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  • donnylong
    So Fucking Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 2164

    #1

    how many of you really know whats going on?





    I was surfing porn today on a tube site that another thread here said brazzers owns and the first thing i see is everyone elses porn but brazzers on it WTF? Here is a scene that was shot next door to me by traffic cash gold I know this because i know that directors voice and that set and I have fucked that girl before in a scene hehehehe. http://www.keezmovies.com/417823 20 min 56 sec with a pop free of charge WTF?

    I wonder if TCG knows about this? I am sure they do I mean they must, everyone's shit is on there all over the place?

    Here is another from one of top bucks sites Asian parade http://www.keezmovies.com/422544 40 min 14 sec. with a pop how do i know this I use to work for them as talent for years I know the set and director!

    Now does top bucks now about this?? and do they care? if they don't I would like to know why because I don't see any banners from top bucks or traffic cash gold on this tube site so how can they let them do this? All I can say if they do have a problem with it dont do what everyone else does and ask they to please take down your shit because it will go up again. take screen shots and file a sue a big one!
  • Fletch XXX
    GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
    • Jan 2002
    • 60840

    #2
    mother fuckers!

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    • crockett
      in a van by the river
      • May 2003
      • 76818

      #3
      Yea nothing new.. just a new site on a new day. Seems not many care to do anything about it as far as going after the site owners.
      In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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      • BusterBunny
        perverted justice decoy
        • Aug 2005
        • 19291

        #4
        i may not know what is going on, but i do know bird is the word
        my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died

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        • stever
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2005
          • 1716

          #5
          internet 2.0
          everyone stealing from everyone


          Brutal Bucks has extreme sites that convert!

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          • donnylong
            So Fucking Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 2164

            #6
            Originally posted by crockett
            Yea nothing new.. just a new site on a new day. Seems not many care to do anything about it as far as going after the site owners.
            Yea but why? This is our money they are fucking with!!! why dont they do anything about it?? all it would take is one good hefty sue or penalty correct me if i am wrong? maybe a judge saying any company caught doing this cant do any biz on the net for 6 months or a year and has to pay a large fine?

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            • WarChild
              Let slip the dogs of war.
              • Jan 2003
              • 17263

              #7
              Originally posted by donnylong
              Now does top bucks now about this?? and do they care? if they don't I would like to know why because I don't see any banners from top bucks or traffic cash gold on this tube site so how can they let them do this? All I can say if they do have a problem with it dont do what everyone else does and ask they to please take down your shit because it will go up again. take screen shots and file a sue a big one!
              Unfortunately, the language of the DMCA makes it so they have to send a DMCA notice. The tube site then takes down the "user uploaded conent", and have then complied. You can't just jump right to suing someone without taking the proper steps first.

              It's obviously a loop hole. It's also obvious that "user uploaded" sometimes, if not most often, means that the tube site themselves are doing it. You could buy a trial membership at any major sponsor, and have your outsourced worker ripping and uploading movies and it would hardly cost anything at all.

              That's the problem. Either DMCA needs to be changed, or google needs to lose to Viacom over youtube. Until then, it's kind of tricky.
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              • moeloubani
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2007
                • 4235

                #8
                DMCA is a joke, you can't get in trouble for stealing you can only get in trouble for not giving it back

                But either way, you're giving people looking for porn 40 minute porns, why? It's stupid as shit stolen or not.

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                • aico
                  Moo Moo Cow
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 14748

                  #9
                  fuck, for a second I thought my time machine worked.

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                  • JustDaveXxx
                    I AM JUSTDAVE !
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 4111

                    #10
                    I think you should spear head the move against tube sites. Everyone knows that u can be a serious pain in the ass when you put your mind to it. It kinda blows to be at the end of your wrath.


                    Go get em donny!!!!


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                    • donnylong
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 2164

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JustDaveXxx
                      I think you should spear head the move against tube sites. Everyone knows that u can be a serious pain in the ass when you put your mind to it. It kinda blows to be at the end of your wrath.


                      Go get em donny!!!!
                      donny long saves the industry again!!!!


