
You can not which in turn makes it illegal to profit off of such content. :)
Illegal in US maybe, yes. But in most other countries you are are not guilty until proven otherwise.
One side is the legal part of it - the other is policy (payment processor, VISA, hosting etc.)

And how can you be sure/prove some content is produced after 1992, if you do not have the IDs yourself? :)

I know what you mean, but it is my impression that the paysites use "safe" content. What amaze me, is how the free pichosts and sharing communities can survive 2257 or other local laws.

HorseShit 04-12-2009 11:48 AM
The vast majority of these sites don't even operate in the US.

CyberHustler 04-12-2009 11:58 AM
First of all, who are you?

And, have we seen your tits yet? If not, then you need to get your priorities straight.

charlie3273 04-12-2009 12:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin (Post 15735607)
The vast majority of these sites don't even operate in the US.
And that is the biggest loophole of it all. Most sponsors I have are in greece or canada. But I do have content on my header and there for have the 2257 statement and documetation to back it up. :thumbsup

Stephanie Hastert 04-12-2009 12:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 15735479)
Ummmmmmm....... it is not possible obviously.
That is exactly what I thought!
For the reason I decided to create this thread.


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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 15735496)
That's a lot of 'theory' being tossed around... Clearly you have no idea how this part of the business works.

We have taken user submitted content for years, and we have the records for all of it. Like 100's of other legit sites that do the same thing. It's not all that hard to figure out, 10 different solutions to making it legal. At that, under the new laws - It's even easier for someone to run this type of content.

Correction sweetie, I know exactly how this area of the industry works.
It appears you think of yourself as being very informed. As a example, please explain to me how a webmaster can legally use my personal image (taken in my home) on his or her website and make a profit off of it without my consent ?
You stated '10 different solutions'.. please tell me just one using my example. :)


Quote:
Originally Posted by fris (Post 15735501)
teengfs doesnt "collect" the content like most amateur sites do, like seemygfs, the site by amakings, and plenty of others
Thank you!
You are clearly supporting my point with concern to the rogue fast dollar
totally illegal websites. :)



Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 15735508)
User submitted content is not the same as content collected off the Internet. One is legal, the other is illegal - due to theft & copyright violations - not 2257.

The new 2257 rules, I can steal content from 'some sources' and stay legal..

LOL, I think you misunderstood me.
Example : You own website A ... you're telling me you can legally use someone elses user submitted content from their website on your website and make a profit off of it ?

Oh really? With no 2257 documentation / The poor unsuspecting girl who is depicted in the image. Plz enlighten me of you can stay legal doing that ?



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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 15735512)
A handfull of these sites are legit. Others are scraped and not necessarily legal. But then again some of the owners and operators are not bound by 2257 since they live overseas.

you need to do more research before you think you can go "throwing them under the bus"

happy hunting...
Yes, a handful, a very small handful are legal. I am referring to websites based in the US using US based servers. What is more surprising is how CCBill allows this ?

Perhaps you can dabble in some research yourself. :)



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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 15735534)
Illegal in US maybe, yes. But in most other countries you are are not guilty until proven otherwise.
One side is the legal part of it - the other is policy (payment processor, VISA, hosting etc.)

And how can you be sure/prove some content is produced after 1992, if you do not have the IDs yourself? :)

I know what you mean, but it is my impression that the paysites use "safe" content. What amaze me, is how the free pichosts and sharing communities can survive 2257 or other local laws.

Well, one way I know I am very sure their content is post 1992 is for one obvious way. The photos are digitally dated like 2003, 2007, some from only a month ago. Quite simple really.
I know, pic hosts are another topic all in itself.

Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert

TheDoc 04-12-2009 01:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephanie Hastert (Post 15735660)
Correction sweetie, I know exactly how this area of the industry works.
It appears you think of yourself as being very informed. As a example, please explain to me how a webmaster can legally use my personal image (taken in my home) on his or her website and make a profit off of it without my consent ?
You stated '10 different solutions'.. please tell me just one using my example. :)




LOL, I think you misunderstood me.
Example : You own website A ... you're telling me you can legally use someone elses user submitted content from their website on your website and make a profit off of it ?

