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Snake Doctor 03-12-2009 09:39 PM

Did Jim Cramer have his tail between his legs or what?
 
I don't understand why he even went on The Daily Show. He didn't stick up for himself at all.

He took a hell of a tongue lashing from Jon Stewart and apologized profusely.

This after whining all week long on the NBC channels that Stewart wasn't being fair.

He got friggin PWN3D.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_174503.html

uno 03-12-2009 09:40 PM

I can't wait till they release the full interview tomorrow. Apparently it went a bit long.

mozadek 03-12-2009 09:40 PM

Cramer is cool, I cant stand that rat faced Prick Santeli.

CDSmith 03-12-2009 09:59 PM

I'll never understand these fools who make bold statements on-air, then weeks later try to deny they said it or try to spin it some other way. This Cramer guy for instance has been making himself look like a complete idiot, how can he not know his shit is on tape?

Seriously, instead of crying about unfairness he should have manned up and admitted he was out to lunch on the "prediction" and he'd have been much further ahead.

Now he just looks foolish.

And this... ha ha...
Quote:

"In his opening, Stewart announced that it was "go time." He played a video clip of Cramer's Thursday guest appearance on "The Martha Stewart Show" in which Cramer beat a mound of dough, pretending it was Stewart.

Said Stewart: "Mr. Cramer, don't you destroy enough dough on your own show?""
:1orglaugh

pocketkangaroo 03-12-2009 10:03 PM

He got fucking annihilated by Stewart. I don't know if Cramer was blindsided or what, but I almost felt bad for him at the end.

CDSmith 03-12-2009 10:48 PM

All kidding aside, Jon Stewart is usually all fun and games (but very cutting to the bone with the humor, but in a fun way), and Cramer probably should have just let it go and laughed it off earlier in the week. But if you push the issue knowing that JS has you dead to rights and you actually go on the show and confront the guy you are going to get owned.

Result: he got owned. And deservedly so. He is watched by millions and he is basically fucking with people's money and their livelihoods. Stewart is simply holding him and guys like him AND their networks accountable for their "loose" behavior on-air.

Behind the funny guy political satirist there's a very sharp dude that is no pushover, as that guy Tucker Carlson & co. on the former CNN show "crossfire" came to find out. They were all smug and condescending and ol' Jon ripped them all a new one.

Ozarkz 03-12-2009 10:53 PM

What is Cramer a paid pawn?

No other explanation.

Splum 03-12-2009 10:57 PM

Jon Stewart is a fucking asshole, like he really gives a fuck about any of the shit he talks about. Lemmings.

mynameisjim 03-12-2009 11:05 PM

Cramer is a good guy I think. Maybe he realizes that he gambled too hard with his viewers money.

For him, he's a money guy and understands there are risks. I think his viewers forgot about that.

Truth is, he thinks like a true market guy which means if he wants to make 100 million in the stock market, he is probably going to actually make 300 million but lose 200 million during that same period. Which is how the big players do it. Mom and pop watching at home don't realize that's how the game is played. Huge losses are very normal.

Cramer is a trader, not an investor. There is a big difference.

dig420 03-12-2009 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15622131)
Jon Stewart is a fucking asshole, like he really gives a fuck about any of the shit he talks about. Lemmings.

you know what? You are such an ignorant, talkative tool that I'm putting you on ignore. And I don't do that very often. I think you are number 3 since I joined this board, and the other two were assholes who were into gore clips.

Splum 03-12-2009 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 15622162)
you know what? You are such an ignorant, talkative tool that I'm putting you on ignore. And I don't do that very often. I think you are number 3 since I joined this board, and the other two were assholes who were into gore clips.

Aww did I offend your jewish butt buddy, so you got mad like some little bitch? Glad Im on ignore or you might be offended by that statement. :thumbsup

pocketkangaroo 03-12-2009 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 15622155)
Cramer is a good guy I think. Maybe he realizes that he gambled too hard with his viewers money.

For him, he's a money guy and understands there are risks. I think his viewers forgot about that.

