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EZRhino 01-28-2009 06:09 PM

Max Hardcore
 
Dear Friends, and Supporters of Free Speech,
Paul Little, who the world knows as Max Hardcore, will be surrendering his freedom Thursday, January 29th, 2009, at the Federal Metropolitan Detention Center at 535 N. Alameda Street in downtown Los Angeles. When Paul is taken into custody, all of us lose a little more of our freedom. Paul is on the front line of the fight for Free Speech, and is paying a heavy price in the battle with the powers who wish to silence us all.
We have received strong support from many in the industry and beyond, who understand that Paul's fight is not just for himself, but for the all Americans. He is out on the front line and caught the flak, and by doing so, he is protecting us all. But words of encouragement are not enough.
In these difficult economic times, many of us are doing what we can simply to pay the bills and continue doing business. It's been twice as tough for us here as the government has seized our long time domain name, and forced us to establish a new home at MaxHardcoreTV.com.
Take a stand and show your support for Freedom of Speech by proudly placing the Fuck Censorship banner on your website. This sends users to the story of Paul's conviction and gives them the option to directly support our legal fight by joining Max's new home at maxhardcoretv.com.
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Paul was not the first to get railroaded by the injustice of the federal government, nor will he be the last. It's time for all of us to let them know you've had enough of this, and will stand together in the fight for freedom. If we don't, my friends, someday they could be back for you.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Richard
Max World Entertainment

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Sebastian Sands 01-28-2009 06:12 PM

sad story.. but when you play with fire.....

EXPORT 01-28-2009 06:13 PM

i have not got much to say

but he did push the boundaries a little

IMHO this has nothing to do with free speech

Nookster 01-28-2009 06:14 PM

What did he expect to get for knowingly breaking several obscenity laws? And, yea...nothing at all to do with free speech.

After Shock Media 01-28-2009 06:15 PM

Do not agree with how it went down. Do not agree with the charges.
Do know that you really should not play with the Government that way though, few ever win and even when they do they still loose.

GTS Mark 01-28-2009 06:16 PM

I was suprised when I saw Max walking around the past couple of shows I thought he was supposed to be in jail already?

How long was he sentenced for?

JustDaveXxx 01-28-2009 06:18 PM

he got rocked!! Where is the free speech coalition?? No where to be found.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-28-2009 06:20 PM

Why not just put Fuck Censorship instead of censoring it with F*ck Censorship? :upsidedow

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Lightning 01-28-2009 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EXPORT (Post 15405068)
i have not got much to say

but he did push the boundaries a little

IMHO this has nothing to do with free speech


I agree totally.:helpme

seeric 01-28-2009 06:34 PM

good luck to max. everyone takes their own risks. i don't approve of his content, but i think he has a right to do it if its consensual and does not cause pain. if they wanted us all silenced, it would be done already. all the PPV on cable broadcast would be shuttered, all the adult video stores would be raided and locked up. they don't want all of us, just the ones who they can pick off easily using their bland, uninterpretable wishy washy laws. obscenity can never be defined under the guidelines that are set as of now. there is no written black and white. its all left to interpretation. therefore, efforts should be enacted to define obscenity and influence the laws to be clarified. otherwise everyone is a target of selective interpretation at any given time.

SomeCreep 01-28-2009 06:36 PM

The problem with living life on the edge, is sometimes you fall.

Ooooh and that gravity, it's a killer.

hypedough 01-28-2009 06:38 PM

LOL why no one mentions the fact that he put a screwdriver through a girl's pussy into her ass is beyond me. Just because he follows the 2257 shit doesn't mean he needs to be supported. The dude sold porn extremely targeted to pedo's, plain and simple. Watch one of his rougher scenes and dare to get a hard-on :(

Joshua G 01-28-2009 06:42 PM

It really is bullshit to jail a person for making a porno.

EXPORT 01-28-2009 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hypedough (Post 15405190)
LOL why no one mentions the fact that he put a screwdriver through a girl's pussy into her ass is beyond me. Just because he follows the 2257 shit doesn't mean he needs to be supported. The dude sold porn extremely targeted to pedo's, plain and simple. Watch one of his rougher scenes and dare to get a hard-on :(

all the content I saw was pretty much legit

but the things he was saying and thus trying to convey

sick!:disgust

dyna mo 01-28-2009 06:44 PM

he's no larry flynt.

