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tical 01-16-2009 03:04 PM

Did ULust lower payouts from $35 to $25?
 
Have a couple of paid joins today at $25 each.

layinglow 01-16-2009 03:12 PM

i wouldn't doubt it. ulust couldnt retain for shit on revshare for me

st0ned 01-16-2009 03:40 PM

I never did much with ulust, after a few quick trial runs I gave up promoting them.

JD 01-16-2009 05:28 PM

maybe check joins or some shit?

Kristian 01-16-2009 06:08 PM

Tical, hit me up, buddy.

We're paying $75 PPS.

Let's get you earning some real money bro.

After Shock Media 01-16-2009 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian (Post 15342742)
Tical, hit me up, buddy.

We're paying $75 PPS.

Let's get you earning some real money bro.

Bad taste thread jack.

Kristian 01-16-2009 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 15342747)
Bad taste thread jack.

If you were Tical, wouldn't you like to know there's someone, reputable as well, paying $50 more per signup?

Money doesn't grow on trees, amigo.

After Shock Media 01-16-2009 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian (Post 15342760)
If you were Tical, wouldn't you like to know there's someone, reputable as well, paying $50 more per signup?

Money doesn't grow on trees, amigo.

If I was asking to be spammed with other offers - sure.
You thread jacked though when he was not even asking for offers and was just asking a specific question about a programs payouts.

dynastoned 01-16-2009 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st0ned (Post 15341734)
I never did much with ulust, after a few quick trial runs I gave up promoting them.

same....

Kristian 01-16-2009 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 15342779)
If I was asking to be spammed with other offers - sure.
You thread jacked though when he was not even asking for offers and was just asking a specific question about a programs payouts.

You know, I wish, just once, someone would say to me, "Kristian, here's some money, take it, it's yours."

This is a free market we work in. There is absolutely nothing wrong with me telling a guy he can make 50 bucks more per signup (and potentially MORE, actually) by promoting another sponsor.

If you disagree, you're delusional...or very rich. :thumbsup

tical 01-16-2009 08:50 PM

no answer from tcg? I emailed LL as well but no reply :(

Dagwolf 01-16-2009 08:51 PM

Hmm, they should definitely have notified you if they were lowering payouts...

tical 01-17-2009 12:50 PM

still no word

i guess im the only one promoting ulust? probably time to change sponsors

doridori 01-17-2009 01:13 PM

only thing about dating gold is that the geo thumb is messed up.

it displays really famous jav idols. so i doubt anyone falls for that shit.

and college display is messed too. like i live in canada, and suddenly it shows some school in the states. wtf

it'd be good if this can be addressed.

Jman 01-17-2009 01:27 PM

Tical, these are most probably check joins but I have emailed Jay so he can look into your account.

Nice going Kristian, very classy...

WiredGuy 01-17-2009 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tical (Post 15343102)
no answer from tcg? I emailed LL as well but no reply :(

Wait until Monday, we're all getting back from Vegas with hangovers... :)
WG

IllTestYourGirls 01-17-2009 01:53 PM

50 free no paid joins this payout period so I couldnt tell you :(

Jay 01-17-2009 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tical (Post 15341374)
Have a couple of paid joins today at $25 each.

Tical, can you forward me your account name so I can check it.

[email protected] - thats best email addy to contact me

Yes, we just got back from the show, I have 103 temp, but I am still here :helpme

We do not have $25 payouts, ..its $35 sale up to $50 sale, talk to me and I can get you a better rate too.

Jay 01-17-2009 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 15345622)
Wait until Monday, we're all getting back from Vegas with hangovers... :)
WG

Wait till Monday? Why, I am around every week end to answer emails or ICQ :) Where have you been. :winkwink:

Jay 01-17-2009 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean-Francois (Post 15345576)
Tical, these are most probably check joins but I have emailed Jay so he can look into your account.

Nice going Kristian, very classy...

Jman, are u really surprised....this is GFY :Oh crap

Jman 01-17-2009 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 15346140)
Jman, are u really surprised....this is GFY :Oh crap

Nope I ain't

Now you make sure you get better my friend as 2009 will be a Lustful year for all of us :winkwink:

EXPORT 01-17-2009 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean-Francois (Post 15345576)

Nice going Kristian, very classy...


I see nothing wrong with that, I know this is not the ulust support board

but after 2 hours waiting someone might chime in with anything relevant.

