hey fucktard content shooters
 

stop paying these whores 500 bucks for oral scenes... are you retarded.. there whores... you do that all of a sudden they think there rates are 500 for oral scenes.....



again I vote we all set a standard for rates for these stupid whores...

200 maybe 300 for oral scenes... tops....



all in favor say I

The economy's tough, offer em $12.

With current economy I say 250.00 sounds good for normal oral on a guy.
Sucking a fattie 300 minimum.
Doing gag puke scenes should be at least 50-100 less as your helping them with not having to do the whole finger down the throat weight control method.

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keep in mind without the whores you have no business model.

if you don't want to pay $500, kick her to the curb and move onto the next if there's a ready supply of half price bitches. otherwise it's supply and demand, deal with it. if they got what you want and you can't get it anywhere else, well the ball is in their court. it is afterall her ass, not yours.

i don't like that a new lambo runs $200k, doesn't mean any dealership is gonna give me one for half price for crying about it.

Have you ever thought about not shooting in LA? lol

Besides if i could pay the models 500 for an oral scene i absolutely would!
Keeps the cancellations to a minimum

In saying that i pay them waay less atm of course :winkwink:

shhhh he is just pissed as he cant afford the good models :1orglaugh

you must not be a content shooter...

it's the ads these guys run... 500 bucks for oral... thats just plain ole retarded... ive been shooting 8 years...

Reality is I am not participating in this conversation and I feel that paying them whatever the fuck I want to is well within my right and there are and can be very good reasons to pay more than others. I also know that such talks can be taken the wrong way and price fixing is not always looked at in the best light.

ive shot in LA.. many many times and 500 for oral there is retarded as well....

I can afford it... but im not paying "double price on a lambo just because I can afford it"

Why, if you have a kickass contract and want to secure fresh faces and a LOT fast, thats what i would do!!!
I have put adds out offering 10k for 7 days of shooting in the past

It's a ad. rofl.

Do you also believe you too can be a millionaire selling ACAI juice using google?

agreed...

and I can even argue that if you pay em more it will keep them exclusive as well.. ive played the whole game with these whores... pay em more tell em not to shoot with others.. blah blah....

but think how easy it would be to just have set rates....

everyone knows that In and out burger starts out at 12 bucks an hour... they get employees... it's a fucking BJ... fuck for 500 bucks ill start giving head... but 5 out in a day...

it's reatarded to pay a whore 500 bucks for BJ scene plain and simple.. I think any of the long time shooters will agree

i'm not a content shooter no, just saying man, that's the way it works. if someone is willing to pay $500, well they're gonna get the talent. you have two options, pay or don't pay. if they can afford to cut the $500 check, that's their business, and it keeps the talent coming back.

ow you can turn these girls who want $500 away and probably find other chicks for half the price. so what's the issue? maybe these half price throats aren't as good looking, i don't know. but if you turn the bitch down for $500 and she goes scraping elsewhere without luck, hell she might just come groveling back and accept your offer.

who knows. maybe the guys paying $500 are gonna lose their profit margin, go bankrupt, and you'll have those women crawling back. maybe the extra $250 they spent keeps the quality talent in their pool and increases that profit margin tenfold over yours simply by sparing a few extra bucks. maybe they are happy with less. maybe they're just porn saints doing it for the girls wellbeing for all i know. i dunno.

all i know is that it's simple economics, and if someone is willing to pay it, that's where the girls are gonna go. just like i'm not rushing out to drop $200k on a lambo, there's plenty of people who are. so i'm simply shit out of luck, left with two options. we're in the same boat. pay or don't pay. crying about it isn't going to make much difference in the outcome.

drunk? :1orglaugh

correct...

but why will they call my legit ads that offer a real price when fucktards offer fake prices give them the run around....

follow what I'm saying....

if there were set rates then all we'd have to post is

BJ scene and they know they are getting 250 or 300

thats the attitude that makes these guys keep paying it... it's just stupid

Hey im not saying i don't agree with you, it would be nice in a perfect world i suppose
Sadly its just not so....and in that case you have to do what you have to do.

I have been shooting for 9 years and never paid that much for a BJ though, US prices are hugely inflated.......it will change at some point soon i think!

Are you an idiot? Acai has made plenty of affiliates millions.

There'll never be a shortage of whores.
It's the pimps and the business model that needs adjustments from time to time.

far from right here bud, we are always looking for models and can never find enough.....at least of the good looking kind

no, you're just being stupid man. they are your competition. you may all line up together and have drinks, shake hands at a show, whatever. but in the end you are all competition. and if your competition feels they want to pay 4 times what you pay to keep the talent pool disinterested in you, that's the way it's gonna roll. supply and demand dictates value. suck it up princess...