Joshua G 01-28-2009 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 15405169)
good luck to max. everyone takes their own risks. i don't approve of his content, but i think he has a right to do it if its consensual and does not cause pain. if they wanted us all silenced, it would be done already. all the PPV on cable broadcast would be shuttered, all the adult video stores would be raided and locked up. they don't want all of us, just the ones who they can pick off easily using their bland, uninterpretable wishy washy laws. obscenity can never be defined under the guidelines that are set as of now. there is no written black and white. its all left to interpretation. therefore, efforts should be enacted to define obscenity and influence the laws to be clarified. otherwise everyone is a target of selective interpretation at any given time.

disagree. the ambiguity protects our speech because that makes it so difficult for the government to score convictions. If they spelled out exactly what was illegal, things would be much less free around here.

After Shock Media 01-28-2009 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hypedough (Post 15405190)
LOL why no one mentions the fact that he put a screwdriver through a girl's pussy into her ass is beyond me. Just because he follows the 2257 shit doesn't mean he needs to be supported. The dude sold porn extremely targeted to pedo's, plain and simple. Watch one of his rougher scenes and dare to get a hard-on :(


Did he get prosecuted for assault?
Do not think this was about 2257 either.
Damn sure he did not target pedo's either as well we all know what pedos are interested in and adults can not "pretend" to be it. He did cater to well to put it lightly degrading women.

Voodoo 01-28-2009 06:45 PM

It was good seeing you Richard. The party was nice. Max can JAM on the guitar! Hopefully the appeal goes well for him. IMHO, this is utter B.S.

P.S. I'm glad tentacle wasn't there.

After Shock Media 01-28-2009 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 15405208)
disagree. the ambiguity protects our speech because that makes it so difficult for the government to score convictions. If they spelled out exactly what was illegal, things would be much less free around here.

And I will disagree with you.
Clear cut rules can easily be fought and have shit stopped before you loose every penny you own fighting it. Vague ones just allow them to fuck with you for as long as they wish.

seeric 01-28-2009 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 15405208)
disagree. the ambiguity protects our speech because that makes it so difficult for the government to score convictions. If they spelled out exactly what was illegal, things would be much less free around here.

i'll take definition over biased based interpretations any day. theres nothing worse than functioning under the guise of "ehhh i could be doing something illegal, all depends on who is considering it." no thanks. i'd rather they define it. anyone and everyone who produces content is a target at any time the government wants. also, i don't know if many of you remember but max repeatedly kicked the beehive and pissed off the government on more than a few occasions as far as i remember. ask joe francis how the target feels on your back once you pretty much tell them to fuck off.

Joshua G 01-28-2009 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 15405217)
And I will disagree with you.
Clear cut rules can easily be fought and have shit stopped before you loose every penny you own fighting it. Vague ones just allow them to fuck with you for as long as they wish.

If you task our family values politicians to define exactly what they would ban, we would all go to jail IMO. the first amendment didnt stop the supreme court from creating & upholding the obscenity law. The vagueness of defining "patently offensive" & "prevailing community standards" makes it a tough road for Jonny Law to convict porn producers on obscenity. So mostly they get settlements from poor shop owners that cant defend themselves. We just had 8 years of an evangelical president & he couldn't do jack shit to stop the porn business. I like it vague...

Joshua G 01-28-2009 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 15405224)
i'll take definition over biased based interpretations any day. theres nothing worse than functioning under the guise of "ehhh i could be doing something illegal, all depends on who is considering it." no thanks. i'd rather they define it. anyone and everyone who produces content is a target at any time the government wants. also, i don't know if many of you remember but max repeatedly kicked the beehive and pissed off the government on more than a few occasions as far as i remember. ask joe francis how the target feels on your back once you pretty much tell them to fuck off.

I hear you but the politicians are not our friends. Congress votes overwelmingly for laws like COPA. The only thing that keeps us all out of jail has been the federal courts considering "non obscene" porn to be constitutionally protected speech.

CaptainHowdy 01-28-2009 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands (Post 15405066)
sad story.. but when you play with fire.....

There you go...

directfiesta 01-28-2009 07:15 PM

what exactly happened to http://jadedvideo.com/ ????

directfiesta 01-28-2009 07:17 PM

Oh yes, this happened :

http://jadedvideo.com/MaxHardcore

Max Hardcore Max Extreme 17
Category: Anal
Starring: Olivia, Catalina, Vivanica, Jessica...
Media: DVD,DVD
Release Date: 3/26/2007
Our Price: $69.95

After Shock Media 01-28-2009 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 15405319)
Oh yes, this happened :

http://jadedvideo.com/MaxHardcore

Max Hardcore Max Extreme 17
Category: Anal
Starring: Olivia, Catalina, Vivanica, Jessica...
Media: DVD,DVD
Release Date: 3/26/2007
Our Price: $69.95

Shhh, you will upset the balance.

dyna mo 01-28-2009 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 15405319)
Oh yes, this happened :

http://jadedvideo.com/MaxHardcore

Max Hardcore Max Extreme 17
Category: Anal
Starring: Olivia, Catalina, Vivanica, Jessica...
Media: DVD,DVD
Release Date: 3/26/2007
Our Price: $69.95

i don't see the fuck censorship banner there:upsidedow

EXPORT 01-28-2009 07:49 PM

So how many F*ck Censorship banners are flying on the boards right now

0?

or 1?

kane 01-28-2009 07:50 PM

Here is the big problem with Max's conviction.

