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vasten 11-17-2002 08:02 PM

Just to clear the air
 
O.K. You guys have had issues.. and they appear to be unresolvable for many of you.. I'm fine with that.

I was simply standing up and giving my 2 cents.

I will not however stand for people calling me anything less than genuine. I assure you all I was entirely genuine with my post. And I can only hope you guys can say the same about everything you post.

I don't know Nzdeignz personally. And like I said, I'm not 'vouching' for anyone. I was sharing my point of view which I derived from my experiences with him. Don't like it?? ... you all know the drill...:321GFY

I assure you I am not anything close to what you think of me.

My name is Matthew DeBlock, I may live in a place where a B&E makes the 6 O'clock, but thar doesnt mean I'll roll over while people talk shit.

And you definatly dont have any clue as to what my list of involvement in this business looks like. And thats the way I like it, because I dont wanna sit here and play any 'who' is he and does he desvere respect games. I just recently got back into the swing of things, and I'm starting to buckle down, trust me, you'll be hearing from me quite a bit, and you'll be seeing my work as well.

To all those with maturity on this issue, Thank you, And by maturity I simply mean those of you who posted in a less than childish manner. There were many, on both side of the argument with their own well put valid points.

At least I'm that much closer to a free GFY shirt ... WOOHOO.. lol

Pipecrew 11-17-2002 08:25 PM

dude relax, keep your posts short and uneducated if you wanna survive around here, nobody likes reading novels of respectable banter

quiet 11-17-2002 08:28 PM

and?

harvey 11-18-2002 12:52 AM

vasten, I didn't post on any of the threads about this guy, but if you want things clear, then let's go have a helluvah of clearness

When I made the announcement for the launching of Adult Worker, this guy contacted me asking for work. It took me by surprise, he showed me some not very good designs, but still usable for little works. Then I was on ICQ with somebody and just making a comment like "Hey, even people is offering themselves to work" and when I mentioned who he was (TennisAce/Sergui/NZ or whichever name he choose to use today), the other guy told me about that Amp thread. So, I chose not to have contact with him and yet not to bash him either, maybe he'd change, even when we know it happens 1 in a thousands times.

Anyway, let's suppose I hired him, then he makes some stolen shit and then my business is being hurt just because he obviously understands no other way to do things but cheating, scamming and plagiarism. Should I forgive him? Should I keep my mouth shut so he keeps scamming other people?

By the way, it's strange you support him, since he scammed you because Orchid Designs has all the rights to ask you to take off your TGP design since it's stolen from Orchid. Very unexpensive, huh? Now you depend on Orchid's good will to have a design, otherwise, you were stolen by the psychopathetic idiot you're deffending. Simply as that. Just to clear the air.

TDF 11-18-2002 12:53 AM

fuck yourself..and your mother while your at it ( I have been waiting 3 days to say that)

BJ 11-18-2002 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
dude relax, keep your posts short and uneducated if you wanna survive around here, nobody likes reading novels of respectable banter
zactly... I have 1200 completely useless posts and nobody gives me trouble

railz 11-18-2002 12:56 AM

Why not keep it to one thread? I'm not sure why you needed another thread, unless it was to draw attention to his "good work" without all the negativity.

Brown Bear 11-18-2002 01:08 AM

Drama queen.

GTS Mark 11-18-2002 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by vasten

At least I'm that much closer to a free GFY shirt ... WOOHOO.. lol

Fucking newbs! LOL!

DH

chodadog 11-18-2002 01:31 AM

I like to think i call things as i see it. I may be immature in your eyes, but at least i'm not helping a scammer earn his living. Be it with 50 bucks or 500 bucks, i'm not going to go near him with a 10 foot pole. I hope you're happy with your copied site.

Aussie Rebel 11-18-2002 02:32 AM

vasten You got fucked by the KID and you still back up the little fuckin cockroach, Does vasten = Tennisace? if not your a fuckin dick for buying a stolen design and still saying he is a good guy,
he's a thief and you condone it?

C_U_Next_Tuesday 11-18-2002 02:38 AM

Quote:

Drama queen.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

sternyduke 11-18-2002 02:49 AM

yeah, your threads makes you out to be a bitch who enjoys being taken for a sucker. every scammers dream...

vasten 11-18-2002 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by harvey
vasten, I didn't post on any of the threads about this guy, but if you want things clear, then let's go have a helluvah of clearness

When I made the announcement for the launching of Adult Worker, this guy contacted me asking for work. It took me by surprise, he showed me some not very good designs, but still usable for little works. Then I was on ICQ with somebody and just making a comment like "Hey, even people is offering themselves to work" and when I mentioned who he was (TennisAce/Sergui/NZ or whichever name he choose to use today), the other guy told me about that Amp thread. So, I chose not to have contact with him and yet not to bash him either, maybe he'd change, even when we know it happens 1 in a thousands times.

Anyway, let's suppose I hired him, then he makes some stolen shit and then my business is being hurt just because he obviously understands no other way to do things but cheating, scamming and plagiarism. Should I forgive him? Should I keep my mouth shut so he keeps scamming other people?

By the way, it's strange you support him, since he scammed you because Orchid Designs has all the rights to ask you to take off your TGP design since it's stolen from Orchid. Very unexpensive, huh? Now you depend on Orchid's good will to have a design, otherwise, you were stolen by the psychopathetic idiot you're deffending. Simply as that. Just to clear the air.

I am gonna deal with all these issues in my own way.. i assure you.. im just not gonna take what happens public. The post I made was definatly done without and background knowledge. You guys will not hear further form me on this topic.

vasten 11-18-2002 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sternyduke
yeah, your threads makes you out to be a bitch who enjoys being taken for a sucker. every scammers dream...

hahaha... try me buddy...

vasten 11-18-2002 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aussie Rebel
vasten You got fucked by the KID and you still back up the little fuckin cockroach, Does vasten = Tennisace? if not your a fuckin dick for buying a stolen design and still saying he is a good guy,
he's a thief and you condone it?

Never condoned anything... The accusation of ripping off designs will be dealt with, if not by him, by ME.

Gman.357 11-18-2002 04:18 AM

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Originally posted by vasten


Never condoned anything... The accusation of ripping off designs will be dealt with, if not by him, by ME.

Doesn't the word "accusation" indicate the presumption of innocence? After a person is convicted on the evidence presented to his/her peers, they are no longer the accused, they're now "guilty".



:winkwink:

vasten 11-18-2002 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gman.357


Doesn't the word "accusation" indicate the presumption of innocence? After a person is convicted on the evidence presented to his/her peers, they are no longer the accused, they're now "guilty".



:winkwink:

You have caught me in a logical loophole.. :thumbsup a rare thing.

yes.. I see your point and I am not presuming anything, at least nothing that I would be willing to post publicly... I hope you understand that. I have no intention of taking this matter public.. It's just not good business, seeing as it has already caused so much of a distrubance.


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