Well, if little Johnny has $500 to give a whore, and little Bobby has $250 to give a whore, and little Suzy is the only whore on the street corner. How many whores does little Bobby have? :2 cents:

DirtyDanza I like you and all (even though I still dislike most of your content lol). You know how the government has been acting lately and in past year or two (do not care who is in charge). Now since you like making material that typically could get you on their radar in the first place, please visit a site like wikipedia and read up on price fixing - then rethink such public topics.

you have a fucked outlook on business... these are whores....

nothing more nothing less....

id rather give bonuses after the scene is shot... you have no idea how it works with whores... you offer them 500 they give you a 100 dollar scene... because there whores....

id rather offer up 250 then get a great scene and pay a little bonus in my envelope

I buy all apple products... apple no matter who has then product..

best buy, apple store, any authorized retailer all sells the product at the same price...


im not saying fix it...

but there should be rates...

oral scenes 200-maybe 400 maybe.. if they got a name..

b/g 400-600

anal 600 - 800

if multiple guys they get 100 bucks extra per guy...

I think it's YOUR outlook on business that is fucked.

You're just pissed off that bitches want more than you're willing to spend. TOUGH FUCKING LUCK. You know who I like to work for? WHOEVER PAYS ME THE MOST MONEY. Of course these chicks are gonna work for whoever makes the most money for them. Apparently you just ain't that guy, and it's pissing you off that your only option to get those girls is too pay more, or cross your fingers and hope they come back accepting your lower offer. If you competition is paying more, is happy with paying more, and is getting you all worked up, upset, and keeping girls that you obviously want out of your reach. I'd say this competition has got you right where they want you. No business is gonna start paying their employees less, because their competition says so. Why? So they can get it in their head to go work for someone else? If these people are paying twice what you pay, and can continue to pay these rates, they are obviously doing something right. Who knows what profit margint hey hold in comparison to your own. Otherwise they'll fizzle away and you'll have your talent coming back at the price you want to pay. In the mean time SUCK IT THE FUCK UP. Show me one industry where there is a set pay rate for employees. There isn't, because employers fucking compete for the employees.

And don't give me some "You're not a content shooter so you don't know shit" excuse. Because this has nothing to do with content, whores, or porn. This is just the way shit works. Welcome to the real world, you're welcome to join us again whenever you pull your head out of your ass...

Hahaha. Little Bobby gets Suzy for $250. Because Little Johnny, with double income, waits his time and spends money on the right "whore"..... or some shit like that.

All I'm saying is there'll never be a shortage of "content".

says the moron who has never shot a scene in his life...

ive forgot more on how to film content than you will ever know if you drop millions on consultation fees dipshit.... it's not the fact that I can't afford it.. A. I got a jew partner so that won't fly with him... B. there whores... I refuse to give a whore what she wants.. and any guy who's not a white knight with half a brain will not drop down to a whores level...

guys who pay that for oral scenes are amateurs in the biz and they don't know any better...

or they are just stubborn like you... either or

you have no idea what your talking about...

I understand your point.. you make a good point but sell that shit to someone else... maybe you can sell that to some amateur somewhere....

thats like letting girls husbands / boyfriends on the set... big no no... but I bet you will argue that with me too right? your going to say something like.. if it makes her comfy then let it happen... blah blah...

there are unwritten rules to this shit dood... maybe if you shot content you would know...

already we've had a HUGE content shooter come in here and agree with me.. Oliver has shot more scenes than I have he's been around much longer...

if he agrees then im on to something

in atl $150 to 200 is the norm. i agree $500 is nuts

Ok enough with the "whores" its starting to make you look like an unprofessional dick.
Ohh wait its gfy and alright here LOL

Dropping down to the whores level? err its your living man so guess you just fucking did

maybe 500 for a blowbang gag cumswallow shoot..not reg oral.

Pointless thread btw, im off :pimp

I blame the bigger companies of overpaying for scenes. for years the video companies were the biggest cheapskates. in come the internet n00bs who have in house people shooting and pay the first price they are quoted.

This has NOTHING TO DO WITH SHOOTING CONTENT. Shut the fuck up about shooting content already. This has to do with employers hiring employees. This is how things work. Some people pay more than others, most people will want to go to the guy paying more. They will expect to make that much once they have made it once. Maybe those guys are amateurs paying $500/scene, so what? In that case they go broke, the girls don't have anywhere to get their $500 gigs anymore and balance is restored. You got $250 bitches lined up again. Win for you. Maybe these amateurs do well paying $500, in that case good for them.

I AGREE WITH YOU. Fuck it sucks that some asshat is paying twice what you are and the employees want that rate now. That sucks, I get it. You're pissed off. No one is going to argue that. Not in any industry. Employers hate having to pay employees more, no shit.

