How do these guys do this scam?
 

http://young5.reliablefreehost.com/e...?console_id=16

These big paysites, collect the credit card infomation themselfs on there own scripts. I see this alot from spammers. Do they have some system setup where they then sign the person up to Ibill /ccbill /paycom sites via a script or do they have some arrangement with the big processors??

Sammy

they got their own merchant accounts

wrong, the site I looked at from that collects it's own cc info, but proccesses with ibill. It must be one of those cascading scripts, the surfer enters their info then it's goes through up to three different billing companies until someone accepts it.

none of the third party processors allow that anymore.

i thought i saw a big company posting cc card info on their own servers but Clay from Epoch said the domain was actually pointing to Epoch's server. And he was right!

sometimes things aren't as they appear:thumbsup

who owns those sites? i gave up after console hell started firing.