Oh really? With no 2257 documentation / The poor unsuspecting girl who is depicted in the image. Plz enlighten me of you can stay legal doing that ?
You may want to read what is actually going into law...

And what you are referring to, is theft, stealing, copyright issues... YOU need solve, and not rely on the Gov to solve your problems for you.

Stephanie Hastert 04-12-2009 01:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 15735807)
You may want to read what is actually going into law...

And what you are referring to, is theft, stealing, copyright issues... YOU need solve, and not rely on the Gov to solve your problems for you.
You are hysterical! :1orglaugh
Having someone using my image on a website was only a example. Perhaps you'll re-read that part. :)

So inform me.. and I use your own words :

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 15735508)
The new 2257 rules, I can steal content from 'some sources' and stay legal..
Perhaps you can point out the paragraph that legally allows you to do that?

Keep in mind I am referring to real amateur images submitted by innocent girls who in their wildest dreams never would imagined they would be displayed on a pay website.

I await your response. :)


Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert

mynameisjim 04-12-2009 01:33 PM
You need to look into how 2257 inspections are handled.

Stephanie Hastert 04-12-2009 01:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 15735839)
You need to look into how 2257 inspections are handled.

Sweetie, I've exhausted many hours reading countless pages of 2257 documentation..
You know what I discovered?
Not one 2257 page grants legal authority for the use of private non consenting images for profit.

Please, as I kindly asked thedoc, enlighten me with your wisdom so we can put this topic to rest. :)

I await your fantastic response too.

Deej 04-12-2009 02:12 PM
I have 'dabbled' way more than you ... I know all about it and who processes them.

Ive had those very conversations with the processors and I can see their legal obligation to process them until they are found to be working under any illegal operations.

I was mad at ccbill first too...

but i did my research and spoke to who does what...

So try again... and dig further...

Name one of those GF sites that is US based and served...

Stephanie Hastert 04-12-2009 02:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deej (Post 15735913)
I have 'dabbled' way more than you ... I know all about it and who processes them.
Oh really... First of all I do not know you from adam so how can you possibly know what I have researched, read, investigated and or had conversations with?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deej (Post 15735913)
Ive had those very conversations with the processors and I can see their legal obligation to process them until they are found to be working under any illegal operations.

I was mad at ccbill first too...

but i did my research and spoke to who does what...
I have done the very same thing!
Do you actually think I would create such a touchy topic on one of the most, if not thee most popular webmaster message board in the internet without doing my homework ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deej (Post 15735913)
So try again... and dig further...
So please, do not tell me what I need to be or should be doing.

Please answer my question or show me some proof to support the claims
that it is legal to make a profit off of non consenting content.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deej (Post 15735913)
Name one of those GF sites that is US based and served...
You mean to tell me you've chatted with all these people and processors concerning this very topic, PLUS you 'know way more than me' all without knowing of one illegal US gf website ? :1orglaugh
Thought you knew all about it ? :1orglaugh

Yes I know of quite-a-few but it seems nobody is answering my question. All I see is a lot of dancing around the original topic question. Respond to my question without thinking you know it all (which runs ramped on this board) and I will respond to yours.

Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert

quantum-x 04-12-2009 02:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephanie Hastert (Post 15735968)
I have done the very same thing!
Do you actually think I would create such a touchy topic on one of the most, if not thee most popular webmaster message board in the internet without doing my homework ?
Without trying to stir up drama - if you've done your homework, and sufficient research, I find it hard to believe that you're not aware that legal sites exist. There aren't many: couldn't be too hard to find. I don't recall seeing nor hearing from you before, so to the best of my knowledge, you've not contacted us.

With that in mind, and as has already been touched on in this thread: there are fairly obvious ways to run a legal operation.

You're not really probing into a 'sensitive issue' - this has been discussed ad nauseum for literally years on GFY.

