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gideongallery 12-05-2008 08:44 AM

obama embraces creative common
 
Yet, that a Creative Commons license has been embraced by the President-Elect means good things. Most importantly, that the President has knowledge of less-restrictive copyright methods, and first-hand experience that not only do they work, but that the sky doesn?t fall down when they are used, cannot hurt. That the license chosen was, in Lessig?s words, the ?freest license? is more encouraging still.

One can only hope that when the likes of the RIAA and MPAA come to talk about further strengthening copyright, he turns around and says, ?I?ve been using these great CC licenses, have you heard of them?? Regardless, it?s a great boost to Creative Commons, as they prepare to celebrate their sixth birthday.


http://torrentfreak.com/obama-embrac...ommons-081202/

to all the anti- safe harbor provision/ pro draconian copyright law content producers

http://img2.abload.de/img/simpsons_nelson_haha2uwr.jpg

leek 12-05-2008 08:47 AM

This is actually bigger news than most realize. This coupled with his support of Net Neutrality means the internet stays free for a little longer.

PornNewz 12-05-2008 08:49 AM

ahh, I love it when no money, no company, no assets whining turds post on this board and pretend like their not sad that their mother didn't love them.
:1orglaugh

mikesinner 12-05-2008 08:50 AM

I doubt it will affect our industry that much.

SteveLightspeed 12-05-2008 08:50 AM

Why does GFY let you post your CONSTANT BULLSHIT? You contribute NOTHING.

HorseShit 12-05-2008 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornNewz (Post 15148436)
ahh, I love it when no money, no company, no assets whining turds post on this board and pretend like their not sad that their mother didn't love them.
:1orglaugh

Seriously, do you think anyone here gives a shit about PornNewz? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

PornNewz 12-05-2008 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdavis (Post 15148475)
Seriously, do you think anyone here gives a shit about PornNewz? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

gideongallery 12-05-2008 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 15148441)
Why does GFY let you post your CONSTANT BULLSHIT? You contribute NOTHING.

well maybe because i represent the only balance to the content producer whining
maybe because what i have been saying about the law, and the business changes that need to be made have been right every time.
or maybe it just because i get page views :winkwink:

Agent 488 12-05-2008 09:21 AM

what the fuck do torrent sites have to do with creative commons idiot? fuck all.

Fletch XXX 12-05-2008 09:24 AM

wonder if this one is even worth a siggy spot??

gideongallery 12-05-2008 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 15148886)
what the fuck do torrent sites have to do with creative commons idiot? fuck all.

creative common has to do with the right to modify and redistribute content.
It is designed from the ground up to be respectful of fair use rights.

understanding that means that you have to understand fair use.

torrent can be used as a back up solution (fair use) a recovery solution (fair use).

by it very nature the seeder is committing no crime (he is never giving away a single copy of the file -- only non working copies) if you recognize the fair use right of using a torrent as most effective backup solution (for non confidential data) ever invented.

having a president who understands this is good for fair use and bad for copyright nazi

Agent 488 12-05-2008 10:13 AM

yeah i know what it is fuckhead.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 15149392)
creative common has to do with the right to modify and redistribute content.
It is designed from the ground up to be respectful of fair use rights.

understanding that means that you have to understand fair use.

torrent can be used as a back up solution (fair use) a recovery solution (fair use).

by it very nature the seeder is committing no crime (he is never giving away a single copy of the file -- only non working copies) if you recognize the fair use right of using a torrent as most effective backup solution (for non confidential data) ever invented.

having a president who understands this is good for fair use and bad for copyright nazi


Halcyon 12-05-2008 10:14 AM

It clearly shows that he has technology advisers that *get* it. I think it's an awesome sign.

gideongallery 12-05-2008 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 15149417)
It clearly shows that he has technology advisers that *get* it. I think it's an awesome sign.

welcome to the dark side hal

the hotness factor was sorely lacking with ugly fucks like me being the only ones defending fair use and fair use friendly liciencing.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Halcyon 12-05-2008 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 15149586)
welcome to the dark side hal

the hotness factor was sorely lacking with ugly fucks like me being the only ones defending fair use and fair use friendly liciencing.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Creative commons is not a replacement for copyright and I'm not sure how it affects fair use or what it has to do with torrents. Illigal is still illegal.

To me, is much more relevant for the mash up culture. Where art and artist can encourage others to remix and re-use. But it is a CHOICE by the copyright owner, no?

In essence, Sponsors & TGP's have been embracing a similar idea for a long time. "You can use this content that I designate, but give me credit/a link back."

Creative Commons simply allows these things to happen without lawyers, contracts, etc. But the scope of the license is still CHOSEN by the content owner.

gideongallery 12-05-2008 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 15149732)
Creative commons is not a replacement for copyright and I'm not sure how it affects fair use or what it has to do with torrents. Illigal is still illegal.

there is no way anyone can claim that creative common is a replacement for copyright nor have i ever made such a statement. The fact that fair use was defined in the original copyright act and defined as exemption from the normal exclusive rights granted by the act.

Creative common was created out of the intelectual papers which descibed and condemed the overstepping of current copyright laws to control content distribution. The squashing of fair use free expression (parody, commentary). It was an attempt to prove that copyright holders didn't need to dictetorially control content (stomping all over fair use) and could even extend those rights beyond those granted explictly by the law and still make money.


Quote:

To me, is much more relevant for the mash up culture. Where art and artist can encourage others to remix and re-use. But it is a CHOICE by the copyright owner, no?
the point i am making is that obama seems to get it, which means he is going to be more fair use friendly. Right like access shifting (currently not yet established by case law) would be more likely to be respected by future laws.


Quote:

In essence, Sponsors & TGP's have been embracing a similar idea for a long time. "You can use this content that I designate, but give me credit/a link back."

Creative Commons simply allows these things to happen without lawyers, contracts, etc. But the scope of the license is still CHOSEN by the content owner.
i am not arguing with you about the fundamentals of the liciencing schema, i understand them quite well. I just know the history behind them, the principles they were founded on and the consequences of the government finally getting those principles.

Fair use has gotten a significant advocate.

Kudles 12-05-2008 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 15148441)
Why does GFY let you post your CONSTANT BULLSHIT? You contribute NOTHING.

Your so nice and cheery!!!

Agent 488 12-05-2008 11:14 AM

i am access shifting a joran capri site rip right now.


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