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                      • donnylong
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 2164

                        #12
                        Originally posted by WarChild
                        Unfortunately, the language of the DMCA makes it so they have to send a DMCA notice. The tube site then takes down the "user uploaded conent", and have then complied. You can't just jump right to suing someone without taking the proper steps first.

                        It's obviously a loop hole. It's also obvious that "user uploaded" sometimes, if not most often, means that the tube site themselves are doing it. You could buy a trial membership at any major sponsor, and have your outsourced worker ripping and uploading movies and it would hardly cost anything at all.

                        That's the problem. Either DMCA needs to be changed, or google needs to lose to Viacom over youtube. Until then, it's kind of tricky.
                        ok but if you have already asked them to take it down once and more gets uploaded dont you have ground to do something more?

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                        • WarChild
                          Let slip the dogs of war.
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 17263

                          #13
                          Originally posted by donnylong
                          ok but if you have already asked them to take it down once and more gets uploaded dont you have ground to do something more?
                          Well, I'm not an expert on this by any means, so take what I say with that in mind. I suggest you do your own research and read the DMCA act if you're really interested.

                          The way I understand it, what you're talking about is more or less the basis of the Viacom suit vs. Youtube (Google). Basically, they're saying that Youtube doesn't do enough, or certainly not all they can, to keep copyright material down.

                          The safe harbour provision has a bunch of steps that have to be followed. You can't be acting as an editor on the content, you have to register with the copyright office, and on and on.

                          If Viacom wins, or the DMCA is re-written, it will be a lot easier to go after tube sites.

                          Then of course there's sites that are outside of the USA, which adds a whole new layer of complexity. Good luck suing a tubesite hosted in Russia. How are you ever going to get them in to a US court? It's going to be very tough.
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                          • WarChild
                            Let slip the dogs of war.
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 17263

                            #14
                            Here's a light read on Safe Harbor

                            Title 17, United States Code, Section 512(c)(1) provides that "a service provider shall not be liable for monetary relief, or . . . for infringement of copyright by reason of the storage at the direction of a user of material that resides on a system or network controlled or operated by or for the service provider." A service provider is "a provider of online services or network access, or the operator of facilities therefor" and an "entity offering the transmission, routing, or providing of connections for digital online communications, between or among points specified by a user, of material of the user's choosing, without modification to the content of the material as sent or received." 17 U.S.C. § 512(k)(1).
                            http://www.keytlaw.com/Copyrights/dmca.htm
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                            • SteveLightspeed
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 7940

                              #15
                              I suggest baseball bats to the knees.
                              Abra-cadabra!

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                              • donnylong
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 2164

                                #16
                                Originally posted by WarChild
                                Well, I'm not an expert on this by any means, so take what I say with that in mind. I suggest you do your own research and read the DMCA act if you're really interested.

                                The way I understand it, what you're talking about is more or less the basis of the Viacom suit vs. Youtube (Google). Basically, they're saying that Youtube doesn't do enough, or certainly not all they can, to keep copyright material down.

                                The safe harbour provision has a bunch of steps that have to be followed. You can't be acting as an editor on the content, you have to register with the copyright office, and on and on.

                                If Viacom wins, or the DMCA is re-written, it will be a lot easier to go after tube sites.

                                Then of course there's sites that are outside of the USA, which adds a whole new layer of complexity. Good luck suing a tubesite hosted in Russia. How are you ever going to get them in to a US court? It's going to be very tough.
                                so what is to be done about this? are we suppose to stand here and watch our biz go done the tubes? I don't believe in the word cant.

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                                • d-null
                                  . . .
                                  • Apr 2007
                                  • 13724

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                                  I suggest baseball bats to the knees.

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                                  • L-Pink
                                    working on my tan
                                    • Mar 2005
                                    • 39151

                                    #18
                                    Good posts Donny, seriously I agree 100%.

