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Nineteen85 12-15-2008 10:02 AM

CSS or HTML??
 
From a customers point of view?

99% of designers i know prefer CSS, but what about the client?

Would it make the slightest difference to them if their site was coded in CSS or in HTML with tables, etc.

MetaMan 12-15-2008 10:03 AM

i find it the other way around 99% of clients want CSS 1% of designers can do it properly.

i dont see why surfers would care about the different kind of code, they just want content at high speed of a site. and imo CSS is more compressed code thus it loads your content faster.

mona 12-15-2008 10:05 AM

CSS is beneficial with regards to SEO, so the client may care about that. However, from a design perspective, I wouldn't think so...CSS = Less work and mess ups for the designers (dos centavos).

StuartD 12-15-2008 10:09 AM

Uhmm.... CSS is an extension of HTML, not a replacement.
If you are trying to replace one with the other, you don't know it as well as you think you do. :2 cents:

alexchechs 12-15-2008 10:10 AM

CSS is great for both people. But I agree... not many people know how to code it very clean......

hornycult 12-15-2008 10:11 AM

I'm for 50/50 , actually its depends on what type of site you are working on

Vixenator 12-15-2008 10:15 AM

There is no "CSS or HTML", there is HTML with or without CSS since CSS isn't a replacement, it's merely an supplement to HTML.

Maybe it would help your understanding of these things if you started by researching what these letter combination actually stand for? :2 cents:

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-15-2008 10:18 AM

CSS is HTML.... :2 cents:

HorseShit 12-15-2008 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 15198526)
Uhmm.... CSS is an extension of HTML, not a replacement.
If you are trying to replace one with the other, you don't know it as well as you think you do. :2 cents:

:2 cents:

ungratefulninja 12-15-2008 10:19 AM

I can only hope they meant tables vs CSS.

tranza 12-15-2008 11:11 AM

Flash. :D

skrinkladoo 12-15-2008 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 15198503)
i find it the other way around 99% of clients want CSS 1% of designers can do it properly.

i dont see why surfers would care about the different kind of code, they just want content at high speed of a site. and imo CSS is more compressed code thus it loads your content faster.

- exactly! I find a healthy mix of the 2 can be solid. Fact is most designers can't really do either. Sad but true.

mrwilson 12-15-2008 11:22 AM

tabless xhtml/css is all i work with.
I refuse to do tables.

mona 12-15-2008 11:29 AM

Also, there is no "one" way to use CSS with HTML...You can also use the CSS codes in the html page header, a .css file and link to it in the HTML page header (i know, basic explanation), you can use CSS and tables...It's like everyone's saying, it's not really an either or...

skrinkladoo 12-15-2008 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vixenator (Post 15198543)
There is no "CSS or HTML", there is HTML with or without CSS since CSS isn't a replacement, it's merely an supplement to HTML.

Maybe it would help your understanding of these things if you started by researching what these letter combination actually stand for? :2 cents:

- Historically semi correct. However fast forward to 2008/2009 (today) - its seen by masses to be seperate. Truth: Whatever makes the resume look best ...

CSS - Think Styles
HTML - Think Layout

CSS advanced HTML, and in XHML (the reason i say "semi") the point is more valid.

Regardless of what makes or doesnt make the resume look different, and against the grain of this post - they are different, they are not the same. HTML is not CSS or vice versa - Styles versus Layout.

But no need to argue because they are both low-end ... front-end, dont they teach this stuff in elementary?

skrinkladoo 12-15-2008 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retox Josh (Post 15198554)
CSS is HTML.... :2 cents:

I love the sig, but this quote isnt nearly as intelligent as the brain power it took to put this killer sig up.

scouser 12-15-2008 01:02 PM

by html i take it you mean a layout coded with things like tables, inline styles, <font family... etc type coding. and if so -- using external css files, and no stylying in the html has MANY advantages. (9 times out of 10 - displays better on devices like mobiles etc, smaller file sizes (less b/w, faster load times), slightly better for seo, a lot easier to maintain)

i know some people spend a few hundred extra bucks to get a faster server, but still have like 200-300kb of wasted space in their html of each page. a lot of designers just slice things up in photoshop, so when a 1px wide( or high ) background image could be tiled, they end up using a 300px wide (or high) image. Then another identical (but different file) for the same bit a bit below it etc etc.....

scouser 12-15-2008 01:03 PM

Also, try doing a site JUST with css. lol.

(as others pointed out, its not a case of exclusively css or html. they compliment each other. although of course css isn't required.

Deej 12-15-2008 01:03 PM

Css ftw imo rofl

Basic_man 12-15-2008 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vixenator (Post 15198543)
There is no "CSS or HTML", there is HTML with or without CSS since CSS isn't a replacement, it's merely an supplement to HTML.

Maybe it would help your understanding of these things if you started by researching what these letter combination actually stand for? :2 cents:

Got it ! :thumbsup

sysk 12-15-2008 01:07 PM

CSS = graceful degradation, better accessibility, better SEO, better maintainability, better portability, better semantics, better W3C standards compliance

Do you need more ? :)

Ninja_Pete 12-15-2008 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 15198526)
Uhmm.... CSS is an extension of HTML, not a replacement.
If you are trying to replace one with the other, you don't know it as well as you think you do. :2 cents:

LOL. I was thinking the same thing.

thinkhype 12-15-2008 04:35 PM

what he said.

Better off to go fully CSS than with Tables.

dailyduke 12-15-2008 04:49 PM

tableless is the way to go.
How did you not know CSS was a way of styling the code?

calmlikeabomb 12-15-2008 04:59 PM

lol @ html is css.


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