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Kard63 02-09-2009 05:17 PM

What is the penalty for skipping jury duty?
 
What is the penalty for skipping jury duty? Does it vary by state? I'm in Indiana. My fucking number got called. If its only a $200 ticket I'll gladly pay that to skip. Anyone know?

Juicy D. Links 02-09-2009 05:19 PM

i went last thursday they let me go after 3 hours

CDSmith 02-09-2009 05:19 PM

Have you no sense of civic duty?

ye gods man.

geedub 02-09-2009 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 15462683)
What is the penalty for skipping jury duty? Does it vary by state? I'm in Indiana. My fucking number got called. If its only a $200 ticket I'll gladly pay that to skip. Anyone know?

you're a piece of shit, be a fucking man and do your duty.

HorseShit 02-09-2009 05:21 PM

they hang you

Sly 02-09-2009 05:23 PM

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...1154524AAcV3kj

Jarmusch 02-09-2009 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jdavis (Post 15462699)
they hang you

:1orglaugh

brassmonkey 02-09-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by geedub (Post 15462698)
you're a piece of shit, be a fucking man and do your duty.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh just dont go:2 cents:

$5 submissions 02-09-2009 05:35 PM

Jury duty isn't so bad. It could be pretty interesting.

When I had jury duty in 2001, I was asked to determine guilt in a drunk driving case. Here are the facts: a guy was found drunk in the driver side of a car parked on a freeway shoulder. The cops came, saw that he was drunk, arrested him and towed the car.

Here are the defense's claims:
The guy claimed that he and his buddy were in the car and his buddy was driving. The car ran out of gas. He was worried someone might jack his car so he decided to wait in the driver's seat until his friend got back.

His friend testified to these matters. The cops testimonies only had to do with whether the guy was drunk, not whether there car was out of gas.

Result: Acquittal

F-U-Jimmy 02-09-2009 05:36 PM

In California if you miss jury duty without letting the court know you get a firing squad
In Arizona you get ass raped
In Montana they cut off a limb for each time you miss court
In Idaho they put your balls in a machine vice until they pop !!

dav3 02-09-2009 05:46 PM

I was notified for jury duty twice so far. First time, I never had to go. Second time, I showed up for 5 minutes and they sent us away. Just do it, it's not that bad. :)

ronaldo 02-09-2009 06:05 PM

The penalty for SKIPPING Jury Duty? I'm not sure.

The penalty for not being able to GET OUT of Jury Duty if you WANT to is being branded an idiot by your friends and associates for life.

d-null 02-09-2009 06:08 PM

what if you show up drunk?

ronaldo 02-09-2009 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 15462689)
Have you no sense of civic duty?

ye gods man.

Sorry man, I disagree. My taxes already go to pay for the court system and now they want ME to sit on a jury pretty much for FREE and listen to a group of high priced attorneys? I don't think so. Pay me my FULL salary for the duration of the trial and I'd do it with no problem. Come to think of it, I bet MOST people would if they weren't going to lose money in the deal.

What do you think would happen if the judges and prosecutors were told THEY had to work as a teacher's assistant for a week at $10 per day? Either they'd walk out or the lawsuits would start FLYING.

$5 submissions 02-09-2009 06:13 PM

Just tell them you are BIASED AGAINST EVERYONE. LoLz

Juicy D. Links 02-09-2009 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 15462901)
what if you show up drunk?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Minte 02-09-2009 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 15462683)
What is the penalty for skipping jury duty? Does it vary by state? I'm in Indiana. My fucking number got called. If its only a $200 ticket I'll gladly pay that to skip. Anyone know?



In the immortal words of Cheech and Chong, "Bailiff, whack his pee-pee!"

Meeper 02-09-2009 06:33 PM

I believe you get a warrant put out on you. Pretty serious business.

CDSmith 02-09-2009 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ronaldo (Post 15462921)
Sorry man, I disagree. My taxes already go to pay for the court system and now they want ME to sit on a jury pretty much for FREE and listen to a group of high priced attorneys? I don't think so. Pay me my FULL salary for the duration of the trial and I'd do it with no problem. Come to think of it, I bet MOST people would if they weren't going to lose money in the deal.