Truth is, he thinks like a true market guy which means if he wants to make 100 million in the stock market, he is probably going to actually make 300 million but lose 200 million during that same period. Which is how the big players do it. Mom and pop watching at home don't realize that's how the game is played. Huge losses are very normal.

Cramer is a trader, not an investor. There is a big difference.

I don't even think Cramer was the main target though. He was mocking the whole network. That they pretend to journalists but end up as mouthpieces for these crooks. That they act like they are a network for the average investor but are really just puppeting the big guy's agenda.

I don't think Cramer is a bad guy. He's just an analyst who gives his opinions. He's wrong a lot and I'm sure he's right a lot too. Anyone who invests in a stock strictly because a loud mouthed entertainer told them to is stupid.

Splum 03-12-2009 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 15622214)
Anyone who invests in a stock strictly because a loud mouthed entertainer told them to is stupid.

...and anyone who thinks a loud mouth entertainer like John Stewart really fucking cares about the average person is equally as stupid.

Penthouse Tony 03-12-2009 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15622220)
...and anyone who thinks a loud mouth entertainer like John Stewart really fucking cares about the average person is equally as stupid.

Doesn't matter if he cares or not. What he said about Cramer and CNBC is right.

Splum 03-13-2009 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF (Post 15622283)
Doesn't matter if he cares or not. What he said about Cramer and CNBC is right.

Yes because John Stewart isnt rich, doesnt own stock and doesnt play the market. :error

mynameisjim 03-13-2009 12:33 AM

John Stewart and the Daily Show is right though.

I watched CNBC almost daily for a while but sometime early in 2008 I just couldn't stomach it anymore. Kudlow got so right wing he sounded like a nutjob. Maria Bartiroma was flying on corporate jets with CEOs. It really became a love fest between the channel and big business.

They needed to be called out.

uno 03-13-2009 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15622131)
Jon Stewart is a fucking asshole, like he really gives a fuck about any of the shit he talks about. Lemmings.

He does give a shit. :2 cents:

Splum 03-13-2009 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno (Post 15622394)
He does give a shit. :2 cents:

He only cares about money.

KillerK 03-13-2009 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15622405)
He only cares about money.

Stick to Obama man you are right on the money on that shit, you are getting owned in this thread.

brand0n 03-13-2009 02:23 AM

cramer is entertainment if you take him for more then you are the fool

james_clickmemedia 03-13-2009 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 15622350)
John Stewart and the Daily Show is right though.

I watched CNBC almost daily for a while but sometime early in 2008 I just couldn't stomach it anymore. Kudlow got so right wing he sounded like a nutjob. Maria Bartiroma was flying on corporate jets with CEOs. It really became a love fest between the channel and big business.

They needed to be called out.

Saw the same swing myself.
I also found that I was not that objective about the markets watching it too much.. Think one gets a better perspective from the outside looking in sometimes.

SomeCreep 03-13-2009 02:28 AM

Cramer knows how to make money in bull markets, but in bear markets he gets his ass handed to him.

Splum 03-13-2009 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 15622493)
Stick to Obama man you are right on the money on that shit, you are getting owned in this thread.

You people act as if he is a serious news guy exposing shit. :1orglaugh
Dude makes 14 mill a year he dont give a fuck about you, he just wants to say shit you want to hear, all the while deflecting the real problem... the White House.
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/53/...wart_JZY4.html

ADL Colin 03-13-2009 02:50 AM

He got schooled. That was embarrassing. Apparently Cramer is a big Jon Stewart fan. He said earlier in the day that he was "Nervous".

He fucked up going on the show.

Snake Doctor 03-13-2009 07:39 AM

I don't understand why he agreed to go there.

He should have just laughed it off after the first joke on Monday and it would have went away.

He looked like me sitting in the principal's office in 4th grade after I threw a smoke bomb into the girl's bathroom.

tony286 03-13-2009 07:44 AM

Jon was doing that for his mom.Which is very admirable, he has got my respect.Also it shows you there is no liberal media its all corporate media. That the comedy channel has to be one doing this.