Business is in constant competition to control the workforce. Your "whores" are an employee. Just like a brick layer, just like a baker, just like the kid who delivers the newspapers. They are no different at all. So quit trying to turn this into a "porn content thing". Because it is not. Once they've made a good price, they are gonna look for someone to match it. If there's no demand for them, well then they'll just have to settle for less again. But maybe, just maybe, someone else will snatch them up for that price. Maybe they will be happy to pay $50, and perhaps, just perhaps, they won't have to deal with their employer calling them whores, nigggers, or generally just thinking of them as a piece of shit. Hell, as an employee I have taken PAY CUTS in the past to work for companies where I get a little respect.

Regardless of your opinion, or your business model, supply and demand is going to dictate what these bitches makes. THAT is fucking business.

I'm going out to get hammered now, peace bitches.

Why even try? :upsidedow

"ok i confess i had to look just one more time lol"

it's an ad, not a ad...carry on ;)

Err, before I jet, why don't you just admit what this is really all about.

You hate seeing women making money, and you hate seeing women have the upper hand in the negotiation.

We all know you hate women...

I understand what your saying... I really do.. and if this were any conversation but content shooting... I would agree 100%...
but this is about shooting content... im not trying to undercut a designer... im not under cutting a programmer.. this is about content... if and when you start shooting content then you can argue the content game... it's a different world... like I tell people about living in vegas... all other rules go out the window here... when shooting content it's a circle dood...

figure this..

a hooker walks in a bar here in vegas and walks up to a whale.. he just won 50k on the tables from his 500 dollar buy in... he has no prob dropping 5k on the hooker.. so now this hooker thinks her rates are 5k when in reality you can go to a brothel and get whores much cheaper... and know damn well thats the rates...

same thing here...

a guy pays 500 all of a sudden the whore is brainwashed into thinking her rates are 500... when maybe only 1 out of 10 will pay that...

but she is stubborn.. we are stubborn.. it's haults shit.... and is just plain retarded

If you do not want to pay talent $500 for oral sex, find a model that will work in the price range that you pay. It is also never good to refer to the talent as whores. Those so called whores are what keep the industry going. If it is content that you are going to sell many times over, then $500 is not a lot of money. You also do not have to be a content shooter to understand what you are saying. Anyone that works in adult will get it.

me calling a girl a whore just means I like her...

and what else do you call a girl having sex for cash? last I checked it was a whore...

I mean no harm by it...

furthermore I don't sell my content... it's all exclusive to me....

and since when does a whore have a say in this convo? of course your going to be on the whores side... your a whore....

I do not hate you for it... I would defend my fellow content shooters as you defend your fellow whores

What part of whores. To accept payment in exchange for sexual relations, seems out of place?

I personally do not call them whores, sluts, or much of anything else that could be taken as derogatory but lets call a spade a spade.

and you want a woman to have the upper hand in any conversation?

thats sad you give the jew name a bad name

excatly brother....

I make no excuses for myself.. I'm a scumbag pornographer... girls who take payment to take clothes off are whores... it's not a bad thing but it's just a fact of life...

the best is when they refer themselvs to Models ... im always like what do you model ? Cock?

This whore says what she thinks and I don't give a shit what you think about it. Your posting is not defending content shooters, it is bitching about rates that you do not want to pay. Many content shooters have no issues with paying the talent their rates. What another content shooter pays a model is really none of your business. Isn't there a theater waiting for you? :2 cents::1orglaugh

True, but not all adult talent sucks a dick. He thinks taking your clothes off for shoots makes you a whore. Taking nude photo's does not made a model a whore. :2 cents:

The whole thread has been about girls who are taking cash to suck cock, not to prance around naked showing tits and snatch.

Technically though by definition it could easily be argued that a nude internet model is also a whore by either:
1. A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain.
2. A person considered sexually promiscuous.

Now 2 would often be caused by marketing or in the actual design of the site and the way she speaks etc on webcam.

I think you missed part of what he said in another post.

"girls who take payment to take clothes off are whores... it's not a bad thing but it's just a fact of life..."

I will never understand why some people feel the need to call the women that work in adult whores. Does that make the men pimps? Hopefully the talent will remember to not work with those people. When they have a shortage of whores, then they will watch how they behave. People say talent is a dime a dozen, so are content shooters. :winkwink:

I really think your off on that one and are thinking of the wrong person - plus using it as an insult just really goes to show your inner colors.

He does not like women, get it? Hell he has even admitted it.
Others may either have same issue and if you have not noticed many do call themselves pimps and other stupid ass shit. Fuck one of the most popular smileys on here is the pimp one and its in numerous program names and well fuck it look around. Then to add it mostly comes from advertising reps who do not even make, produce, or generate porn in any way sake or form.

Agreed.

Of course, you and I both know that a number of the ads listed are not even legit shooters.