26k posts, gotwebhost will share your private info + goes through your servers??!?
 

1st off, 26k posts.. woo hoo. moving right a long.

so, the other day baddog decides to call me a scammer, now seeing i havent scammed anyone, i took deep offense to this. i mean its a shot at me and my bis. something like that could prevent me from making money, and ive always thought here at ole gfy if you are going to call someone out like that you had better have some fucking proof. i racked my brain for a few hours trying to think what the fuck this old bastard could be talking about, and couldnt come up with anything. clearly just a shot hes taken at me, and trying to make me look bad so i send him an email, and here is what was said in this email.

[email protected]
[email protected] Posted: 01/19/2009 14:05
Im going to give you one chance to issue both an apology and a retracting statement.
Do so with in the next 24 hours.
brand0n.


Lloyd Brown
Staff Posted: 01/19/2009 14:10
You must have a short memory.

Lloyd Brown
Director of Business Development / Tech Support
www.gotwebhost.com
ICQ 16075497
Toll Free: 888.467.8532


[email protected]
[email protected] Posted: 01/19/2009 14:13
You had better have some concrete proof to back up your statements. Not hear say, not rumors, not anything along those lines, some hard proven facts.
b


Lloyd Brown
Staff Posted: 01/19/2009 14:20
You seem to forget that you used to be a customer . . . and I am a pack rat when it comes to retaining records.

Lloyd Brown
Director of Business Development / Tech Support
www.gotwebhost.com
ICQ 16075497
Toll Free: 888.467.8532


[email protected]
[email protected] Posted: 01/19/2009 14:20
Youve got 24 hours to submit this proof, or your retractment before I escalate this.

No further communications beside one of the above will merit a response.

b


Lloyd Brown
Staff Posted: 01/19/2009 14:23
Ask your biz partner if he wants his name posted on GFY.

Lloyd Brown
Director of Business Development / Tech Support
www.gotwebhost.com
ICQ 16075497
Toll Free: 888.467.8532


[email protected]
[email protected] Posted: 01/19/2009 14:26
Post it. Feel free.
I dare you.
b.


[email protected]
[email protected] Posted: 01/19/2009 14:31
You seem to forget that Ive never scammed you nor your company nor anyone for that matter out of anything. So please, enlighten me as to what you could possibly say that Ive scammed anyone out of or about?

And while on that topic, I'm sure that the rest of the world would love to hear how you clearly go through your clients servers and are at this point clearly willing to share information on said servers with others?

I'm sure thats going to go over really well with the SEO crowd, the fact that you are going to use what ever you think you might have against me openly and with others?

Id issue the apology, but hey, be a tuff guy and lets see how this one turns out.
b


Lloyd Brown
Staff Posted: 01/19/2009 14:35
No one went through any server.

Lloyd Brown
Director of Business Development / Tech Support
www.gotwebhost.com
ICQ 16075497
Toll Free: 888.467.8532


[email protected]
[email protected] Posted: 01/19/2009 14:46
You have 24 hours. Post your "proof" or post an apology, or be stubborn and see where we go with this.
Im done responding to you.
your scamming buddy,
b


okay, so his 1st threat here is to release my partners information here on gfy. not sure about you, but thats pretty clear breach of trust. so, something to consider, if you are hosting with gotwebhost, and you and baddog ever fall off, you had better have used a fake name, as hes got no issue posting that here on gfy.

secondly, hes claiming that i am a scammer for something i did on his server? well, considering that i used a server of his for a month, and found a much better deal and moved on after that month, what the hell is he talking about?

and on that same note, unless he was served with some form of paperwork, that in that case should have clearly been forward to me (and never was) then how the hell would he even know what i was doing on his server?

that is unless he goes through clients servers?

now, i know im not 2 big on the SEO front, but i would think that those secrets are pretty well safe guarded right? how safe do you feel hosting with an "seo host" that would a) divulge who you are partners with on a board of this size and b) would seem goes through your servers when you aren't looking?

in closing, baddog, you are a fucking mutt. i hope people here truly see you for who and what you are. a liar.

I have to admit, you are denser than I thought. I honestly did not think you could come off dumber that your feonsay episode, but guess I was wrong.

What makes you think I have any idea what was going on with your server? If anything, this jump to the incorrect presumption tells me that you probably were doing something you should not have. Guess we will never know, huh?

