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xxxdesign-net 03-15-2009 03:44 PM

Merkel calls for unannounced raids on homes of registered gun owners !
 
Merkel calls for unannounced raids on homes of registered gun owners to "ensure owners have their weapons and ammunition locked away" ....

Sounds reasonable...lol Next step, in a few years, gun confiscation.... Merkel says thank you gun registry :thumbsup


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BERLIN (AP) - Germany's chancellor called Sunday for greater government supervision of gun owners after a school shooting last week that killed 15 people.

The country's gun laws were already tightened after a 2002 school shooting in the eastern German city of Erfurt. But Angela Merkel said she favors further restrictions, such as unannounced visits by state authorities to ensure owners have their weapons and ammunition locked away.

"We must do everything to see to it that children do not get access to weapons," Merkel said in a radio interview.

Authorities say that Tim Kretschmer, the 17-year-old who went on a killing rampage at his former high school Wednesday, used one of his father's weapons to gun down his 15 victims.

The 9mm Beretta pistol was unsecured in his father's bedroom in violation of German law.

Also Sunday, hundreds of people in the small German town of Winnenden, where the school shooting took place, gathered for a church service to mourn the victims.

People continued to come to the school grounds to light candles or place flowers on a makeshift memorial that has grown by the day.

Kretschmer gunned down students and teachers at his former high school before fleeing on foot and by car, killing three more people, and eventually shooting himself in the head, police say.

Police say that during their investigation of Kretschmer's computer, they found horror films, violent video games and pornography featuring bondage. Some of the images showed naked, shackled women, police said.

Four days after the blood bath, investigators are trying to determine a motive in the case. They faced an early setback when they said Kretschmer had announced plans to attack the school hours beforehand on an Internet chat site. But they soon began to doubt the authenticity of the posting, and have not said whether the Internet posting was a hoax.

Most of Kretschmer's victims were female.

Of nine students killed, eight were girls, and all three teachers were women.

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J. Falcon 03-15-2009 08:24 PM

I say go get em

tony286 03-15-2009 08:25 PM

they dont play.

_Richard_ 03-15-2009 08:47 PM

"Police say that during their investigation of Kretschmer's computer, they found horror films, violent video games and pornography featuring bondage. Some of the images showed naked, shackled women, police said."

AND he owns pink socks.. the bastard.

SBJ 03-15-2009 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBR Richard (Post 15633529)
"Police say that during their investigation of Kretschmer's computer, they found horror films, violent video games and pornography featuring bondage. Some of the images showed naked, shackled women, police said."

AND he owns pink socks.. the bastard.

pink socks? NO WAY!! I hope the bastard gets the chair! :helpme:1orglaugh

PurrrsianPussyKat 03-15-2009 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBR Richard (Post 15633529)
"Police say that during their investigation of Kretschmer's computer, they found horror films, violent video games and pornography featuring bondage. Some of the images showed naked, shackled women, police said."

Ok.. Fair enough. But what medications was he on? Prozac? Ritalin? Etc.. notice that never ever gets any news play.

Mr Pheer 03-15-2009 11:50 PM

I hope the German people dont just stand by and let unannounced search warrants be served on their homes.

Surely they have more balls now than they did in the 30's.

JP-pornshooter 03-16-2009 12:43 PM

i would hate to be the police man going into a knowing armed mans house for a unannounced raid.. hopefully they are wearing bullet proof everything..

xxxdesign-net 03-16-2009 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 15633834)
I hope the German people dont just stand by and let unannounced search warrants be served on their homes.

Surely they have more balls now than they did in the 30's.


Exactly, gun confiscation happened in Germany in the 30's

DWB 03-17-2009 12:36 AM

You will be seeing this in many places in the world very soon I'm afraid. Then to step two which is to take them away. Any government with 1/2 a brain knows they must disarm their people before shit gets too bad and they take to the streets.

Dirty F 03-17-2009 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBR Richard (Post 15633529)
"Police say that during their investigation of Kretschmer's computer, they found horror films, violent video games and pornography featuring bondage. Some of the images showed naked, shackled women, police said."

AND he owns pink socks.. the bastard.

That is fucking horrible! That so explains the shooting.

Dirty F 03-17-2009 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 15638339)
You will be seeing this in many places in the world very soon I'm afraid. Then to step two which is to take them away. Any government with 1/2 a brain knows they must disarm their people before shit gets too bad and they take to the streets.

:1orglaugh

You are so fucking dumb its almost funny.

Maybe, just maybe it's proven over and over again civilians can't handle the freedom of having guns? Ever thought about that you dumb fuck? Just look at that shithole called the US. Its right there in the stats between all the 3rd world countries when it comes to gun crime.

Dirty F 03-17-2009 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net (Post 15636499)
Exactly, gun confiscation happened in Germany in the 30's

You people are insane.

What are you saying? Germany is preparing for ww3?

Seriously, what are you trying to say?

sperbonzo 03-17-2009 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15638842)
You people are insane.

What are you saying? Germany is preparing for ww3?

Seriously, what are you trying to say?

What they are trying to say is whenever governments want to take over total control they start by disarming a populace that may want to resist this take over.