I am not sure about the circumstances but if tical choses gfy above any

other form of communication there must be a reason

so fair game! I think

Jay 01-17-2009 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean-Francois (Post 15346154)
Nope I ain't

Now you make sure you get better my friend as 2009 will be a Lustful year for all of us :winkwink:

ugh, i dont know what it is about Vegas during the winter months, gets me almost every time. Have my z-pack and my OJ, I should be good as new in a few days. :upsidedow

WiredGuy 01-17-2009 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 15346137)
Wait till Monday? Why, I am around every week end to answer emails or ICQ :) Where have you been. :winkwink:

After the last week of partying, I'm checking into Rehab!
WG

Thurbs 01-17-2009 11:32 PM

im sure there is a reasonable explanation to this . JB and his crew are top class, and atleast for our promotions, ULUST has always been a solid performer.

jay / lauralee / jman are all relatively easy to find at any time I've found.

tical 01-17-2009 11:41 PM

no worries, i emailed jay we'll see what he finds out

SmokeyTheBear 01-17-2009 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian (Post 15342794)
You know, I wish, just once, someone would say to me, "Kristian, here's some money, take it, it's yours."

i think we all wish that, but what does that have to do with anything , you arent offering people free money , you are offering a different product at a different price for a different cut.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian (Post 15342794)

This is a free market we work in. There is absolutely nothing wrong with me telling a guy he can make 50 bucks more per signup (and potentially MORE, actually) by promoting another sponsor.

dont think he said it was wrong , just pretty spammy seeing as how the thread wasnt inviting sponsors to offer services. kinda like if a guy showed up at your door at 4 in the morning to simply offer to save you money by switching to geico :winkwink:

p.s. you can make alot more per car selling rolls royce's in compton california but you will make more money selling hummers :thumbsup

or maybe a better example would be cornish game hens and KFC

TeenCat 01-17-2009 11:54 PM

I have apologized for my words.

WiredGuy 01-18-2009 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 15347211)
I have apologized for my words

I find that completely BS. Look at this one day ratio I had:

1,606 322 1:4 12 1:26 $300.42

That's 1606 hits that turned into 322 free profiles and 12 paid joins. If that's a shave, then they're doing a great job at it because I haven't seen other dating sponsors come even close to that.
WG

TeenCat 01-18-2009 12:04 AM

oh look, yesterday i was at the orbit of earth, partying with mona lisa and twice on trip around the world ... do you believe me?

doridori 01-18-2009 12:35 AM

just stfu teencat

Jman 01-18-2009 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 15347211)
I have apologized for my words

Isn't accusing of shaving without proof a banable offense.

ICE?????

seven 01-18-2009 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by layinglow (Post 15341468)
i wouldn't doubt it. ulust couldnt retain for shit on revshare for me

There are very few PPS sponsors depend on rebills for their PPS offers otherwise, none could offer $60 or $100 day etc. Most depend more on upsells and shit to make their money back.

TeenCat 01-18-2009 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean-Francois (Post 15348218)
Isn't accusing of shaving without proof a banable offense.

ICE?????

i can point you to thread at gfy where someone is saying that test signup didnt went through and also can send you copy of icq where my friend was saying big no no when i asked him about lustdollars, also that his testing join didnt came through your system. i am also having bad experience that to your site came from same possitions on my sites about 1/5 traffic than to any other of 10 sponsors before ... if you need that, let me know i can send you screenshots private, i dont want to put other people into what i said ...

Jdoughs 01-18-2009 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 15348230)
i can point you to thread at gfy where someone is saying that test signup didnt went through and also can send you copy of icq where my friend was saying big no no when i asked him about lustdollars, also that his testing join didnt came through your system. i am also having bad experience that to your site came from same possitions on my sites about 1/5 traffic than to any other of 10 sponsors before ... if you need that, let me know i can send you screenshots private, i dont want to put other people into what i said ...

ICQ's from some random dicksucker do not qualify as proof, nor does a link to some post where someone may or may not have said they were shaving either. You said what you said, now back it up.

Just cause your 15 hits didnt make you a dollar you've been trolling in these ulust threads. Dont say you dont want to post it here, you've made sure to say something STUPID in most of the ulust threads on this board.

TeenCat 01-18-2009 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 15348235)
ICQ's from some random dicksucker do not qualify as proof, nor does a link to some post where someone may or may not have said they were shaving either. You said what you said, now back it up.

Just cause your 15 hits didnt make you a dollar you've been trolling in these ulust threads. Dont say you dont want to post it here, you've made sure to say something STUPID in most of the ulust threads on this board.

oh cool, so what is proof? there can be no proof about this, never, just if owner say yes, we do shave ... so do i have to shut the fuck up and keep other hearing how lustdollars are great? if i see how great they are, i say that they are not ... maybe shaving was not the best word, so sorry i am taking back shaving, but still, lustdollars stats arent counting ok at least for me ... but hey, you will never hear, nobody wants to be banned here as there are and never will be no proofs ...

Jay 01-18-2009 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 15348230)
i can point you to thread at gfy where someone is saying that test signup didnt went through and also can send you copy of icq where my friend was saying big no no when i asked him about lustdollars, also that his testing join didnt came through your system. i am also having bad experience that to your site came from same possitions on my sites about 1/5 traffic than to any other of 10 sponsors before ... if you need that, let me know i can send you screenshots private, i dont want to put other people into what i said ...

How about you send that to me. We don't shave - PERIOD!!! Anyone who runs an affiliate program will tell you thats just plain stupid. Affiliates are the key to our business model, why in the hell would anyone deduct sales leaving the WM with poor sales and ratios? THINK about it. One program may work better for you than another, for a lot of different reasons.

