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Penny Flame 01-21-2009 08:36 PM

question regarding a contract
 
If there is no "end" date, like expiration, does that mean that the contract goes on forever? because it doesn't say "this contract lasts forever....."

any input greatly appreciated.

Pete-KT 01-21-2009 08:37 PM

The contract is usually good for life or until voided or canceled

NaughtyRob 01-21-2009 08:39 PM

Contact an adult biz attorney.

Penny Flame 01-21-2009 08:39 PM

thanks my man.

qxm 01-21-2009 08:39 PM

I came looking for a hot PF secretary pic :( .....

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-21-2009 08:41 PM

Not a good sign:(

JenniDahling 01-21-2009 08:42 PM

Hi shiny Penny! Hit me up on ICQ gal!

WiredGuy 01-21-2009 08:50 PM

If there's no clearly defined expiration then it should be indefinite. However, there is almost always a cancellation or termination clause. If there isn't one, then chances are the contract wasn't written by a real lawyer.
WG

RyuLion 01-21-2009 08:51 PM

be careful girl..

MaDalton 01-21-2009 08:51 PM

usually it should say something like "automatically renews every xx months/years until cancelled xx months ahead" or so. better have someone read it who has a clue

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-21-2009 08:55 PM

There is no "contract for life" when it comes to employment, so you should seek out a qualified attorney and show him/her whatever contract you have signed, and get their advice...

Good luck,

ADG

NickB. 01-21-2009 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JenniDahling (Post 15370238)
Hi shiny Penny! Hit me up on ICQ gal!

sweet jesus your avatar just got me a massive hardon.....

Emily Saint 01-21-2009 09:17 PM

Was that you in vegas at the players ball putting your butt to the glass for the bartenders?!? LOL and pouring whip cream on the glass?

Mutt 01-21-2009 09:22 PM

as ADG said - the absence of a termination or renewal dates doesn't make a contract perpetual. so if you're worried that you might be trapped by some contract, don't. courts don't like exclusive employment contracts.

CarlosTheGaucho 01-21-2009 09:24 PM

If you need an advice of a consigliere, send it over to me.

I've been reading contracts all the time.

tony286 01-21-2009 09:49 PM

what type of contract is it?

RyuLion 01-21-2009 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emily Saint (Post 15370352)
Was that you in vegas at the players ball putting your butt to the glass for the bartenders?!? LOL and pouring whip cream on the glass?

where was I during this event? :helpme

Ryan St. Germain 01-21-2009 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 15370375)
as ADG said - the absence of a termination or renewal dates doesn't make a contract perpetual. so if you're worried that you might be trapped by some contract, don't. courts don't like exclusive employment contracts.

Yes, that's sort of indentured servitude. Not-to-compete clauses even have a statute of limitation (in most places).

Usually if at any time the contract terms aren't met or are violated by one party or the other, it voids the contract, leaving the person who violated it at risk of penalty, but as people mentioned, it's rare you'll get a judge to enforce a contract like that, particularly in this business (that makes it another can of worms).

but, consulting a competent lawyer is probably better than listening to us on this board ;)

Ava Knight 01-21-2009 10:00 PM

Hey Penny are you on ICQ? I don't think we talk as often as we should :) And I have some model input for this contract stuff that your typical lawyer won't think of.

Ryan St. Germain 01-21-2009 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyuLion (Post 15370508)
where was I during this event? :helpme

you were here:
http://www.ryulion.com/internext_veg...vegas_1225.jpg

Lester Burnham 01-21-2009 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penny Flame (Post 15370221)
If there is no "end" date, like expiration, does that mean that the contract goes on forever? because it doesn't say "this contract lasts forever....."

any input greatly appreciated.

Some things to consider:

1) Was the omission of a termination provision a mistake? If it was a mutual mistake, courts will try to determine intent through other evidence (e.g., documentation exchanged during the negotiations). Keep in mind that in general, agreements are normally construed against the drafter in the event of unilateral mistakes or ambiguity.

2) Was there an oral agreement with respect to term/termination? Though certain oral agreements aren't enforceable (e.g., certain loans or real property transfers), one could argue that the term and termination was set by an oral agreement between the parties. This gets more complicated if the agreement explicitly states that it is the entire agreement between the parties and the agreemet cannot be supplemented by oral agreements.

My 2 cents...

sperbonzo 01-21-2009 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 15370261)
If there's no clearly defined expiration then it should be indefinite. However, there is almost always a cancellation or termination clause. If there isn't one, then chances are the contract wasn't written by a real lawyer.
WG

What I would have said...


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ExLust 01-22-2009 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 15370273)
There is no "contract for life" when it comes to employment, so you should seek out a qualified attorney and show him/her whatever contract you have signed, and get their advice...

Good luck,

ADG

:2 cents: And hope you will be settled for best on that.


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