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2012 11-25-2008 12:31 PM

Blog Writing Services ?
 
I'm not knocking people that write for others but. I can't help but think it's kind of like the "SEO for hire" guys. I thought about doing this at one point but , why write for someone else? It's time consuming and your time would be better spent writing your own copy.
You can't help but think they are just morphing your posts out anyway like most of the entire internets:2 cents::Oh crap

When you write your own you don't have to worry that it's been "duped" already. I know some people probably just want to sit around and write for other people but like SEO if you're so good why aren't you doing it yourself? Just a thought ...

Nicky 11-25-2008 12:33 PM

Some thruth there but when you start having big blog network it kinda sucks to write say 100 posts a day your self. I am currently on a rampage and writing 30+ updates a day at the moment and It's taking too much time already.

DannysReviews|com 11-25-2008 12:34 PM

I've had this thought many times.

The money is right upfront and you don't have to worry about making further sales. That's how I reasoned it. I do both my own and I write for others.

You're right though, if the person has experience in both and people are still buying porn it's more favorable to write your own.

moeloubani 11-25-2008 12:37 PM

hi!!

that's a very good point and something im sure lots of people think of

but you have to remember who is actually doing the writing

when i write im writing for my own sites, but when i hire students from school to write then all theyre interested in is the quick money

so now i have students that are ready to write for me, but lets say i have nothing for them to write about at the time or id rather write my own thing at that time but the fact still remains i have these awesome writers just itching to tap their keyboard

i can tell them to fuck off, or i can put them to work and make a little extra money on the side which ive been doing with great results! theyre happy, im happy, and if i ever do need someone to write for me i get a great employee discount :P

2012 11-25-2008 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 15103820)
Some thruth there but when you start having big blog network it kinda sucks to write say 100 posts a day your self. I am currently on a rampage and writing 30+ updates a day to some of my blogs at the moment and It's taking too much time already.

If you keep your blogs linked together pretty much in a niche you just need to update a couple on your network at a time :2 cents: Spred things out over time

I'm talking about these guys that have a bunch of "writers" working for them around the world. These guys have stacks of posts eventually and they aren't going to use them down the line?

I would rather "partner up" with other writers("friends") at least you know they have a stake in the blog. Thinking about it.

crockett 11-25-2008 12:43 PM

The problem with writing services is, for someone doing a large scale they are just too much money. I mean lets say I wanted 100 posts a week. That's $300 a week if you figure the average service charges $3 per post (assuming it's quality).

That breaks down to being only 20 posts per day if you figure a 5 day work week. You could easily hire a local college student for that same money and likely get more posts out of them for the same money. Of course you would have to train them, but still I think you would be better off.

Not knocking the writing services out there as I've used a few and had good results, but it's just too expensive in the long run at the average prices. Then when you get down to it, 100 posts a week isn't even large scale, so it could really add up.

Nicky 11-25-2008 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 15103872)
The problem with writing services is, for someone doing a large scale they are just too much money. I mean lets say I wanted 100 posts a week. That's $300 a week if you figure the average service charges $3 per post (assuming it's quality).

That breaks down to being only 20 posts per day if you figure a 5 day work week. You could easily hire a local college student for that same money and likely get more posts out of them for the same money. Of course you would have to train them, but still I think you would be better off.

Not knocking the writing services out there as I've used a few and had good results, but it's just too expensive in the long run at the average prices. Then when you get down to it, 100 posts a week isn't even large scale, so it could really add up.

It all comes down to how much money your blogs are returning or atleast how much money you think they will be returning in a not so distant future. If you have 20 decent sized blogs getting updated 5 times a week each and the cost for that is $1200 a month, well then hopefully you will be making enough to turn a profit on it and reinvest.

But of course if you can get the writing done cheaper, even better.

crockett 11-25-2008 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 15103887)
It all comes down to how much money your blogs are returning or atleast how much money you think they will be returning in a not so distant future. If you have 20 decent sized blogs getting updated 5 times a week each and the cost for that is $1200 a month, well then hopefully you will be making enough to turn a profit on it and reinvest.

But of course if you can get the writing done cheaper, even better.

Well it's not so much about the profit margins, it's that I think you can get more for your money by just hiring someone local for that same amount of money. You would have better control on what gets posted as well because you could easily dictate changes on the fly if needed and so on.

Ayla_SquareTurtle 11-25-2008 02:37 PM

I think the blog writing services work best for large, established blogs with traffic. If you know you can get at least a sale or two off of any new posts just based on traffic volume, why wouldn't you spend $3 each? Or even more? You're still easily making profit, and you're freeing up your time to do other things like link trades, etc.

It's tough for new blogs without an existing network to feed them traffic, and I think a lot of newbies or at least blog newbies don't really understand how long it can take to start getting traffic. Five or ten posts isn't going to cut it. They want to update regularly, but it's a lot tougher to justify that cost when you are virtually guaranteed NOT to make a sale on them for quite some time.

Personally I have found that writing blog entries for others cannot be my main business anymore, and unless you want to work for office-temp rates at $10-12/hour, I don't see how anyone could make it their full time biz. I still do a few here and there, but I mostly have my local assistant writer do them and focus my time on reviews.

