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Pics Traffic 01-12-2009 06:59 AM

Do DMCA email work of sites like pornbb or its a waste of time.
 
Just wondering. Is it worth time writing to them or they are behind bulet proof glass and just ignore them. I see DMCA link but by looking at all of those rips Im starting to doubt they give a damn.

Klen 01-12-2009 07:01 AM

Howmuch i see they mostly have rapidshare links so maybe it will be better to concetrate there.

nation-x 01-12-2009 07:05 AM

If you email the host you should get a response

TeenCat 01-12-2009 07:08 AM

email pornbb they care about DMCA they will put you on banned sites list ...

TisMe 01-12-2009 07:10 AM

The site may not care, but their host, and their host's host likely do. Send them all the way up the hosting provider line and look for any other service providers and send to them also.

TeenCat 01-12-2009 07:16 AM

"They've requested/we've decided we not allow their content, due to any reason."

contact pornbb admins ... contacting host will do nothing at thousand times in the past ... or you think nobody tried to bring pornbb down before? :)

CIVMatt 01-12-2009 07:27 AM

pornbb rules the universe and doesn't care about your problems sadly enough... neither does their host :(

notoldschool 01-12-2009 08:18 AM

Please send one a let us know how it goes. I love the tubes with a link to email contact for illegal videos that bounce. Fuckin sweet.

Klen 01-12-2009 08:21 AM

Speaking about their host,it is know as host which ignores dmca so sending there wont help anything.

nation-x 01-12-2009 08:43 AM

Don't you love the adbrite ads at the top of pornbb?

Klen 01-12-2009 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 15316222)
Don't you love the adbrite ads at the top of pornbb?

There is huge number of sites with ilegall content(not just tube sites)which makes revenue by doing nothing else then selling traffic to brokers like adbrite and adultadworld.

CMBurns 02-13-2009 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 15315929)
email pornbb they care about DMCA they will put you on banned sites list ...

seriously? their admins pirate content and post it. If they gave a shit about dmca they wouldn't steal fucking content to begin with

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-13-2009 11:16 PM

pornbb is a great place to have your staff get videos for your tubes.. :2 cents:

SomeCreep 02-13-2009 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MOCKBA (Post 15315899)
Just wondering. Is it worth time writing to them or they are behind bulet proof glass and just ignore them. I see DMCA link but by looking at all of those rips Im starting to doubt they give a damn.

They work until surfers upload your content again two days later.

$5 submissions 02-14-2009 03:26 AM

I wonder how Hosts handle DMCA issues. Do they force you to exhaust your options with the website itself or can you jump ahead of the line and hit up the host directly?

Profits of Doom 02-14-2009 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 15492487)
I wonder how Hosts handle DMCA issues. Do they force you to exhaust your options with the website itself or can you jump ahead of the line and hit up the host directly?

Here's the thing, sites like pornbb just post Rapidshare, Megaupload, Depositfiles, etc. links to the videos, and even the screen caps are hotlinked from image hosts like Image Venue, Picture Bang, etc., so they aren't hosting any stolen content on their servers. There was a time that you would get hosts to shut them off for this, but now even mainstream hosts like Host Gator don't give a shit because they are not hosting the content on their servers. So sending a DMCA to one of these sites is worthless. Pornbb claims to have a list of sites that you can't post links to, but those sites' links are still all over their site, and they do little to nothing to stop it.

You have a lot more recourse with a tube site, but when it comes to a Rapidshare forum or blog most of them will laugh at your requests, as will the hosts. The good news is most file sharing sites and image hosts will pull the content, even if you aren't the copyright holder. Just send them a generic e-mail with the link to the content on their server and they will pull it, period, no questions asked. They are way too understaffed to investigate every claim, so they just pull them all...

$5 submissions 02-14-2009 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 15316451)
There is huge number of sites with ilegall content(not just tube sites)which makes revenue by doing nothing else then selling traffic to brokers like adbrite and adultadworld.