Do your own test sign up and see! Don't go by what 'someone' posted on GFY. Since we all know if its posted on GFY, it must be true. :disgust

Jay 01-18-2009 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 15347106)
After the last week of partying, I'm checking into Rehab!
WG

LOL, I hear ya! I am glad to be back home. :winkwink:

Jman 01-18-2009 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 15348230)
i can point you to thread at gfy where someone is saying that test signup didnt went through and also can send you copy of icq where my friend was saying big no no when i asked him about lustdollars, also that his testing join didnt came through your system. i am also having bad experience that to your site came from same possitions on my sites about 1/5 traffic than to any other of 10 sponsors before ... if you need that, let me know i can send you screenshots private, i dont want to put other people into what i said ...

YOU accused us of shaving without proof... I icq'd this thread to Ice and Eric.

TeenCat 01-18-2009 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean-Francois (Post 15348250)
YOU accused us of shaving without proof... I icq'd this thread to Ice and Eric.

ok, not a big problem if he decide to ban me, finally i will took better nickname as i am a man :)

TeenCat 01-18-2009 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 15348245)
How about you send that to me. We don't shave - PERIOD!!! Anyone who runs an affiliate program will tell you thats just plain stupid. Affiliates are the key to our business model, why in the hell would anyone deduct sales leaving the WM with poor sales and ratios? THINK about it. One program may work better for you than another, for a lot of different reasons.

Do your own test sign up and see! Don't go by what 'someone' posted on GFY. Since we all know if its posted on GFY, it must be true. :disgust

of course affiliates are the key ... thats why i was amazed when i changed all my ad spots to lustdollars, and from around 3k unique hits to sponsor daily it falls to 24 in your stats ... sorry, but there must be something strange ... as i am not doing test signups i cannot prove more by myself, so i asked and searched and got my answers ...

seven 01-18-2009 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 15348270)
of course affiliates are the key ... thats why i was amazed when i changed all my ad spots to lustdollars, and from around 3k unique hits to sponsor daily it falls to 24 in your stats ... sorry, but there must be something strange ... as i am not doing test signups i cannot prove more by myself, so i asked and searched and got my answers ...

Dude, if you don't like them don't promote them. You cannot just go on and accuse any sponsor of shaving just because you think they are shaving.

You say you sent 3k uniques so how did you count it? Maybe your script is not that great in counting? Also, number of your 3k uniques may have left their pages before their page loaded, in that case, your uniques won't register either. PPS is a bit different method than revshare where cookies are set for a shorter period of time, sites have lots of upsales, pop-ups etc, they don't quite have to shave you to make their monies so chill and stop making yourself sounding like a newbie. I see from your gfy signup date you must've been in biz since atleast 2007 so you couldn't be that new to this shit.

Babaganoosh 01-18-2009 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian (Post 15342742)
Tical, hit me up, buddy.

We're paying $75 PPS.

Let's get you earning some real money bro.

Wow, you're a douchebag..."bro."

Brujah 01-18-2009 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 15347234)
I find that completely BS. Look at this one day ratio I had:

1,606 322 1:4 12 1:26 $300.42

That's 1606 hits that turned into 322 free profiles and 12 paid joins. If that's a shave, then they're doing a great job at it because I haven't seen other dating sponsors come even close to that.
WG

See? WG only gets $25 per too! $300 / 12 = $25
:1orglaugh

Jay 01-18-2009 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15348400)
See? WG only gets $25 per too! $300 / 12 = $25
:1orglaugh

I believe those would be revshare stats, not pps :winkwink:

gooddomains 01-18-2009 08:44 AM

they are good guys

O MARINA 01-18-2009 12:18 PM

Ulust = good peoples :thumbsup

WiredGuy 01-18-2009 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15348400)
See? WG only gets $25 per too! $300 / 12 = $25
:1orglaugh

That's revshare, and don't forget to include 30c/male and 1.50/female profile ontop.
WG

Varius 01-18-2009 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 15348245)
Anyone who runs an affiliate program will tell you thats just plain stupid.

FYI, some of them will be lying. If you think NO program in the industry "shaves" right now, you are mistaken. Having seen the source code of many programs, I can assure you it is being done, and being done incorrectly with many of them where it's easily found out heh.

Generally though, it's easy enough for someone to test a program out for themselves and draw their own conclusions.

Also, IMO, the ones shaving are generally found amongst those who offer ridiculously high payouts. Their thinking is probably "hrm, we can afford to pay $50/join but if we shave we can offer a very attractive $100/join but still really only pay $50". What they don't notice is a lot of affiliates (obviously not large ones) STILL look at conversions, not RPC (revenue per click) when comparing sponsors and will drop them even if they make the same money if the ratio looks bad. Thus their shaving doesn't necessarily help them :2 cents:

That said, as you guys show solid conversions from the different places we've sent you traffic and pay in the $35-50 range, I would NOT suspect you guys of shaving anything...


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