What do you think would happen if the judges and prosecutors were told THEY had to work as a teacher's assistant for a week at $10 per day? Either they'd walk out or the lawsuits would start FLYING.

I guess I should have stuck a smiley in with my post. I just knew someone would take it all serious-like and go off on me.


Note to self: use more :winkwink::pimp:1orglaugh:) :D 's.

ronaldo 02-09-2009 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 15463085)
I guess I should have stuck a smiley in with my post. I just knew someone would take it all serious-like and go off on me.


Note to self: use more :winkwink::pimp:1orglaugh:) :D 's.

lol, sorry man. People really think that though and it does piss me off.

starpimps 02-09-2009 06:46 PM

say that you hate all ethnics, believe that everyone is guilty until proven innocent and hate barack obama. Then scream WHITE POWER


no more jury duty

CDSmith 02-09-2009 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronaldo (Post 15462921)
Sorry man, I disagree. My taxes already go to pay for the court system and now they want ME to sit on a jury pretty much for FREE and listen to a group of high priced attorneys? I don't think so. Pay me my FULL salary for the duration of the trial and I'd do it with no problem. Come to think of it, I bet MOST people would if they weren't going to lose money in the deal.

What do you think would happen if the judges and prosecutors were told THEY had to work as a teacher's assistant for a week at $10 per day? Either they'd walk out or the lawsuits would start FLYING.

However

It IS one's civic duty. You make some compelling points that are valid (as usual), but people out there want less crime, they gripe about the crime that goes on in their community yet when called upon to assist the process and lend a hand they balk at it like it's a chore to be avoided at all costs. The fact is SOMEONE has to show up and do it or else the system won't work, period. My taxes go towards fueling the system as well but how fast would the system go bankrupt if they had to pay everyone their full wage to do this expected service to their community?

Also, no one gets paid when they have their own court dates for various things, yet having a choice about it or not most people show up for that or they face a penalty. I'd say it's smarter to just suck it up and show up for jury duty rather than getting hit with whatever the penalty is, but that's just me. Then again I've geared much of my business so that I can take a few days or a few weeks off and my income doesn't stop just because I'm not there.

Helix 02-09-2009 06:49 PM

deportation...j/k
It's your civic duty, plus it can be an interesting process to be part of. You might enjoy it.

ExLust 02-09-2009 06:58 PM

Just be part of it. Charge to experience though.

dial 02-09-2009 07:05 PM

I never signed up for anything that required me to have jury duty ;) haha

just like I never signed up for the "Selective Service" when I was 18

my dad gave me the choice and explained the consequences, I chose not to

Kard63 02-09-2009 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 15462772)
Jury duty isn't so bad. It could be pretty interesting.

When I had jury duty in 2001, I was asked to determine guilt in a drunk driving case. Here are the facts: a guy was found drunk in the driver side of a car parked on a freeway shoulder. The cops came, saw that he was drunk, arrested him and towed the car.

Here are the defense's claims:
The guy claimed that he and his buddy were in the car and his buddy was driving. The car ran out of gas. He was worried someone might jack his car so he decided to wait in the driver's seat until his friend got back.

His friend testified to these matters. The cops testimonies only had to do with whether the guy was drunk, not whether there car was out of gas.

Result: Acquittal

This is the 2nd reason I dont want to go, stupid people.

EscortBiz 02-09-2009 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Meeper (Post 15463052)
I believe you get a warrant put out on you. Pretty serious business.

that is correct

TyroneGoldberg 02-09-2009 07:17 PM

found this on wiki

Quote:

if you missed jury duty, you're not going to white-collar resort prison. No, no, no. you're going to federal POUND ME IN THE ASS prison.

ronaldo 02-09-2009 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 15463167)
However

It IS one's civic duty. You make some compelling points that are valid (as usual), but people out there want less crime, they gripe about the crime that goes on in their community yet when called upon to assist the process and lend a hand they balk at it like it's a chore to be avoided at all costs. The fact is SOMEONE has to show up and do it or else the system won't work, period. My taxes go towards fueling the system as well but how fast would the system go bankrupt if they had to pay everyone their full wage to do this expected service to their community?