What? AFF is not available? :winkwink::1orglaugh

$5 submissions 02-14-2009 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 15492528)
Here's the thing, sites like pornbb just post Rapidshare, Megaupload, Depositfiles, etc. links to the videos, and even the screen caps are hotlinked from image hosts like Image Venue, Picture Bang, etc., so they aren't hosting any stolen content on their servers. There was a time that you would get hosts to shut them off for this, but now even mainstream hosts like Host Gator don't give a shit because they are not hosting the content on their servers. So sending a DMCA to one of these sites is worthless. Pornbb claims to have a list of sites that you can't post links to, but those sites' links are still all over their site, and they do little to nothing to stop it.

You have a lot more recourse with a tube site, but when it comes to a Rapidshare forum or blog most of them will laugh at your requests, as will the hosts. The good news is most file sharing sites and image hosts will pull the content, even if you aren't the copyright holder. Just send them a generic e-mail with the link to the content on their server and they will pull it, period, no questions asked. They are way too understaffed to investigate every claim, so they just pull them all...

Thank you for the thorough response, Profits. Much appreciated. I see opportunity in this passage:

"The good news is most file sharing sites and image hosts will pull the content, even if you aren't the copyright holder. Just send them a generic e-mail with the link to the content on their server and they will pull it, period, no questions asked. They are way too understaffed to investigate every claim, so they just pull them all..."

I wonder if there's a way to semi-automate this process? Theres a service called removemycontent or something like that. I wonder if they use semi-automated systems or just cover "the usual suspects" of forums, tubes, and link dump sites.

Someone posted earlier that it's still pretty much an open legal question if LINKING to infringing materials is a form of infringment. I guess no content producer or industry group wants to bother with the time or the resource to "make new law" by bringing this question to court through a test case?

Profits of Doom 02-14-2009 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 15492540)
Thank you for the thorough response, Profits. Much appreciated. I see opportunity in this passage:

"The good news is most file sharing sites and image hosts will pull the content, even if you aren't the copyright holder. Just send them a generic e-mail with the link to the content on their server and they will pull it, period, no questions asked. They are way too understaffed to investigate every claim, so they just pull them all..."

I wonder if there's a way to semi-automate this process? Theres a service called removemycontent or something like that. I wonder if they use semi-automated systems or just cover "the usual suspects" of forums, tubes, and link dump sites.

Someone posted earlier that it's still pretty much an open legal question if LINKING to infringing materials is a form of infringment. I guess no content producer or industry group wants to bother with the time or the resource to "make new law" by bringing this question to court through a test case?

In my opinion the only content producers that you could bank on bringing it to court are some of the gay content providers, like Titan Media. They have been the only program that I have seen that have actively sued to protect their copyrights. I have seen links to different court opinions where linking to copyrighted material has been argued as legal and illegal, but I doubt you could count on most programs to try and fight it in court due to the costs and the limited recourse for collecting if you win.

Removeyourcontent.com is the service you were talking about, and they are awesome. I'm not privy to what they are doing to pull links, but I wouldn't be surprised if they have figured out some automated solution. The thing is it doesn't benefit them to try and DMCA all links, just the links for the people that hire them. I used to chat with the owner, Eric, before he started his service, since we both used to report links to content we were promoting, the thought being if we were trying to make money off it it benefited us for it not to be readily available free.

A few months ago, I believe some of the people promoting tranny content were ganging up and reporting all links to tranny content they could find (I think they were all from a tranny webmaster forum I can't mention here). I remember some big forums like planetsuzy had hundreds of pages of links to tranny content deleted from the file sharing sites, and some of the posters were so pissed they gave up and quit posting. For whatever reason the people reporting the links quit, but it just goes to show something could be done if anyone cared enough to put in the time...

k0nr4d 02-14-2009 06:41 AM

You will probably have better luck getting your content off rapidshare and the other file hosts.

DarkJedi 02-14-2009 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MOCKBA (Post 15315899)
Just wondering. Is it worth time writing to them or they are behind bulet proof glass and just ignore them. I see DMCA link but by looking at all of those rips Im starting to doubt they give a damn.

send the DMCA to them, then to their hoist and google.

DarkJedi 02-14-2009 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TisMe (Post 15315939)
The site may not care, but their host, and their host's host likely do. Send them all the way up the hosting provider line and look for any other service providers and send to them also.

This is the correct DMCA.

SGS 02-14-2009 07:12 AM

RYC are awesome guys. :2 cents:


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