I invite you to check out our program and send some traffic. We've got guys converting at 1:60 this period, on our $100 PPS day :)

Stephanie Hastert 04-12-2009 03:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15735999)
Without trying to stir up drama - if you've done your homework, and sufficient research, I find it hard to believe that you're not aware that legal sites exist. There aren't many: couldn't be too hard to find. I don't recall seeing nor hearing from you before, so to the best of my knowledge, you've not contacted us.

With that in mind, and as has already been touched on in this thread: there are fairly obvious ways to run a legal operation.

You're not really probing into a 'sensitive issue' - this has been discussed ad nauseum for literally years on GFY.

I invite you to check out our program and send some traffic. We've got guys converting at 1:60 this period, on our $100 PPS day :)

Why are you constantly trying to promote your website?

Sweetie, I have 35 gig's of true real amateur content that does not have any documentation!
Right now I am looking at well over 70CD's filled with Real amateur content. I have seen the interior of your website including your content and frankly I am not impressed!
All that your website offers is what any free amateur message board offers.. so! where did you acquire your documentation ?

This image of yours was made by a visitor on a adult message board I frequent!
He made quite a few and is very talented! Do you have documentation on that image ?
I hardly think so!

http://www.teengfs.com/tour4/images/...sing-cum-c.jpg

Care to continue ?
I wouldn't if I were you!

Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert

cykoe6 04-12-2009 03:22 PM
Damn........ either there is either a whole lot of stupid in this thread or people are pretty desperate to obfuscate the issue.

shermo 04-12-2009 03:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephanie Hastert (Post 15736051)
Why are you constantly trying to promote your website?

Sweetie, I have 35 gig's of true real amateur content that does not have any documentation!
Right now I am looking at well over 70CD's filled with Real amateur content. I have seen the interior of your website including your content and frankly I am not impressed!
All that your website offers is what any free amateur message board offers.. so! where did you acquire your documentation ?

This image of yours was made by a visitor on a adult message board I frequent!
He made quite a few and is very talented! Do you have documentation on that image ?
I hardly think so!

http://www.teengfs.com/tour4/images/...sing-cum-c.jpg

Care to continue ?
I wouldn't if I were you!

Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert
Perhaps the submission comes accompanied with the ID's of the models, as well as a signed/faxed copy of a release?

quantum-x 04-12-2009 03:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephanie Hastert (Post 15736051)
Why are you constantly trying to promote your website?
Because it's super awesome...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephanie Hastert (Post 15736051)
Sweetie, I have 35 gig's of true real amateur content that does not have any documentation!
Right now I am looking at well over 70CD's filled with Real amateur content.
..So what's your point? You've got content without documentation.. ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephanie Hastert (Post 15736051)
I have seen the interior of your website including your content and frankly I am not impressed!
All that your website offers is what any free amateur message board offers..
I'm sorry, when I looked up your info in our database, I came up blank. Kindly let me know what your username was... ?

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Originally Posted by Stephanie Hastert (Post 15736051)
so! where did you acquire your documentation ?
We've got Model Releases and IDs for all our content. If you'd been over our site with such a fine tooth comb, you'd have realised that. It's not exactly hidden.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephanie Hastert (Post 15736051)
This image of yours was made by a visitor on a adult message board I frequent!
He made quite a few and is very talented! Do you have documentation on that image ?
I hardly think so!
Post 'his' PSD or STFU. Seriously.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephanie Hastert (Post 15736051)
Care to continue ?
I wouldn't if I were you!

Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert
Our sites have withstood a lot more scrutiny than the likes of you (IE, lawyers, VISA and ID checks, not FUD and speculation) - and come out clean every time.

Isn't this what you started your thread for to find legit sites? Or were you just trolling to let us know about your non-id'd content?

There are a few hours left in our $100 PPS promo. Amuse-toi bien, mon 'tit garage a bites ;)

Daddy Big Nuts 04-12-2009 03:53 PM
Man...this is the best Sunday thread in a while.......

Stephanie Hastert 04-12-2009 04:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15736113)
We've got Model Releases and IDs for all our content. If you'd been over our site with such a fine tooth comb, you'd have realised that. It's not exactly hidden.