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                                    • WarChild
                                      Let slip the dogs of war.
                                      • Jan 2003
                                      • 17263

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by donnylong
                                      so what is to be done about this? are we suppose to stand here and watch our biz go done the tubes? I don't believe in the word cant.
                                      Well, if Viacom can beat Google, there will be precedent making it easier to go after adult tubes too. Essentially people will be able to sue tube sites saying "Well they're doing the same as YouTube, which you've already established to be illegal ...".

                                      I think a lot of people in these tighter economic times are thinking that as long as Viacom wants to fight the battle and more importantly fund it, let them do it and hope they win. Of course if Google wins, and there's precedent set the other way ... then the uphill battle for copyright owners will get that much worse.

                                      It does seem like things are changing internationally towards better protections for copyright holders. It's slow though, like any change always is.

                                      More or less the DMCA act needs to be completely re-written taking in to mind today's technologies and platforms for content delivery. It's out of date and not working. For that, well I guess lobby your Congressman.
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                                      • Snake Doctor
                                        I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                        • Mar 2001
                                        • 13449

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by WarChild
                                        That's the problem. Either DMCA needs to be changed, or google needs to lose to Viacom over youtube. Until then, it's kind of tricky.
                                        That is the more likely scenario......BUT, even then, how many of these sites are U.S. based or owned by a U.S. company? Even the ones that are would likely move offshore.
                                        Even with a precedent it would still be hard to sue the offenders out of business
                                        sig too big

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                                        • L-Pink
                                          working on my tan
                                          • Mar 2005
                                          • 39151

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by WarChild
                                          Well, I'm not an expert on this by any means, so take what I say with that in mind. I suggest you do your own research and read the DMCA act if you're really interested.

                                          The way I understand it, what you're talking about is more or less the basis of the Viacom suit vs. Youtube (Google). Basically, they're saying that Youtube doesn't do enough, or certainly not all they can, to keep copyright material down.

                                          The safe harbour provision has a bunch of steps that have to be followed. You can't be acting as an editor on the content, you have to register with the copyright office, and on and on.

                                          If Viacom wins, or the DMCA is re-written, it will be a lot easier to go after tube sites.

                                          Then of course there's sites that are outside of the USA, which adds a whole new layer of complexity. Good luck suing a tubesite hosted in Russia. How are you ever going to get them in to a US court? It's going to be very tough.
                                          Originally posted by WarChild
                                          Well, if Viacom can beat Google, there will be precedent making it easier to go after adult tubes too. Essentially people will be able to sue tube sites saying "Well they're doing the same as YouTube, which you've already established to be illegal ...".

                                          I think a lot of people in these tighter economic times are thinking that as long as Viacom wants to fight the battle and more importantly fund it, let them do it and hope they win. Of course if Google wins, and there's precedent set the other way ... then the uphill battle for copyright owners will get that much worse.

                                          It does seem like things are changing internationally towards better protections for copyright holders. It's slow though, like any change always is.

                                          More or less the DMCA act needs to be completely re-written taking in to mind today's technologies and platforms for content delivery. It's out of date and not working. For that, well I guess lobby your Congressman.

                                          Good posts ..... for a surfer



                                          (couldn't resist)


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                                          • $5 submissions
                                            I help you SUCCEED
                                            • Nov 2003
                                            • 32195

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by donnylong
                                            ok but if you have already asked them to take it down once and more gets uploaded dont you have ground to do something more?
                                            No. You are then back to asking them to take it down. However, if there is a pattern that indicates that it is willful on their part or it can be proven that they encourage or they themselves upload the infringing materials, this may fall out of the 'safe harbor' provisions of the DMCA and be actionable under copyright law. Please consult with an attorney in your jurisdiction.

                                            I have a feeling this might be a lucrative practice for the right kind of lawyers. People usually shit their pants when they get a cease and desist. Not to mention a formal complaint (actual lawsuit). Just the cost of getting representation is hassle enough already.
                                            Last edited by $5 submissions; 11-22-2008, 11:42 AM.

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                                            • donnylong
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Mar 2007
                                              • 2164

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                              No. You are then back to asking them to take it down. However, if there is a pattern that indicates that it is willful on their part or it can be proven that they encourage or they themselves upload the infringing materials, this may fall out of the 'safe harbor' provisions of the DMCA and be actionable under copyright law. Please consult with an attorney in your jurisdiction.