The records I was speaking of was that your hosting was cut off for non-payment. No notice to terminate the account, just stopped paying.

Call it scamming, call it thievery, I really don't care. All I know is you ripped us off, and for you to have the gall to call me asking for more hosting is pretty ballsy of you.

And I asked permission to post your partner's name because that is the only way I can post the notice of cancellation due to non-payment. I would never post a customer's info without permission.

you are calling me a scammer because i changed hosting?!!

youve got to be fucking kidding me..

No, because you left without paying a $700+ bill with no cancel notice. You cost me money. If you had followed procedure as set forth on our site I would not have a problem with you leaving.

im out of popcorn

See sig...........

ballys of me?

and you are going to post my personal information here? my partners name here?

huge fuck up, and im sure as more people read this, they will scratch head and say it with me "WTF?"

im a scammer as i found a better deal, and while im on this, i just called my partner, the guy who you threatened to post here, he said he emailed [email protected] with a cancel request...

you can not be fucking trusted with client records, youve proved that here, and i tell you what, thats going to bite you in the fucking ass.

sig spot

I got three flavors.

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ok let me be the first one to say.....






congrats on 26k posts

im not sure if im uptodate on how hosting companies bill

on the 1st when i get my bill is that for the previous month or is that for the new month?

:1orglaugh

Love it.

You see anything wrong with that address?

It's not my business, but since it's now in public forum, I might as well throw my opinion out there.

Switching hosts and letting a service run out is hardly scamming or thievery.

That concludes my interjection, carry on good sirs.

Upcoming month plus anything "leftover" from the prior month. Extra bandwidth, upgrades, etc.

see slys post
i didnt send the email, my partner did, the guy who you threatened to post his information here, and hes looking for the email now.. dear god i hope he finds it..

:thumbsup

and i had 0 extras or upgrades.

guys a fucking loon and can not be trusted. give him your personal information and host your seo secrets with this clown if you want to.

im done with this thread now, i think ive got across what i needed 2.

have a good one baddog, you fucking mutt.

brand0n,
Don't send me this drivel. You've wasted my time with your promises of business for years. You never come through on anything. The next message you send me better be "I just sent 400 sales, can I get a bonus?" instead of telling me about some bullshit you and your old web host have. No hard feelings, just stop trying to be my friend if all you're going to do is ask for epassporte transfers and send me stupid gfy threads.

Cheers buddy.

Seems to me that he asked for permission and you gave it to him and despite that, he still has yet to do it.

Yet you've already tried and prosecuted him for it.

Micro is running on Over time right now.. Got you covered..

Cheddar Popcorn 4$ per bag.

Caramel Popcorn 6$ per bag.

:)

I LOL'ed :1orglaugh


Also, it's not the first time someone posts that baddog goes through his clients' SEO stuff for some reverse-engineering.

:warning

so baddog how did he owe you 700? he clearly says he didnt have any extras or overages form the prior month

so if he did not pay his bill for the prior month why would his server be left on to rack up a 700 bill?

Id think you would just shut him off after like the first week of no payment

I'd never host with Baddog just for the fact that how he presents himself here on the boards. All he does is mock people and act like he's above them. Who wants their business all out in the open to someone who can't act professional anywhere they represent their company?

Chris we need to work together. 2009 is the year of reconciliation. I don't hate you because you're black anymore. Let's get some money flowing back and forth with OA and Fastsize.

i hate you because you never moved to texas. Instead you are looking at vegas. :Oh crap

If hosting companies developed the practice of shutting down accounts after one week of no payment, half of the Internet would be down. It's quite amazing really.

Most companies typically leave data available for a couple months as well in case the customer comes back. When a customer leaves without notice, it really does cost the hosting company quite a bit of money and is why pretty much every company has 30 day cancellation policies.

The case at hand I know nothing about, I'm just talking in general.

Brad and Chris please get a room :)

You wanna come? I have plans for you too.

Depends on how much the monthly bill is, and how "nice" the host is in keeping the lights on for a given customer.

Simply "walking" from a hosting account is bullshit, and costs the host money. Period.

Cancel prior to your next billing period (or per the terms of service you agreed on), and there should be no issues, or legal liability, on either side.