Post 'his' PSD or STFU. Seriously.
You STFU content thief!
All I see from you is a large mouth without one shred of proof!

http://thumbnails18.imagebam.com/325...1032525279.gif

Plus you spelled realized wrong! Seriously.


Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert

quantum-x 04-12-2009 04:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephanie Hastert (Post 15736166)
You STFU content thief!
All I see from you is a large mouth without one shred of proof!

http://thumbnails18.imagebam.com/325...1032525279.gif

Plus you spelled realized wrong! Seriously.


Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert
Wait.. that's your proof? I was taking you seriously up until now.

There's no convincing you. I know we pay our girls thousands of dollars a week for content, and I'm confident that come any inspection, we'd pass with flying colours, as we have under all previous scrutiny.

Seriously, latch onto one of the umpteen other sites out there that actually don't have content.

PS: Hey spelling nazi: I'm not American, 'realised' is spelled with an 's' ;)
I'm out, have a nice night.

Pleasurepays 04-12-2009 04:33 PM
as i always say... content should be seen... not heard. every time the content gets uppity, a train wreck of a thread ensues.

Stephanie Hastert 04-12-2009 05:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15736221)
Wait.. that's your proof? I was taking you seriously up until now.
Yes, that is my proof!
Not to mention that image was probably altered / created well before you created your website!
I was never taking you seriously because I know exactly what your website content consists of. The thing is you know that I know! :)

Quote:
Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15736221)
There's no convincing you. I know we pay our girls thousands of dollars a week for content, and I'm confident that come any inspection, we'd pass with flying colours, as we have under all previous scrutiny.

Seriously, latch onto one of the umpteen other sites out there that actually don't have content.
No there is no convincing me!
thousands of dollars a week for content LMAO!
Try surfing the internet for content.. oh wait, you already do! :1orglaugh

I suggested for you to not to continue but your inflated ego kept you coming back for more.
Your persistence added a nice blemish to your so-called reputation as well as your website!

Quote:
Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15736221)
PS: Hey spelling nazi: I'm not American, 'realised' is spelled with an 's' ;)
I'm out, have a nice night.
I realized that. Most Americans would have taken my indirect suggestion not to continue but that male ego is astonishing.

Hope you have a great evening too. :)

Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert

Deej 04-12-2009 05:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephanie Hastert (Post 15735968)
Oh really... First of all I do not know you from adam so how can you possibly know what I have researched, read, investigated and or had conversations with?



I have done the very same thing!
Do you actually think I would create such a touchy topic on one of the most, if not thee most popular webmaster message board in the internet without doing my homework ?



So please, do not tell me what I need to be or should be doing.

Please answer my question or show me some proof to support the claims
that it is legal to make a profit off of non consenting content.



You mean to tell me you've chatted with all these people and processors concerning this very topic, PLUS you 'know way more than me' all without knowing of one illegal US gf website ? :1orglaugh
Thought you knew all about it ? :1orglaugh

Yes I know of quite-a-few but it seems nobody is answering my question. All I see is a lot of dancing around the original topic question. Respond to my question without thinking you know it all (which runs ramped on this board) and I will respond to yours.

Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert
your agruments here are all harmlessly hypocritical... you are asking me not to assume like you assumed about me.

anyway... no biggie... whoever knows how much ever more dosnt matter...

keep on with your crusade, because i dont believe in content theft either...

TheDoc 04-12-2009 05:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephanie Hastert (Post 15735660)
Correction sweetie, I know exactly how this area of the industry works.
It appears you think of yourself as being very informed. As a example, please explain to me how a webmaster can legally use my personal image (taken in my home) on his or her website and make a profit off of it without my consent ?
You stated '10 different solutions'.. please tell me just one using my example. :)
Sweetie? That's a blessing for me on gfy... as for being informed.. Rather than ragging your ass, I will lend a hand..

You are crossing a problem called copyright with something unrelated called 2257.

2257 is about record keeping, however I don't need the record in my hands. Something you may want to look deeper into.