You can argue that Max pushed the enveloped, fucked with the bull and got the horns. I personally don't like his content, but in that area I find most hardcore stuff kind of nasty and prefer the more softcore stuff. Call me old fashioned, but jerking off to a hot naked girl is fine by me. If it is hardcore I want at least the illusion that she is having a good time.

But this isn't about what I want to jerk off to.

Some of the things Max got convicted for were videos of his that were on the internet. Those videos were also simply trailers for other full length videos. Now the law says to find something obscene you have to take in the work as a whole, not just small pieces of it. That didn't happen here. They saw a very short trailer and used that to make their decision and toss him in jail.

COPA is gone, but some of the rulings of COPA linger. One of those rulings by the US Supreme Court is that you can use local standards when judging something that is on the internet. What this means is that if the convictions Max received for the movie trailers on his website are not overturned during his appeal any small conservative town in the nation can go to any MPG gallery you may post, watch your 30 second video clip and drag your ass into court, get a conviction and lock you away.

That is wrong.
The US Supreme Court was wrong with their ruling. Local community standards should not apply to the internet.
The court that handed Max convictions based on his movie trailers was wrong as well.

If those convictions are left to stand it could open a can of worms that could make things very ugly for this industry.

Love or hate Max. Love or hate his content, this is something everyone in this business should be paying close attention to.

JFK 01-28-2009 07:52 PM

You may NOT like him , but I totally disagree with what he got busted for:2 cents:

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Adam X 01-28-2009 08:16 PM

good stuff kane

yeah I dont really know him but strangely I ran into him and Layla at NAMM, the musicians convention in Anaheim.. in the Hilton lobby after hours party.. he was running around with Layla (always some naughty little slut-of-the-month as usual!) and we talked for a few.. he actually seems like a nice guy.. regardless, as with many I'm no fan of pissing on girls, pretty degrading to the "max" so to speak. Jeez.. but thats his thing, and...

you're right Kane, local community standards should not apply to the internet.. thats a bullshit ruling gone wild and Max is the scapegoat until that ruling is shot down.

topnotch, standup guy 01-28-2009 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hypedough (Post 15405190)
LOL why no one mentions the fact that he put a screwdriver through a girl's pussy into her ass is beyond me.

Go sit in the corner and cry like an old woman you micro dick fucking wimp.

Max is the man :thumbsup

munki 01-28-2009 08:36 PM

Best of luck Max... whatever anyone's personal opinions it's a sad day for the industry...

joefriday 01-28-2009 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 15405181)
The problem with living life on the edge, is sometimes you fall.

Ooooh and that gravity, it's a killer.

Its not the fall that gets you ..... its the sudden stop at the bottom thats the real killer !!

FreeHugeMovies 01-28-2009 10:59 PM

"Max Hardcore was never a rich man" I beg to differ.

sortie 01-28-2009 11:37 PM

Postmark this thread for the year 2050 and maybe then it will not be a total joke.

For this time and age, the guy was way off base.

Brujah 01-28-2009 11:47 PM

Does anyone have the actual video footage that got him in trouble? I'd like to actually see it for myself before I make any judgement like most people in this thread are probably doing.

sortie 01-28-2009 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15405986)
Does anyone have the actual video footage that got him in trouble? I'd like to actually see it for myself before I make any judgement like most people in this thread are probably doing.

The actual footage???? :1orglaugh

Damn dude, just pick one. :1orglaugh

jmcb420 01-29-2009 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 15405094)
he got rocked!! Where is the free speech coalition?? No where to be found.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Free Speech Coalition? lmao, they were busy spending all their donations on fun shit. The F.S.C. is a fucking joke.:2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 15405199)
It really is bullshit to jail a person for making a porno.

No matter how you look at it, wether you like of dislike Max's "work" This is what is happening, and this is super fucking bad news for anyone in this industry, on any level.


Once they start taking freedoms away through incarseration of individuals then it just makes it easier to remove any other freedom they want. First they take, then you give.


once it starts, good fucking luck stopping it.

ExLust 01-29-2009 12:28 AM

Sad thing to know about Max.

donnylong 01-29-2009 12:39 AM

As a content producer that gives clients and fans what they want to see or own, and doing so inside of the law, I have many thoughts about the whole Max Hardcore issue.

