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Quotealex 02-14-2009 04:05 PM

GM considering Chapter 11 filing
 
Another big company that might go under: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090214/ts_nm/us_gm_plan

MaDalton 02-14-2009 04:10 PM

probably the best they can do to get rid of pension plans and high wages

After Shock Media 02-14-2009 04:16 PM

Charter cable is also thinking bankruptcy.

GatorB 02-14-2009 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Quotealex (Post 15496082)
Another big company that might go under: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090214/ts_nm/us_gm_plan

You do know that Chapter 11 and Chapter 7 are two totally differerent things?

$5 submissions 02-14-2009 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 15496146)
You do know that Chapter 11 and Chapter 7 are two totally differerent things?

Yep. However, a chapter 11 filing would still shake the stock market's confidence. Depending on how the Dow moves next week, the market might be pricing this and other pending reorganizations into the index's price.

SomeCreep 02-14-2009 04:46 PM

Yep, I'm thinking GM's bankruptcy is inevitable. Fuck, that's going to send stocks into the abyss.

$5 submissions 02-14-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 15496192)
Yep, I'm thinking GM's bankruptcy is inevitable. Fuck, that's going to send stocks into the abyss.

Short trades FTW :)

GAMEFINEST 02-14-2009 05:11 PM

that shit was coming sooner or later

SomeCreep 02-14-2009 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 15496241)
Short trades FTW :)

Well, there's always that option. Personally, I believe the risk of shorting the market at these levels far outweighs the rewards. The market could easily interpret GM's bankruptcy as the bottom of this bear market and rally huge.

Matt 26z 02-14-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 15496284)
The market could easily interpret GM's bankruptcy as the bottom of this bear market and rally huge.

Don't count on it.

And I definitely wouldn't want to be in Ford if GM files.... Oh wait, I am.... I should have sold during the December spike and made out really well, but I got greedy.

$5 submissions 02-14-2009 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 15496308)
Don't count on it.

Wasn't there an analyst that predicted the Dow at 6400 sometime by the third quarter this year? I don't know about 6400. Regardless, it's too soon to tell. Maybe things will start looking clearer once the inflationary effects of all the stimuli have come to pass.:2 cents:

crockett 02-14-2009 05:41 PM

I think we still have a long way to go with this stuff. I'd be suprised if GM actually went under, but you never know these days. My bank folded Fri... I just found out about 30 mins ago.

$5 submissions 02-14-2009 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 15496365)
.... My bank folded Fri... I just found out about 30 mins ago.

Whoa. Which bank was it?

crockett 02-14-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 15496391)
Whoa. Which bank was it?

well good news it wasn't mine.. it was another FL bank with the same name.

This one is mine they just put a message up saying it's not them..lol

http://www.riversidenb.com/

The other one was also called Riverside.

marcop 02-14-2009 06:52 PM

As the saying goes: "What's good for GM is good for America." Maybe the whole country should declare bankruptcy?

Jakez 02-14-2009 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 15496399)
well good news it wasn't mine.. it was another FL bank with the same name.

This one is mine they just put a message up saying it's not them..lol

http://www.riversidenb.com/

The other one was also called Riverside.

I never understood why people let a place so small and irresponsible hold all of their money..

tony286 02-14-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 15496102)
probably the best they can do to get rid of pension plans and high wages

Tell that to the 75 yr old guy who busted his ass there and is living off that pension he earned. Also if everyone makes 10 bucks an hour they cant buy much.
Nissan is laying off 20,000 and they have no unions. if banks dont open credit again you will eventually see them all fail.

Quotealex 02-14-2009 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 15496699)
I never understood why people let a place so small and irresponsible hold all of their money..

Because they are all insured with the FDIC!

jaysmoke 02-14-2009 07:30 PM

GM just go away...forever

born2blog 02-14-2009 07:33 PM

No surprise there, they've been going under for quite some time now and the layoffs continue to rise

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-14-2009 07:50 PM

snap.....

JD 02-14-2009 09:55 PM

wait... didn't they get bail out $? whole lot of good that did :/

Robbie 02-14-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15496716)
Tell that to the 75 yr old guy who busted his ass there and is living off that pension he earned. Also if everyone makes 10 bucks an hour they cant buy much.
Nissan is laying off 20,000 and they have no unions. if banks dont open credit again you will eventually see them all fail.

Yeah, Tony...but like I told you when the first bailout was happening, just because the govt. gave them BILLIONS of dollars didn't mean that even one job would be safe.

My grandfather worked hard all of his life. He busted his ass as a farmer, a rancher, and finally worked and became a milllionaire in the citrus industry. No union required. No pension plans, and no govt. assistance. He's 89 years old now and lives with my dad after suffering several strokes a few years ago.

Never asked for anything. Never took anything. And paid more in taxes than many of the folks in this thread have made in their entire lives. THAT is America.

Govt. bailouts and companies being bled to the ground is not supposed to be what this country is about in my opinion.

Just saying tony...the bailouts didn't save one job. Just like I said before. They aren't aimed at saving those jobs. They are aimed at saving those companies so that maybe one day there might be a job there for someone in the future at a reasonable wage so that people can actually afford to buy a car without having to put it on a 5 year financing plan.

Trax 02-15-2009 02:09 AM

wow... we are all so surprised
not

GatorB 02-15-2009 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15496716)
Tell that to the 75 yr old guy who busted his ass there and is living off that pension he earned. Also if everyone makes 10 bucks an hour they cant buy much.
Nissan is laying off 20,000 and they have no unions. if banks dont open credit again you will eventually see them all fail.

If that 75 year old insists and keeping his pension and other stuff his son and gradnson won't have a job. How selfish.


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