2257 has nothing to do with the rights of ownership, a different law covers that, called the Copyright Act.

The Copyright Act doesn't make it legal for people to steal and profit from you, but it sure as hell doesn't protect you either.

quantum-x 04-12-2009 05:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephanie Hastert (Post 15736285)
Yes, that is my proof!
Not to mention that image was probably altered / created well before you created your website!
I was never taking you seriously because I know exactly what your website content consists of. The thing is you know that I know! :)



No there is no convincing me!
thousands of dollars a week for content LMAO!
Try surfing the internet for content.. oh wait, you already do! :1orglaugh

I suggested for you to not to continue but your inflated ego kept you coming back for more.
Your persistence added a nice blemish to your so-called reputation as well as your website!



I realized that. Most Americans would have taken my indirect suggestion not to continue but that male ego is astonishing.

Hope you have a great evening too. :)

Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert
Dear Stephanie:
Please explain this:

From your own profile page on GFY, we establish you own nakedamateurs.org
http://ninjito.com/steph-1.gif

We see you're also a poster - interesting keywords, btw. 'Young Teens? Mom and son?' - fuck you.
http://ninjito.com/steff-2.gif

Incest? Charming. I guess all the content is legit though, right?
http://ninjito.com/steff-3.gif

Oh, I guess not. Nice to confirm you're an admin there.
http://ninjito.com/steph-4.jpg

I'm sure you've got 2257 for http://www.nakedamateurs.org/nude.html
And http://www.nakedamateurs.org/bbs3/index.php
And http://www.nakedamateurs.org/bbs3/viewforum.php?f=9
And http://www.nakedamateurs.org/bbs3/viewforum.php?f=7

Oh, and you have the licence for celebrity pictures too, right? http://www.nakedamateurs.org/celebrities.html

Oh, btw - even though I've moved servers a bunch of times since tour4 went up, you're still wrong:

http://ninjito.com/steff-5.gif - even the latest update to the tour was before your 'proof'.

I might be going out on a limb here, but google is pretty much full of your crap.

I think you're possibly the biggest hypocrite I've ever come across.

Edit: Nice site motto, too (in Thumbzilla font+colours, lol)
Quote:
AMATEUR PAYSITES ? WHO NEEDS THEM!
HERE AT NAKEDAMATEURS WE GIVE IT ALL AWAY!

mynameisjim 04-12-2009 05:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephanie Hastert (Post 15735857)
Sweetie, I've exhausted many hours reading countless pages of 2257 documentation..
You know what I discovered?
Not one 2257 page grants legal authority for the use of private non consenting images for profit.

Please, as I kindly asked thedoc, enlighten me with your wisdom so we can put this topic to rest. :)

I await your fantastic response too.
Wow, someone called me sweetie. I actually like that even if it was meant to be sarcastic.

But I'm not sure what you want to know? Do you want to know how they can get away with it or are you asking if it is totally legal. Obviously, nude pics without docs are not within the U.S. law, there is no question about that. What I meant was if you study how inspections are actually done you will see why they don't caught up in 2257 violations. As for copyright issues regarding using the photos, the horse left the barn on that one some time ago. If people can steal full movies from huge studios and nothing happens, I doubt little 18 year old Suzie has much recourse after she posts her pics on Myspace.

Pleasurepays 04-12-2009 05:42 PM
haha.. wow

thread closed!





(of course, she's nuts so she'll try to argue and be totally convinced she's right and making sense as she digs a bigger hole for herself)

quantum-x 04-12-2009 05:46 PM
Hey, you should learn to delete work in progress pages.
Final confirmation:

http://ninjito.com/steph-5.gif

Stephanie Hastert 04-12-2009 06:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 15736288)
Sweetie? That's a blessing for me on gfy... as for being informed.. Rather than ragging your ass, I will lend a hand..

You are crossing a problem called copyright with something unrelated called 2257.

2257 is about record keeping, however I don't need the record in my hands. Something you may want to look deeper into.

2257 has nothing to do with the rights of ownership, a different law covers that, called the Copyright Act.