Do YOU really trust governments to be the only ones with weapons in this world?




If so you must not know much history.



Good luck Germany.



:(

MaDalton 03-17-2009 06:49 AM

the ignorance is strong in this thread...

- (legal) weapons are already registered in germany since years - as is every (legal) gun owner

- there are laws how to secure your weapons at home

- the father of that kid broke the law by not securing a handgun and 4600 bullets

- they suggest inspections to make sure that weapons are stored in secure places

isn't that what all the gun owners always claim? that it's the person and not the gun that kills? and that every responsible gun owner keeps his weapons out of reach of children?

it's obvious that not every gun owner is as responsible as we wish and therefore i think inspections are absolutely fine.

and everyone that believes that a handgun at home has any influence on a political system or that this could be the start to something like a 4th Reich and WW3 is (sorry) an idiot.

Fletch XXX 03-17-2009 06:51 AM

edit: nvrmind this is german news

Fletch XXX 03-17-2009 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 15638872)
What they are trying to say is whenever governments want to take over total control they start by disarming a populace that may want to resist this take over.

Do YOU really trust governments to be the only ones with weapons in this world?




If so you must not know much history.


:(

I dont think DirtyF reads much of what he quotes or posts about to be honest. I visualize some pissed off drunk screaming at the screen everytime he posts lol he clearly didnt grasps what that was about...

pornguy 03-17-2009 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 15638339)
You will be seeing this in many places in the world very soon I'm afraid. Then to step two which is to take them away. Any government with 1/2 a brain knows they must disarm their people before shit gets too bad and they take to the streets.

Ha... That wont happen in the US without a battle in the streets..

When I lived in gainesville FL, we stopped by the neighbors one day. Went in, and they had 4 gun cabinets FILLED and had a Walk in safe in the floor with more.

Looked like a fucking gun store.


TRY taking their guns.

Fletch XXX 03-17-2009 06:59 AM

umm anyone who pays attn knows when americans take it to the streets we dont bring guns.

LA cops can barely contain mexican protests over drivers license let alone a pissed off population with weapons.

when 100,00 people hit the streets of AL you dont need weapons, the cops cant control it then, and not in the future, shit man cops down here can barely control the fights during Mardi gras, and like 9 people were shot during mardi gras this year alone LOL

if and when real civil unrest occurs, we dont need guns. In fact, I honestly believe most with guns will be shooting other americans and not taking part in the revolt. These gun enthusiats are often racists/paranoid, and if civil unrest occurs youll see them "we gotta take out the niggs" i fucking guarantee it. Anytime there has been martial law situation here in Louisiana, some innocent people get shot by gun toting "patriots."

Dirty F 03-17-2009 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 15638872)
What they are trying to say is whenever governments want to take over total control they start by disarming a populace that may want to resist this take over.

Do YOU really trust governments to be the only ones with weapons in this world?




If so you must not know much history.



Good luck Germany.



:(

:1orglaugh Like in Holland and the tons of other countries without guns you mean :1orglaugh

You pro gun freaks are crazy. The theories you come up with just so you can defend legal guns are insane...

John-ACWM 03-17-2009 08:50 AM

That is the way of the world,tragedies happen in order to learn something and act and...do nothing

sperbonzo 03-17-2009 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15639191)
:1orglaugh Like in Holland and the tons of other countries without guns you mean :1orglaugh

You pro gun freaks are crazy. The theories you come up with just so you can defend legal guns are insane...


I think that someday you will regret leaving all power in the hands of your government.... It will be too late then, of course.


Perhaps you've heard of Sarah Brady? She is the wife of James Brady, the press secretary to Reagan who was crippled in an assasination attempt on him.

She is at the head of the anti-gun movement in the US...


.... Here is a direct quote from her:

“Our main agenda is to have ALL guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.”





:disgust

xxxdesign-net 03-17-2009 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15638842)
You people are insane.

What are you saying? Germany is preparing for ww3?

Seriously, what are you trying to say?

what are YOU saying? lol Tyranny cannot happen anymore? Thats cooky? Must be a conspiracy theory? Smarten up and learn about history... :2 cents:

xxxdesign-net 03-17-2009 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 15639625)
I think that someday you will regret leaving all power in the hands of your government.... It will be too late then, of course.



Frank is the very defination of a sucker... thinks he knows it all, is barely informed and for the life of him couldnt possibly imagine powerful people wanting more control and power over a population... Nevermind if that has been a recurring theme over history... and is happening right now...

sortie 03-17-2009 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 15633834)
I hope the German people dont just stand by and let unannounced search warrants be served on their homes.

They won't.

That shit will spark a civil war in no time.

The raid will have the opposite effect as instead of having the guns locked
away in case of a raid they will take all guns out of lock to make sure they can
kill the fucking raiders.

Because the first raiders will be robbers who knock on the door and say police and then
laugh while people run to lock up all their guns like idiots.

JamesK 03-17-2009 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 15638872)
Do YOU really trust governments to be the only ones with weapons in this world?

Yeah, I do.