Also, no one gets paid when they have their own court dates for various things, yet having a choice about it or not most people show up for that or they face a penalty. I'd say it's smarter to just suck it up and show up for jury duty rather than getting hit with whatever the penalty is, but that's just me. Then again I've geared much of my business so that I can take a few days or a few weeks off and my income doesn't stop just because I'm not there.

I agree that the system couldn't withstand the full pay idea. However, there are millions of people on some sort of government assistance that are either unable or UNWILLING to work. THOSE people should be at the top of the list every single time so that instead of getting called 2 or 3 times in your lifetime to serve, only 1 out of every 2 or 3 working persons are EVER called. You know what though? I don't know, but I'd almost be willing to bet that if you're COLLECTING employment insurance you're NOT able to serve on jury duty and if you ARE, you have to say you weren't ABLE to work while serving jury duty. So you'd have to declare that and then not get paid for it anyways. I could be wrong, but that wouldn't surprise me in the least. If that's accurate, the government is taking my money to fund the court system, fund the welfare and EI programs, saying THOSE people are ineligible to serve and forcing ME to lose MORE money BY serving. How fucked up does that sound?

Those "out of my ass" calculations btw don't count the working people that DO get paid by their employer when they serve on jury duty and would be willing to do it or people who are financially secure enough to do it without hesitation.

ronaldo 02-09-2009 07:22 PM

After a quick search, you ARE able to serve if you're collecting EI benefits...

http://www.canadianlawsite.ca/jury-duty.htm#j...

What if I am Receiving Employment Insurance Benefits?
Under the Employment Insurance Act, a person entitled to employment insurance benefits remains entitled to those benefits while engaged in jury service.

That only adds more substance to MY argument that these people SHOULD be at the top of the list EVERY time.

Kard63 02-09-2009 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TyroneGoldberg (Post 15463462)
found this on wiki

That's dumb. Federal prison is way more comfortable than state prison. You don't get out much do you?

Mr Pheer 02-09-2009 09:50 PM

Nobody can truthfully answer this, because everyone is too much of a pussy to say fuckit, I'm not going... and then see what happens. Those who actually do it, you never hear from those people again.

I've been summoned 3 times. I never went on the first summons, but I always went on the second one that sounds much more serious. Everytime, I sat in a room till lunch time, then everyone in the room was told that we were excused.

Barefootsies 02-09-2009 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Meeper (Post 15463052)
I believe you get a warrant put out on you. Pretty serious business.

That is how it works in Michigan.

WarChild 02-09-2009 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ronaldo (Post 15462921)
Sorry man, I disagree. My taxes already go to pay for the court system and now they want ME to sit on a jury pretty much for FREE and listen to a group of high priced attorneys? I don't think so. Pay me my FULL salary for the duration of the trial and I'd do it with no problem. Come to think of it, I bet MOST people would if they weren't going to lose money in the deal.

What do you think would happen if the judges and prosecutors were told THEY had to work as a teacher's assistant for a week at $10 per day? Either they'd walk out or the lawsuits would start FLYING.

Well let's hope if you're ever wrongly accused of a crime that you're not left with a Jury of only those too stupid to get out of it. :2 cents:

tony286 02-09-2009 10:18 PM

Ive been called twice once I served, the other time I sat around for about 5 hrs read a book and then sent home. Its the right thing to do. Its better now when my dad first went in the 60's you were there for a week whether you were called to a case or not.

baddog 02-09-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 15462978)
In the immortal words of Cheech and Chong, "Bailiff, whack his pee-pee!"

You are definitely dating yourself with that one. :1orglaugh

baddog 02-09-2009 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 15463350)
This is the 2nd reason I dont want to go, stupid people.

All it takes is one sensible person to save someone's ass. I remember a panel I was on that after the prosecution rested we were sent to the jury room. When we came out they told us the case was dismissed for lack of evidence.

When we were walking back to the jury pool every person on that jury, except me, was surprised that charges had been dismissed. They were ready to convict on some totally b.s. testimony.