The Copyright Act doesn't make it legal for people to steal and profit from you, but it sure as hell doesn't protect you either.
Yes! to me you are a sweetie! :)





Quote:
Originally Posted by Deej (Post 15736286)
your agruments here are all harmlessly hypocritical... you are asking me not to assume like you assumed about me.

anyway... no biggie... whoever knows how much ever more dosnt matter...

keep on with your crusade, because i dont believe in content theft either...

It's not necessarily a crusade. I was simply inquiring how some gf websites can offer Real amateur gf content without being the copyright holder nor having 2257 documentation. I've accessed many pay websites and noticed they offer the same exact content that I simply give away. I give it away due to the fact that I do not have any documentation for it. If I do not have documentation how do they ? They dont! Their 2257 page is trumped up and there is no custodian of records because there are no records!
How can they have records of a college girl that posted her dorm room pic way back in 2002 ? They cant!












LMAO @ quantum-x

Does it appear that I am actually trying to hide?

Why would I need 2257 documentation ?
I am not making a profit off of these images as you are..
I am not surfing the internet stealing images as you then deciding to create a members area... let alone the images I've posted have far better quality then is offered in your members area!

Yes! we simply give it all away! I thought of that myself!
Now you see what I mean.. why on earth would anyone in their right mind join a True amateur gf website when there is a vast amount of free content out there.

You offer stolen content for profit :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
You offer a curly hair girl standing in front of a sink in the bathroom ... Do you know she is 16 ? She resides in the state of Alabama ... I am sure you paid thousands of dollars for that too right ? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Enjoy the website .. it is quite fantastic to say the least! :)
Actually it's better than yours and it's FREE.. because we give it all away! :)


Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert

Deej 04-12-2009 06:14 PM
Quantum-X = :pimp

quantum-x 04-12-2009 06:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephanie Hastert (Post 15736417)
You offer stolen content for profit :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
You offer a curly hair girl standing in front of a sink in the bathroom ... Do you know she is 16 ? She resides in the state of Alabama ...

Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert
Are you insinuating what I think you're insinuating?
I don't give a fuck that you think we're not legit - but to say we push CP?

Fuck you. Rule 4.

Stephanie Hastert 04-12-2009 06:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deej (Post 15736418)
Quantum-X = :pimp
I have to admit, he's one of the coolest I've ever seen. Who would ever guess to search my screen name on google ?

Who would ever have guessed it would lead to me ? LMAO ... Let alone everything I type is ended with
Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert ... Wow! that is simply genius!

Wow ? he even discovered one of my work in progress pages that I like totally ditched!
Why would I want to delete any of my work ? I have killer bandwidth! :1orglaugh

It still doesn't explain how you can make a profit off of the stolen content you offer in your pay websites members area ?

Dont hate because you cant date ... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert
AKA Secret Squirrel :1orglaugh

Pleasurepays 04-12-2009 06:31 PM
[QUOTE=Stephanie Hastert;15736417]

Quote:
Why would I need 2257 documentation ?
you don't because you are not a US Citizen. But you really don't seem to understand that is the only reason you don't and you can't seem to separate any rights you have to content and 2257. they are two totally different issues.

Quote:
I am not making a profit off of these images as you are..
yeah... you are. every post, every page has ads on it. you send traffic to sponsors and you get paid. your site is ad supported. you use the content to drive traffic to the ads. in fact, you are the same goofy dumb ass that was harassing one of your sponsors on all the boards for not paying you.


Quote:
You offer a curly hair girl standing in front of a sink in the bathroom ... Do you know she is 16 ? She resides in the state of Alabama.
your site is full of the exact same. charging or not charging access doesn't limit any legal liability of you have or grant you any special rights or any rights at all, to the content as the person publishing the content or otherwise exercising direct editorial control over what is published.

Stephanie Hastert 04-12-2009 06:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15736443)
Are you insinuating what I think you're insinuating?
I don't give a fuck that you think we're not legit - but to say we push CP?

Fuck you. Rule 4.
No screw you!
You're a lier and I proved you to be a lier!
You should have just sat down like a good little boy!