CDSmith 03-13-2009 08:47 AM

Splum should go on the Daily show and call Jon Stewart out.

Splum 03-13-2009 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15623259)
Jon was doing that for his mom.Which is very admirable, he has got my respect.Also it shows you there is no liberal media its all corporate media. That the comedy channel has to be one doing this.

He did it for the children! Lol you people make me puke. :1orglaugh

You do know that Comedy Central is owned by Viacom? :error:1orglaugh

Go back to your fantasy world dude.

Agent 488 03-13-2009 08:56 AM

the real story is how cramer manipulates the markets with his show. until they touch on that, it's just a smoke screen.

robfantasy 03-13-2009 09:01 AM

anyone who basis their investment decisions soley on something they saw on mad money deserve to have their money taken.

fuck jon stewart for setting up cramer like that what a peice of shit

Phoenix 03-13-2009 09:06 AM

omg...the only night i miss that show

Bryan G 03-13-2009 09:07 AM

Splum is comedy gold LMFAO!!!

I see your back again my man, off the meds???

StuartD 03-13-2009 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 15623527)
anyone who basis their investment decisions soley on something they saw on mad money deserve to have their money taken.

fuck jon stewart for setting up cramer like that what a peice of shit

Yes, that's smart rationale.
Jim Cramer is wrong, but those who make money decisions SOLELY on his wrong info are the ones at fault.

And Jon Stewart is a terrible person for calling him out on being wrong. A republican would never do such a horrible thing!!

You and splum and your kind are just too much :1orglaugh

Penthouse Tony 03-13-2009 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15622310)
Yes because John Stewart isnt rich, doesnt own stock and doesnt play the market. :error

Who cares if Jon Stewart owns stocks or plays the market. Cramer is irresponsible and CNBC does more PR than reporting.

CDSmith 03-13-2009 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 15623527)
fuck jon stewart for setting up cramer like that what a peice of shit

Cramer set himself up. Only someone with their head up their own ass would think this was all Jon Stewart's doing.

Did you even watch the clips he showed of Cramer speaking?

StuartD 03-13-2009 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15622220)
...and anyone who thinks a loud mouth entertainer like John Stewart really fucking cares about the average person is equally as stupid.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15622310)
Yes because John Stewart isnt rich, doesnt own stock and doesnt play the market. :error

Are you trying to argue the fact that Stewart owned Cramer or just talking out of your ass for the sake of hearing yourself?

Your conversations have no rhyme or reason, it's like someone could tell you the grass is green and you respond with "The grass doesn't care about the average person."

Splum 03-13-2009 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF (Post 15623592)
Who cares if Jon Stewart owns stocks or plays the market. Cramer is irresponsible and CNBC does more PR than reporting.

Do you notice the disclaimers before and after his show?

Azoy? 03-13-2009 09:22 AM

i never liked the guy. he seems like he is always on drugs and i can't stand his attitude.

CDSmith 03-13-2009 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15623616)
Do you notice the disclaimers before and after his show?

Of course, and what that tells me is that while the network doesn't take responsibility for what may or may not be said on the show it also says that they aren't keeping Jon on a leash.

These days there are disclaimers for everthing. Look at your average TV drama series... every network runs a disclaimer at the end of every single commercial break. All it is to me is annoying.

Andy CHOOPA 03-13-2009 09:31 AM

He shouldn't have gone on there. He has zero ammunition against Stewart. What can you say against a show that is purely satire?

Snake Doctor 03-13-2009 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 15623527)
anyone who basis their investment decisions soley on something they saw on mad money deserve to have their money taken.

fuck jon stewart for setting up cramer like that what a peice of shit

Not that things like facts and reality matter to you....but Stewart's point overall was that the financial news media should have been a watchdog, should have been our first line of defense against some of the shady shit that was going on....and instead they were nothing but cheerleaders and mouthpieces for CEOs.