I trust the government more than a random whackjob that managed to get a license.

frank7799 03-17-2009 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBR Richard (Post 15633529)
"Police say that during their investigation of Kretschmer's computer, they found horror films, violent video games and pornography featuring bondage. Some of the images showed naked, shackled women, police said."

AND he owns pink socks.. the bastard.

They found the Bible as well in the house. I think thatīs why he did it.

xxxdesign-net 03-17-2009 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 15639069)

it's obvious that not every gun owner is as responsible as we wish and therefore i think inspections are absolutely fine.


Enjoy then! Maybe you should all ask for police to do unannounced raids on homes to see if theres any drugs inside... You gotta help the war on drugs!

Hawkeye 03-17-2009 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurrrsianPussyKat (Post 15633571)
Ok.. Fair enough. But what medications was he on? Prozac? Ritalin? Etc.. notice that never ever gets any news play.


Also, he was Jewish and was taught that all shiksas are whores. Then he couldn't handle it when the shiksas rejected him and taunted him.

frank7799 03-17-2009 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net (Post 15639716)
Enjoy then! Maybe you should all ask for police to do unannounced raids on homes to see if theres any drugs inside... You gotta help the war on drugs!

Thatīs he problem, exactly. You maybe enforce the laws by such inspections, but at the end of the day this is what leads into a totalitarian country.

UFGators2007 03-17-2009 09:53 AM

Good luck with all that!

sperbonzo 03-17-2009 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net (Post 15639716)
enjoy then! Maybe you should all ask for police to do unannounced raids on homes to see if theres any drugs inside... You gotta help the war on drugs!


exactly!!!




.

MaDalton 03-17-2009 10:04 AM

this thread makes me want to bang my head on the table. i will ignore it before i really start doing that

frank7799 03-17-2009 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 15639817)
this thread makes me want to bang my head on the table. i will ignore it before i really start doing that

Well, I feel you. But I really donīt want to get cops every now and then into my house for free coffee or so.:)

MaDalton 03-17-2009 10:11 AM

one final word (and a number): 2257 inspections

frank7799 03-17-2009 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 15639853)
one final word (and a number): 2257 inspections

The fact that those stupid 2257 inspections are alive doesnīt make those planned German inspections any better.:2 cents:

SykkBoy 03-17-2009 10:22 AM

No one ever wants to address the real issue with these school shootings: bullying

It's not like these kids who shoot up schools are happy-go-lucky types who just one day up and say "ya know, I think I'm going to kill a couple of my fellow classmates today". It's usually because they've been picked on and bullied so much that they feel this is their way to show their tormentors they have nothing left to lose...

sortie 03-17-2009 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 15639853)
one final word (and a number): 2257 inspections

More words. Who the fuck keeps 2257 at their home?

And what if you sold the guns last month, do they arrest you for "lying" that
you don't own guns so you don't have to show them to the cops?

How do they find all the locked up guns?
Do they look under the bed, in the closet, unfold your clothes.
"like to hide guns in a sweater in a dresser."

How many dressers do you have.

Do they actually have to see guns stored in your combination safe and
ask for the combination or can you open it yourself and put them in danger
since you can easily pull out a gun and start shooting?
And is a combination protected privacy that no court can force out of your head?


Somebody said :
"Hey, all my unlocked guns are in the floor board at the front door.
I lift up the door mat and start shooting. Cops have never looked there".

Did things get out of hand during the serch and the home owner was injured.
Law suit for $50 million, a jury full of gun owners fixed that problem.

Raise taxes to pay for all the over time spent conducting and processing raids.
Build some more jails, we don't just let them go free right??


On and on and on and on.


Can you say "Can of fucking worms" that most modernized countries are smart enough
not to open?

Dirty F 03-18-2009 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net (Post 15639658)
what are YOU saying? lol Tyranny cannot happen anymore? Thats cooky? Must be a conspiracy theory? Smarten up and learn about history... :2 cents:

Stop changing things around retardboy :1orglaugh

Lets look at the shithole countries where everyone walks around with a gun compared to first world countries like Holland where they don't.

Somehow i feel WAAAAAY safer knowing idiots like you don't all walk around with guns and only the military has guns.
I mean way safer.


Oh noes, ww3 is coming...and only countries where people have guns will not be involved... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You didn't go to school much did you? And if you did the only thing you read was about freedom of having guns and the bible right? :1orglaugh

Dirty F 03-18-2009 07:06 AM

xxx-retardation is saying that because Tyranny is possible (true, we just had 8 years of Bush) every person from every country should have guns.

Yup, that would make a saver world.

Once again you idiots are insane...

Dirty F 03-18-2009 07:07 AM

What's it like to be on the IQ level of a 15 year old girl?

Libertine 03-18-2009 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 15639625)
I think that someday you will regret leaving all power in the hands of your government.... It will be too late then, of course.


Perhaps you've heard of Sarah Brady? She is the wife of James Brady, the press secretary to Reagan who was crippled in an assasination attempt on him.

She is at the head of the anti-gun movement in the US...

.... Here is a direct quote from her:

?Our main agenda is to have ALL guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.?

:disgust

Bullshit :2 cents:

http://www.saf.org/pub/rkba/general/...iGunQuotes.htm


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