InternetIsForPorn 11-25-2008 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DannysReviews|com (Post 15103822)
I've had this thought many times.

The money is right upfront and you don't have to worry about making further sales. That's how I reasoned it. I do both my own and I write for others.

You're right though, if the person has experience in both and people are still buying porn it's more favorable to write your own.

Exactly.

For example, I hate uploading files via ftp. I just hate it.

So instead of building a site for myself, writing a lot of content and such I'd rather offer my time more effectively to other people.

So if I'd spend 10 hours building a site and then 10 hours building the content for that site, I'd rather spend 20 hours just writing content for someone who'd spend 1 hour building the site.

It's complicated a bit, I know.

Think of webdesign agencies. "So why don't you like start a [insert industry here] business and design a killer site that will make huge sales instead of designing sites for other people?".

V_RocKs 11-25-2008 03:07 PM

I had a guy that worked for me and he did posts at $6 a post. We are talking medium quality grammar, high quality pics, medium quality in what he was writing about and high quality linking.

Over the course of 1 year he wrote about 300 posts for me.

Cost: $1800 spread out over a year.
Return: It took about 1 1/4 years to make the money back on his posts. After that all money was gravy.

At the time he wrote for me my blogs were brand new. Had I had perhaps 20K a day in traffic I think I would have made my money back in as little as 2 months or less. If you have high traffic paying for posts is an amazing idea. If you are brand new it is something you need to be into for the long term.

Now he posts his own posts to my blogs. He gets my traffic, I get increased traffic based on getting new posts... which see my ads and my own posts... We both like this arrangement better.

Supz 11-25-2008 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fartfly (Post 15103808)
I'm not knocking people that write for others but. I can't help but think it's kind of like the "SEO for hire" guys. I thought about doing this at one point but , why write for someone else? It's time consuming and your time would be better spent writing your own copy.
You can't help but think they are just morphing your posts out anyway like most of the entire internets:2 cents::Oh crap

When you write your own you don't have to worry that it's been "duped" already. I know some people probably just want to sit around and write for other people but like SEO if you're so good why aren't you doing it yourself? Just a thought ...

If you get foreigners to do it for you for $1 a post, would you sell it to someone else for $5 a post? I assume most of the people doing the actual writing aren't site owners. I also dont think the writing is as important for SEO as the Title is.

2012 11-25-2008 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by supzdotcom (Post 15104992)
If you get foreigners to do it for you for $1 a post, would you sell it to someone else for $5 a post? I assume most of the people doing the actual writing aren't site owners.

I'm not busting anyone's balls for managing a blog service, I'm asking the obvious questions. If you have a blog service the only way you're making money and here I'm assuming ... is paying someone squat for it. Nobody gets a free lunch and some deals are too good to be true :2 cents: . I'm not talking about anybody I've worked with. I just don't think it's a good idea anymore. Some situations I'm sure it is ...

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Originally Posted by supzdotcom (Post 15104992)
I also dont think the writing is as important for SEO as the Title is.

okay then :xmas-smil16

smutnut 11-25-2008 05:27 PM

This certainly puts an entirely new angle on the screenwriter/agent relationship in Hollywood. Maybe the agents should just write their own shit too, and the directors should start acting. But what are the producers going to start doing?:1orglaugh

2012 11-25-2008 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 15105173)
This certainly puts an entirely new angle on the screenwriter/agent relationship in Hollywood. Maybe the agents should just write their own shit too, and the directors should start acting. But what are the producers going to start doing?:1orglaugh

I thought you killed yourself :1orglaugh:Oh crap.
Glad you're still here. The producers can do just what they've always done. Get high and fuck talent ... :2 cents:

smutnut 11-25-2008 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fartfly (Post 15105197)
I thought you killed yourself :1orglaugh:Oh crap.
Glad you're still here. The producers can do just what they've always done. Get high and fuck talent ... :2 cents:

Damn I want to be a producer! That's the only thing I ain't done yet! I mean sleep with the talent:1orglaugh

2012 11-25-2008 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 15105204)
Damn I want to be a producer! That's the only thing I ain't done yet! I mean sleep with the talent:1orglaugh

wow, I want a tgp too ! :1orglaugh


smutnut 11-25-2008 05:41 PM

so if you go back and start writing your own blog posts and save all this money on hiring writers, you'll probably get rich enough to get your own tgp and invest the profits in dirty movies where you can sleep with the talent.

Or something like that. Play around with the order of events on give yourself the titles you need when you need them.

smutnut 11-25-2008 05:50 PM

If you can't get a blowjob in the Oral Office there's no point to being male any longer.

2012 11-25-2008 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 15105295)
If you can't get a blowjob in the Oral Office there's no point to being male any longer.

I guess :xmas-smil16

Nicky 11-25-2008 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 15104538)

Now he posts his own posts to my blogs. He gets my traffic, I get increased traffic based on getting new posts... which see my ads and my own posts... We both like this arrangement better.

That's a nice setup


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