His intent was never to single out Cramer, but then Cramer fired back, and then they got into a back and forth.

The whole purpose of the press, and the reason their freedom is guaranteed in the constitution, is that they expose corruption and speak the truth to power.
The financial media failed miserably in this current crisis the way the mainstream media failed miserably in the run up to the Iraq war. :2 cents:

Agent 488 03-13-2009 09:56 AM

there are some good expose's about cramer online, about how he used the media to manipulate the market for him and his cronies, and their ties to organized crime.

this guy isn't simply a "corporate cheerleader."

Matt 26z 03-13-2009 10:21 AM

Wall Street is public enemy number 1 in tough times. You can even go back to depression era gangsters, whom the public was actually quite fond of because they were targeting banks. Cramer vs. Stewart is just a modern day version of that.

It's funny because nobody had a problem with the system when the little investor was making a lot of money for more than 10 years straight. Nobody has a problem with the 401k's that were cashed out up until 2008 at huge profits. A lot of money was made by people on all levels.

Yeah, the fall hurt. But to blame some TV news station for not warning people it was coming is just ridiculous.

Penthouse Tony 03-13-2009 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 15623899)
Wall Street is public enemy number 1 in tough times. You can even go back to depression era gangsters, whom the public was actually quite fond of because they were targeting banks. Cramer vs. Stewart is just a modern day version of that.

It's funny because nobody had a problem with the system when the little investor was making a lot of money for more than 10 years straight. Nobody has a problem with the 401k's that were cashed out up until 2008 at huge profits. A lot of money was made by people on all levels.

Yeah, the fall hurt. But to blame some TV news station for not warning people it was coming is just ridiculous.

Did you watch the clips? "You can't create yourself an impression that the stock is down. But you do it anyways because the SEC doesn't understand it."

Do you want people on your financial news network saying things like that? Cramer could have exposed this but they didn't.

mynameisjim 03-13-2009 12:01 PM

After watching the whole interview, I have to say John Stewart came off like a self righteous douchebag. I'm a big fan of the daily show, been watching it since the beginning when Craig Kilborn hosted it, but I got a little irritated with Stewart.

Cramer is a not a news guy. Those clips they showed where Cramer talked about manipulating the market, those were public clips, not some hidden camera footage. Cramer did expose the insider tricks.

If you read and watch Cramer you will get more of an idea of the back room stuff that really drives the market than from any other source. John Stewart came off as a some Utopian fool thinking the two markets are this giant evil that he has uncovered, one that the public sees and the one that goes on in smoke filled board rooms. WAKE UP! That's how the whole world works!!!

CNBC isn't really a news network the same way FOX isn't a news network. But if you used CNBC you could actually make money. They reported on what news was moving the market. It wasn't real, but it doesn't fucking matter, it was moving the market so as an investor, you needed to know that information whether it was bullshit or not.

CDSmith 03-13-2009 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 15624303)
After watching the whole interview, I have to say John Stewart came off like a self righteous douchebag.

Interesting take.

I on the other hand think he came off like a guy taking a self-riteous douchebag to task, largely because the self-riteous douchebag asked for it.

I'm staying tuned because I can't wait for next week's exciting episodes where even MORE douchebaggery will be revealed. :D

Puremeds-J 03-13-2009 12:15 PM

Jim Cramer is a fucking dipshit

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WAi2txkagV...jim_cramer.jpg

BradM 03-13-2009 12:17 PM

StuartD: The grass doesn't care about the people.

PornHero 03-13-2009 02:24 PM

Jim Cramer got busted bigtime. I think some PR person gave him some good advice and told him not to even try arguing with Jon Stewart. Funny how he suddenly decided to go on Martha Stewart to get in front of the exact opposite audience that watches his Mad Money show... talk about milking it for whatever he can...

I dont think I am going to be buying stocks for a looong time lol...

Jim Cramer explains how he illegally manipulates a company's stock price:

collegeboobies 03-13-2009 02:26 PM

he is a pussy despite the yelling he does on his show


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