                                              I have a feeling this might be a lucrative practice for the right kind of lawyers. People usually shit their pants when they get a cease and desist. Not to mention a formal complaint (actual lawsuit). Just the cost of getting representation is hassle enough already.
                                              well why is brazzers doing this to our industry? why is tcg not doing anything? and why is TB not doing anything? how many people on this thread promote brazzers?

                                              I know I do! Every page on my site has there banners. Http://www.donnylongproductions.com/home.html my template page for my whole site design has there banners on hundreds of pages. I think I might be changing that what do you guys think?

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                                              • crockett
                                                in a van by the river
                                                • May 2003
                                                • 76818

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by donnylong
                                                Yea but why? This is our money they are fucking with!!! why dont they do anything about it?? all it would take is one good hefty sue or penalty correct me if i am wrong? maybe a judge saying any company caught doing this cant do any biz on the net for 6 months or a year and has to pay a large fine?
                                                You're preaching to the choir man.. Who knows why nothing is done.
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                                                • WarChild
                                                  Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                  • 17263

                                                  #25
                                                  Brazzers also owns Pornhub.

                                                  Unfortunately, I think the amount of traffic you send them is probably not very significant at the end of the day. Certainly not more so than the money they make on their own huge tubes selling their own sites. They're probably making money hand over first right now.
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                                                  • crockett
                                                    in a van by the river
                                                    • May 2003
                                                    • 76818

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                                                    I suggest baseball bats to the knees.
                                                    Yea to an extent that's what needs to be done..

                                                    another option was one I suggested before.. Play cyber warfare with them and create a program that uploads crap video to their sites.
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                                                    • Grapesoda
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                      • 46238

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by donnylong

                                                      thread here said brazzers owns and the first thing i see is everyone elses porn but brazzers on it WTF?
                                                      why would brazzers host a tube site and not send the traffic to themselves? that dosen't make any sense... might be a good idea to slow down a bit before you start calling people out Donny. $.02

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                                                      • crockett
                                                        in a van by the river
                                                        • May 2003
                                                        • 76818

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                                        That is the more likely scenario......BUT, even then, how many of these sites are U.S. based or owned by a U.S. company? Even the ones that are would likely move offshore.
                                                        Even with a precedent it would still be hard to sue the offenders out of business
                                                        Yes but you can always go after the domains.
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                                                        • donnylong
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Mar 2007
                                                          • 2164

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by bm bradley
                                                          why would brazzers host a tube site and not send the traffic to themselves? that dosen't make any sense... might be a good idea to slow down a bit before you start calling people out Donny. $.02
                                                          what does that mean? the link to the videos I posted are clearly not brazzers stuff and clearly you can see no TB banners or TCG banners! I just would like someone to explain this to me thats all. correct me on how I am wrong?

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                                                          • donnylong
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Mar 2007
                                                            • 2164

                                                            #30
                                                            lets see what TB and TCG say about this??????
                                                            http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...2#post15091632

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                                                            • yys
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                              • 1922

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                                                              I suggest baseball bats to the knees.

                                                              Yeah, I'm surprised that no one has been taken for a ride in a plastic lined panel van yet.

                                                              I'm even more surprised that some of these owners living in their resident third world shit hole haven't went missing yet; life is extremely cheap in a lot of these places.

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                                                              • Grapesoda
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                • 46238

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by donnylong
                                                                what does that mean? the link to the videos I posted are clearly not brazzers stuff and clearly you can see no TB banners or TCG banners! I just would like someone to explain this to me thats all. correct me on how I am wrong?
                                                                you're stating the site belongs to brazzers because some one else posted that in a thread on GFY? that's not proof, and that's what matters. $.02

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                                                                • Grapesoda
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                  • 46238

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by yys
                                                                  Yeah, I'm surprised that no one has been taken for a ride in a plastic lined panel van yet.