Now take a good look around my website and notice all the content that is yet to be in your members area... Oh come on everyone, lets join quantum-x's website and review saturated content that's on just about every message board west of the Mississippi. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Click on some links ... even more fantastic content on my partners message boards. :1orglaugh

There is no way on earth you can compete with my content and partners.. absolutely no way!

Have a great evening all!


Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
http://thumbnails10.imagebam.com/325...1432534060.gif

quantum-x 04-12-2009 07:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 15736364)
(of course, she's nuts so she'll try to argue and be totally convinced she's right and making sense as she digs a bigger hole for herself)
You read the future!

Eric 04-12-2009 07:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephanie Hastert (Post 15736417)
Yes! to me you are a sweetie! :)








It's not necessarily a crusade. I was simply inquiring how some gf websites can offer Real amateur gf content without being the copyright holder nor having 2257 documentation. I've accessed many pay websites and noticed they offer the same exact content that I simply give away. I give it away due to the fact that I do not have any documentation for it. If I do not have documentation how do they ? They dont! Their 2257 page is trumped up and there is no custodian of records because there are no records!
How can they have records of a college girl that posted her dorm room pic way back in 2002 ? They cant!












LMAO @ quantum-x

Does it appear that I am actually trying to hide?

Why would I need 2257 documentation ?
I am not making a profit off of these images as you are..
I am not surfing the internet stealing images as you then deciding to create a members area... let alone the images I've posted have far better quality then is offered in your members area!

Yes! we simply give it all away! I thought of that myself!
Now you see what I mean.. why on earth would anyone in their right mind join a True amateur gf website when there is a vast amount of free content out there.

You offer stolen content for profit :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
You offer a curly hair girl standing in front of a sink in the bathroom ... Do you know she is 16 ? She resides in the state of Alabama ... I am sure you paid thousands of dollars for that too right ? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Enjoy the website .. it is quite fantastic to say the least! :)
Actually it's better than yours and it's FREE.. because we give it all away! :)


Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert
Making a claim such as this with zero proof is grounds for banning. Good Bye!

CyberHustler 04-12-2009 07:48 PM
:1orglaugh

Bye Bye!

d-null 04-12-2009 07:49 PM
do you ever get the feeling it might be a good idea to wipe your browser cache after opening some threads? :1orglaugh

SBJ 04-12-2009 07:56 PM
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh the twists in some of these threads are better than daytime soaps!

Stephanie Hastert 04-12-2009 08:34 PM
Perhaps a screen shot of his members area which displays such ?
Then I would be posting underage content!

If it's okay by admin, I will with-out hesitation post a screen-shot of it here!
Then he'll be investigated. The sad part is he doesn't even know whats displayed on his pages let alone uploaded on his server!
It's really quite sad.
Do you really want to test your luck again ?
I am advising you not to!

I am certainly not here to assist him in anyway!
I am not here to be your friend!
I care about what you think of me as much as you care what I say!

So you's can swarm around with your pirated DVD's.. stolen content, hidden secret tube sites, lies, threads claiming you have killer ratios when you haven't had a honest sale in days.. Acting like ya's have all the answers .. trashing people as most of you have a grave yard full of skeletons in the closet..
Vacations in Cancun have turned into running through your sprinkler in the back yard sweating like Al Bundy.. Fancy restaurants are now the drive-thru at Burger King..

I mean who do you think you're fooling ? For gods sake Steve Lightspeed chooses not to be around here anymore!
The days of Shanchez peeing off Zilla over a domain was classic!
Now it has come down to picking on Shap over his tube connection.
In your wildest dreams can any of you fly-by-night people match Shap's success!
Never will this message board be the same!
The new breed of webmaster is in town and the adult industry is a disaster!

Sincerely
Stephanie Hastert

PS: Coming this week I will be adding a down blouse section!
Surfers welcome! :)

NaughtyRob 04-12-2009 09:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 15735634)
First of all, who are you?

And, have we seen your tits yet? If not, then you need to get your priorities straight.
Exactly what I was thinking when I read the thread this morning.


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