If it had gone to the jury I would have been the person to save him.

baddog 02-09-2009 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ronaldo (Post 15463488)
I agree that the system couldn't withstand the full pay idea. However, there are millions of people on some sort of government assistance that are either unable or UNWILLING to work. THOSE people should be at the top of the list every single time

You say that now, but wait until someone you care about is on trial.

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 15463699)
Here is how they flag your name and you'll never get another jury duty summons. EVER.

*babble babble*

They got my number because I have not got a summons in years. :2 cents:

I guess I missed it. What part was telling us how to never get another jury summons?

James 02-09-2009 10:59 PM

In Canada, they give us beer.

Antonio 02-09-2009 11:02 PM

death .

tony286 02-09-2009 11:05 PM

All this jury talk has made me want to watch the original 12 angry men.

Kard63 02-09-2009 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15464426)
I guess I missed it. What part was telling us how to never get another jury summons?

I think he said you have to let 4 guilty people go free first. What happens if they are murders and then murder someone I know? Do I then kill myself? Maybe if they murder again but not someone I know I'll only have to cut myself.

tony286 02-09-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15464391)
All it takes is one sensible person to save someone's ass. I remember a panel I was on that after the prosecution rested we were sent to the jury room. When we came out they told us the case was dismissed for lack of evidence.

When we were walking back to the jury pool every person on that jury, except me, was surprised that charges had been dismissed. They were ready to convict on some totally b.s. testimony.

If it had gone to the jury I would have been the person to save him.

This was the post that made me think of 12 angry men, Henry Fonda was the sensible man.

CDSmith 02-09-2009 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15464426)
You say that now, but wait until someone you care about is on trial.

Ding

We have a winner.

$5 submissions 02-10-2009 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 15463350)
This is the 2nd reason I dont want to go, stupid people.

Well, stupidity, at least in jury cases, is open to interpretation. The OJ case aside :1orglaugh.

Regarding this case: Actually, the prosecution could not rebut the defense witness' testimony. They focused all their efforts on proving the guy was drunk. He was drunk, no question about that. But they didn't give any evidence about his defense--he wasn't driving, his buddy was.

I was skeptical at first but the defense witness was credible, even after a nasty and hysterical (but ineffective) cross from the prosecutor.

Since the standard is "guilt beyond a reasonable doubt" in criminal cases, the jury acquitted.

If the standard were the civil lawsuit standard of "preponderance of the evidence", I think he'd still be acquitted because the prosecution didn't do its job. All she did was roll her eyes and ask condescending questions when cross examining the defense witness. Maybe that would be good enough for some other people but we the jurors (a couple of engineers, businessmen, a lawyer, and other professionals in the jury) wanted facts or at least impeach the witness or trip him up on inconsistencies. She did none of the above. Instead she focused on how "convenient" the witness' testimony was and she kept rolling her eyes, trying to browbeat the jury into thinking that if we believed the witness that we're idiots. That doesn't work on forums, it didn't work on a jury in a court of law.

nation-x 02-10-2009 06:12 AM

In Indiana you could be charged with Direct Contempt (Civil Contempt). I think the penalty can be up to 7 days in jail and/or a $2000 fine. At any rate you would then have a misdemeanor on your record.

HorseShit 02-10-2009 07:17 AM

I would like to do it sometime, good experience

Mistah Charlie 02-10-2009 08:41 AM

Here's what a friend of mine who is a judge told me: throw it out. If a sheriff shows up at your door (don't worry, no sheriffs have ever been assigned to do this), say "I never got it". They may send you a second notice. Throw that out, too. Now, this is for CA. I don't know what other states do.

Kard63 02-10-2009 09:36 AM

I WENT... BITCHES!

They put me in the juror box to start out but they didn't like me. One guy was defending himself and they asked if that could make a difference to anyone in anyway. The judge already told us it was a nickle and dime case and I said I might be a little influenced by the possibility that the plaintiff goes to court so frivolously and so often that he doesn't want to pay a lawyer. I got booted with the quickness.

brassmonkey 02-10-2009 10:14 AM

go there and act like your talking to yourself


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