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CDSmith 03-04-2009 01:15 PM

So the trial of the "Manitoba bus beheader" guy is on this week
 
And sure enough, defense is playing the "He's not criminally responsible for his actions due to insanity" card.

And it looks like they may be selling it with some success.

http://www.winnipegsun.com/news/mani...f-8627041.html

Personally I'd be just fine if they took him out back of the courthouse, administered 50 lashes and then hung him. But that's just me, mr take-out-the-fucking-trash-already.

No, better to let the guy off the hook so after 10 or 15 years of useless "therapy" he can be let loose to gut someone else like a fish. Hopefully the victim isn't one of the defense lawyer's kids, how poetic would that be?

Hazlewood 03-04-2009 01:18 PM

i agree, hang the fuckin lowlife

Phoenix 03-04-2009 01:28 PM

so a cosy room with no real criminals to fuck him over

yeah...the cops on the scene should have just shot him dead...it was probably what he wanted anyway

Itchy 03-04-2009 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 15582270)
And sure enough, defense is playing the "He's not criminally responsible for his actions due to insanity" card.
Personally I'd be just fine if they took him out back of the courthouse, administered 50 lashes and then hung him. But that's just me, mr take-out-the-fucking-trash-already.

Just shoot the fucker a few times make it go slowly!

cherrylula 03-04-2009 01:39 PM

So how out of your mind does one need to be to actually behead a guy on a bus...

Vicious_B 03-04-2009 01:41 PM

I undertand the guy is sick but he did kill someone! He deserves something for that, not a vacation.

8 Characters 03-04-2009 02:01 PM

If there were more 'sick' people in the world, it is us, rational people who would be considered 'sick'.

Magnus 03-04-2009 02:02 PM

He supposedly ate the guys eyes and police reports said there was a chunk of the heart missing, presumably he took a bite and parts of the body were all over the bus.
SANE?

Let's hope he gets mop duty in the Psych prison and some equally insane inmate makes a name for himself taking him out.

DrChango 03-04-2009 02:07 PM

why not just sentence him to an asylum for the criminally insane for the rest of his life? If he is truly batshit crazy, I don't think executing him is kosher, but he should never set foot outside a psych ward for the rest of his life.

BlackCrayon 03-04-2009 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DrChango (Post 15582577)
why not just sentence him to an asylum for the criminally insane for the rest of his life? If he is truly batshit crazy, I don't think executing him is kosher, but he should never set foot outside a psych ward for the rest of his life.

oh im sure he'll be going to a psych ward but they are never put there 'for the rest of their lives'. they have to say he will be released when he is deamed no longer a threat to others. who knows how they determine that exactly. not to mention budget cuts often mean they ease up on the criteria for letting these guys loose to free up space.

cherrylula 03-04-2009 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 8 Characters (Post 15582536)
If there were more 'sick' people in the world, it is us, rational people who would be considered 'sick'.

hey that sounds like my life sometimes. :1orglaugh

Fletch XXX 03-04-2009 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnus (Post 15582549)
He supposedly ate the guys eyes and police reports said there was a chunk of the heart missing, presumably he took a bite and parts of the body were all over the bus.
SANE?

cannabilism does not mean yuou are insane, plenty of american cannibals have been found guilty without being found insane...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer

cannibals are in fact, usually very sane people.

cherrylula 03-04-2009 02:17 PM

was he on some sort of psycho drugs?

they should run tests on these people, he is obviously quite the example patient if he was on meds.

CDSmith 03-04-2009 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicksMichele (Post 15582393)
I undertand the guy is sick but he did kill someone! He deserves something for that, not a vacation.

He not only killed the guy, but ate some of his flesh. He also walked to the front door of the bus (which was closed by then) and held up his victim's head to onlookers, and just stood there staring at them... holding up the guy's dripping head.

Shooting is too quick for this fuck.

BigDickDFromCincinnati 03-04-2009 04:23 PM

eye for an eye tooth for a tooth

CDSmith 03-04-2009 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDickDFromCincinnati (Post 15583538)
eye for an eye tooth for a tooth

Head for a head?

I like your line of thinking.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-04-2009 04:43 PM

CUT HIS FUCKING HEAD OFF....

for real, televise that shit...

notoldschool 03-04-2009 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 15583640)
CUT HIS FUCKING HEAD OFF....

for real, televise that shit...

:2 cents:

donkevlar 03-04-2009 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15582647)
cannabilism does not mean yuou are insane, plenty of american cannibals have been found guilty without being found insane...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer

cannibals are in fact, usually very sane people.


Uhm.. but would you not DEFINE someone NOT being sane by their actions? Regardless of medical definitions, people who eat and behead people are insane whether they like it or not.

Spunky 03-04-2009 10:11 PM

Our justice system is a joke,he will get thrown in some institution for a couple years .human life is worth shit in Canada

DirtyDanza 03-04-2009 10:12 PM

the cops should have shot him.... on the spot

Iron Fist 03-04-2009 10:25 PM

Hey CDSmith... are we playing guess the religion?