I do not like his content personally but i am sure there are fans out there that do. The way I look at it is max took a niche that clients and or fans wanted to see or purchase and he produced it and sold it without breaking the law and got fucked and made a exsample out of all because of a closet whore.

If a female is over the age of 18 and wants to get pissed on called a whore that she is, and or have a screwdriver shoved up her twat to make a buck then thats her choice "Freedom of Speech" right?

The government has turned on us as a whole being united states citizens and now its just all about taking your money. Look at how much we all pay in taxes every year and what happen with gas prices. Some stupid closet whore didnt like seeing a girl getting degraded by max and max got fucked. What people seem to forget is whores sign up to get this shit done to them everyday and like it. Even the ones that dont like it still sign up to do it to pay there rent.

Do you have any idea how many whores call me saying i will do anal now because i am broke or i will do a black man now even though i hate them because i need the money. Sometimes they dont like anal and its hurts them but they dont care about anything more than that check because maybe sugar daddy for the week dumped her, who knows.

I look at this no different than a whore saying i will go to my non porn job today and make 8 bucks an hour doing whatever it might be that she does and might put her in pain and or make her do something that she doesnt want to do but she will because she needs the money. THATS LIFE PEOPLE!

I heard that the judge in max's case was a FUCKING FEMALE not sure about this but I wouldnt be surprised because i dont see a man doing this to a pornographer:2 cents:

I just found that the judge that denied Max Hardcore to Delay Prison Sentence till the appeal was a FEMALE. http://avnmag.avn.com/articles/33028.html That is 100% of the problem right there "FEMALE". I think he should have a miss trail just because of that
:2 cents:

I use to talk to this cunt that got paid like 10k a shoot and a million a year under a contract and she was a mainstream magazine model and she drove a Bentley and walked around like she was a god. We had a argument about how she is no better than a girl that makes money adult modeling or doing porn that her ass is still a piece off meet when she goes to work and puts that thong on for those pictures and bends over with her cleavage hanging out. MAYBE THATS WHY SHE DONT TALK TO ME ANYMORE :1orglaugh

I love it how its okay for big companies that have tons of money get away with putting a 15 or 16 year old on the front cover of a magazine in a bra and panties posing all sexy looking, with tons of whore makeup on as well like victoria secret did and thats ok but when a girl over the age of 18 asked to be pissed on and called a whore and a screwdriver put up her cunt to pay HER bills then thats not ok. :2 cents:

So you know why max got fucked?

Because of whores and money the 2 roots of all evil and with that said check out

http://ihatewhores.com/

:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme

Drake 01-29-2009 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hypedough (Post 15405190)
LOL why no one mentions the fact that he put a screwdriver through a girl's pussy into her ass is beyond me.


When did that happen and which pornstar did it happen to?

donnylong 01-29-2009 02:49 AM

wow no childish flaming? :Oh crap

Mutt 01-29-2009 03:19 AM

who cares what a pornographer thinks, the government and 99% of society don't care. Obscenity laws, federal and state, have been on the books in the US since the 1800's - and been tested over and over again in the highest courts in the land - and they stand - accept it or move to a country where there are no obscenity laws - there probably are none. The definition of what's obscene changes with the times - and Max Hardcore went way over the line and he got nailed.

even in a culture where hardcore porn has become commonplace if you think the government is going to change/liberalize obscenity laws you are cukoo. if you are going to be pushing the envelope of 'hardcore pornography' you take the very real risk of going to jail - and it will be the same 100 years from now.

xxxjay 01-29-2009 03:32 AM

I personally like Max. I've never really watched any of hit moves.

Super nice guy though.

donnylong 01-29-2009 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 15406536)
I personally like Max. I've never really watched any of hit moves.

Super nice guy though.

yes he is! :thumbsup

gooddomains 01-29-2009 06:35 AM

his porn flicks are one of the best around

Machete_ 01-29-2009 06:41 AM

"Paul is on the front line of the fight for Free Speech" uhhhm no!
More like he is in the front line skull-fucking you daughters to make a PROFIT

He is here to make MONEY like anyone else, anyone who believe differently is a idiot

tranza 01-29-2009 06:46 AM

That's a sad story...

Fletch XXX 01-29-2009 06:53 AM

max hardcore is not a martyr for everyone, you people act like he wrote a poem and got arrested, its reaching using him as an example of "free speech" - i believe he is in trouble for "mailing" something, just like Tommy Chong, Chong went to jail for mailing GLASS!

while i do not applaud his arrest, portraying him as a martyr for "adult internet" is not exactly the correct way to go about this.


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