If someone just "walks" from one of our accounts, they have already cost us one month's service before we even know they are late. By the time we go through the collections process, this can either mean one month of service is still due - or more if we had previously had a long standing business relationship and I held your service suspension out of good will. 60-90 days of service is not completely out of line for some customers who we do not shut off immediately.

I have to admit, in this industry I have become less and less likely to do the latter - even when begged to. Been burned far, far, too many times.

Mainstream clients tend to have a much better default rate than adult, it's simply a mathematical fact at this point. And as such, we now must treat accordingly.

Just my two cents on that part of it. Not weighing on on any other issue here.

-Phil

And yes.. what Sly said.

If people had a clue here as too who has "money problems" and cannot pay basic bills on time, they would be absolutely astounded. This is from my experience, and that of other colleagues at competitors.

Adult as you know it simply would not exist.

LOL
Hey Todd =)

:error:helpme:error

:1orglaugh I didn't get past "feonsay" :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

What plans?

Hey Chris,

What shaking?

Congrats on 26k! :thumbsup

Congrats on the 26k.
Good luck with your drama :thumbsup

In regards to his request to post proof. I only have one way of showing he was terminated for non-payment. If Eric had deemed brand0n's complaint as something that needed proof I would have asked for permission to give the name to him. I was not making any threats, I was just finding out if he really wanted me to post proof or not.

Unfortunately, a year or so ago I lost all my ICQ history (verifiable by a rant I made here, I am sure), so I can't post any of the assurances that we would be paid. I went the extra mile for him from the day he placed the order until the day we terminated his account.

lies. bold faced.
at no point did i ever contact you and tell you that you would be paid on anything in the future and my partner sent in a cancel request after about 2 weeks of having having a server with you.

and you can spin this how ever youd like, but that clearly looks to me like you wanted to threaten me with posting my clients information, as it clearly looks to anyone with half a brain.

the sooner you take up the job you were designed to do (door man at "hogs and mas") the better the internet would be.

Unfortunately, brand0n, you have already proven yourself to be a liar on numerous occasions. I will put up my reputation for honesty any day, can you say the same?

For the record, the very first thing I did when I tracked down the name was do a search for any and all correspondences to and from that email address.

Now, you suggested that he sent an email to a different address than ours, and that very well may be, but don't you think one simple reply to one of the several overdue notices received would have ensured we received it?

now why didnt i get any of those emails?

ive used the same email for what.. 20 fucking years?

and yet i didnt get not one

reason being?

my partner canceled.. and fuckstick here knows it. hes trying to put what ever spin control on this that he can, but its clear that a) your info is NOT SAFE with his company and b) he is a bold faced liar

now putz know that seeing that you started this shit, and wanted to call me names once youve got no ground, ill be sure to stay on top of all future ventures and/or anything else you do here to point these facts out to anyone wholl hear it.

mark that in your fucking scammer book jackass.

This thread is stupid...

I need to get me one of those :)

Why would you get emails? Your email wasn't the email of record and you know it. Please try to stay logical.

brand0n.

just post this up on http://webhostingtalk.com

also, i dont know if its true whether these guys actually look through your servers, but just the fact that this is the rumour out there, kinda scary.

Cliffnotes? Too long to read it all.
WG

oh happy days oh happy days

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:thumbsup:thumbsup

cliffs:
baddog called me a scammer.
i havent scammed anyone.
i contacted baddog and told him to retract the statement, as he had no grounds
hes now going on this "brand0n didnt cancel a server he had with me, my icq logs vanished, but its true i swear!" and can not prove anything a long the lines of what he was saying
when i contacted him he threated to post private information that he had from when i had a server with him.

in a closing, you mean to tell me that the drama driven baddog waitied what, 3 years before bringing this news to gfy? am i the only one that cant buy that? also he never mentioned it until now, to anyone, let a lone myself?

do you buy any of that shit? c'on

in closing, baddog is not to be trusted, and has magic icq logs that vanish when being called out.

I think its funny that baddog runs a seo hosting company but knows very little on the subject.

Then again he stole the idea for a tshirt from got milk

i wouldnt know what he does or dont know about seo. i do know that hes a fucking dolt who was going to divulge private information on gfy when i called him out. ill make sure to bring these facts up when ever his "hosting company" is mentioned.