ExLust 03-04-2009 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 15584971)
the cops should have shot him.... on the spot

:2 cents:

jakethedog 03-04-2009 11:16 PM

personally I like the "lashings" then hanged .. administer some serious pain for a while before killing .. that is great and should be considered in all death sentences ..

jmcb420 03-04-2009 11:23 PM

I cant believe their are people who want this guy to live.
We have zero problem putting down bad dogs, this should be no different.

Iron Fist 03-05-2009 12:04 AM

Here is the transcript of the actions of Vincent Li..

http://blog.canoe.ca/raisinghell/200...ry_of_vince_li

CDSmith 03-05-2009 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donkevlar (Post 15584795)
Uhm.. but would you not DEFINE someone NOT being sane by their actions? Regardless of medical definitions, people who eat and behead people are insane whether they like it or not.

The question is, does someone like that deserve no punishment for their heinous crime? All that does is set the stage so that other people can murder someone and then claim the same defense. "It's not their fault, they are insane, they aren't responsible for their actions"

Bullshit.

This fuckstick should never see the light of day again. Even if they give him life in an institution (if not prison, which I doubt at this point) it's a crime that he gets to continue to breath the same air as the rest of us. At this point it really isn't about being a deterrent or even punishment, it's about ridding society of a POS that has no redeeming value whatsoever before he has the chance to kill someone else. Who's to say he won't find a way to off someone inside whatever institution they send him to?

I say let him swing, then bury him in a landfill.

John-ACWM 03-05-2009 07:54 AM

Punishment for the criminals :winkwink:

Fletch XXX 03-05-2009 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donkevlar (Post 15584795)
Uhm.. but would you not DEFINE someone NOT being sane by their actions? Regardless of medical definitions, people who eat and behead people are insane whether they like it or not.

I am not a doctor, i dont define what insane or sane is, but the fact is, people that eat other people are very often not insane.

No one here studies killers or cannibals so none of us can diagnos people, however, there are many cannibals in human history and out of them, many are found to be totally sane people. As I showed you, Jeffrey Dahmer, no one said he was insane lol well maybe some, but fact is, he wasnt

CDSmith 03-05-2009 08:00 AM

Judge's decision is coming out in less than 2 hours now.

This should be good.

Vicious_B 03-05-2009 08:39 AM

The thing is if this guy goes to a psych hospital, gets good with his meds and is deemed "safe" who is going to babysit this guy for the rest of his life to make sure he stays "safe"

I had a neighbor who was severely schizophrenic (which I did not know when I first moved in). After her and her boyfriend broke up she went off her meds and started doing all sorts of crazy shit. Long story short, ended up arrested, and I had to testify to have her put back in the psych hospital. Found out some of her history and learned 3 times before had gone off her meds and in one instance stabbed her own brother and in another threw herself in front of a car. She was fine on her meds but obviously had times when she decided on her own that she didnt need them and thats when she got crazy and violent.

So if they "cure" this guy and let him out in society where is the guarentee that he will never have another episode? The guy is sick but it is criminally negligent IMHO to allow someone like that out on the streets again.

Iron Fist 03-05-2009 08:54 AM

Insanity should get you locked up until you are sane, and then you should go directly to trial once your deemed sane. No free ticket. Ever.

pornguy 03-05-2009 09:02 AM

Me, I would be happy to see them take his ass out back and cut his head off.

An eye for an Eye.

But thats Me. Mr. take-his-ass-out-back-and-cut-his-head-off.

CDSmith 03-05-2009 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 15586483)
Me, I would be happy to see them take his ass out back and cut his head off.

An eye for an Eye.

But thats Me. Mr. take-his-ass-out-back-and-cut-his-head-off.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


:thumbsup

CDSmith 03-06-2009 06:40 AM

Well, there it is, it's in... http://www.winnipegsun.com/news/winn...47376-sun.html

"It was a verdict Tim McLean's family knew was coming, one they didn't want to hear.

Before a packed courtroom yesterday morning, Justice John Scurfield ruled Vincent Li not be held criminally responsible for stabbing, dismembering and decapitating McLean aboard a Greyhound bus last summer.

The decision means Li will not be going to jail, but a mental institution."



Unbelievable. Yet... not surprising. Typical, definitely.


"McLean's family is calling on the federal government to pass a new law requiring mandatory life sentences for murder, regardless of the offender's mental state.

"There is still a possibility of him being freed," deDelley said. "Is the likelihood there? I'm not sure, but the possibility shouldn't even be there. He still did it, whether he was in his right frame of mind or not. There was nobody else on that bus holding a knife slicing up my child." "



Yup, once he's fit to be released from the mental hospital he should be routed straight to prison to serve a life sentence.

What a double tragedy this is.

Fletch XXX 03-06-2009 06:48 AM

in America he'd have book deal alrdy, go Canada!

CDSmith 03-06-2009 07:52 AM

I just feel bad for the victim's family. No justice in the world for them, not even a trace of closure, only the feeling of dread that the guy who butchered their kid gets to live and might even be free one day.

Just incredible.


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