                                                                  I'm even more surprised that some of these owners living in their resident third world shit hole haven't went missing yet; life is extremely cheap in a lot of these places.
                                                                  everyone talk long shit, no one ever does anything in my expereice

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                                                                  • donnylong
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Mar 2007
                                                                    • 2164

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by bm bradley
                                                                    you're stating the site belongs to brazzers because some one else posted that in a thread on GFY? that's not proof, and that's what matters. $.02
                                                                    to correct you a lot of people have said it was there site and here is a thread about it http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ight=tube1.com so if your mad at someone for accusing them be mad at the guy who posted that thread. Also I would have proff its not theirs!
                                                                    Also whoever owns this site is doing wrong and needs to be called out or like everyone is saying knee caps broken!
                                                                    Last edited by donnylong; 11-22-2008, 12:18 PM.

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                                                                    • GAMEFINEST
                                                                      Make STACK$
                                                                      • Nov 2006
                                                                      • 14478

                                                                      #35
                                                                      same shit different day
                                                                      Compound interest.

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                                                                      • donnylong
                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                        • Mar 2007
                                                                        • 2164

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by GAMEFINEST
                                                                        same shit different day
                                                                        yea and what is it going to take to stop it?

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                                                                        • donnylong
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Mar 2007
                                                                          • 2164

                                                                          #37
                                                                          here is what people are saying on the other thread!

                                                                          Quote:
                                                                          Originally Posted by »Rob Content« View Post
                                                                          Welcome to two years ago.

                                                                          These questions and fights have already been raised and dealt with.

                                                                          Most major programs have cut deals with all the tubes and have traffic deals in place. It was just too much work for them to fight it.

                                                                          and my responce
                                                                          well if i dont see them come on here after i contact them about it with a link to here then maybe your right and you have answer my question.

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                                                                          • d-null
                                                                            . . .
                                                                            • Apr 2007
                                                                            • 13724

                                                                            #38
                                                                            regardless of who owns it, those companies that put their ads all over sites like that are basically saying "fuck you" to everyone else in the industry and to all of those that are spending money and working to produce content

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                                                                            • jmcb420
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                                                                              • Oct 2006
                                                                              • 2155

                                                                              #39
                                                                              You guys remember NAPSTER?

                                                                              Record companys are still suing people for illegal downloads. This should be the same thing. Webmasters who's products have turned up on theses sites should be notified of who owes what, and just like Napster, both the Tube sites AND the surfers who downloaded or viewed should be liable for monitary damages to the owners of said stolen material.

                                                                              Or

                                                                              We could just find a tube site owner, kill them, and write "QUIT STEALING FUCKING PORN" in their blood on the walls. Fuck tube sites.
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                                                                              • d-null
                                                                                . . .
                                                                                • Apr 2007
                                                                                • 13724

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by jmcb420
                                                                                You guys remember NAPSTER?

                                                                                Record companys are still suing people for illegal downloads. This should be the same thing. Webmasters who's products have turned up on theses sites should be notified of who owes what, and just like Napster, both the Tube sites AND the surfers who downloaded or viewed should be liable for monitary damages to the owners of said stolen material.

                                                                                ... Fuck tube sites.
                                                                                agree with you, just doing a dmca only gets that specific material removed, but does zero to solve the problem..... if the content owners got more aggressive and sued and subpoenad ip information and got some of the people who are uploading (and therefore not at all protected by dmca) then that would send some shock into the system

                                                                                it is pretty lazy to just stop at a simple dmca takedown request, isn't it?

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                                                                                • Agent 488
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                                                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                                                  • 22511

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  braz owns pornhub and keez.

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                                                                                  • jmcb420
                                                                                    So Fucking Drunk
                                                                                    • Oct 2006
                                                                                    • 2155

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by d-null
                                                                                    agree with you, just doing a dmca only gets that specific material removed, but does zero to solve the problem..... if the content owners got more aggressive and sued and subpoenad ip information and got some of the people who are uploading (and therefore not at all protected by dmca) then that would send some shock into the system

                                                                                    it is pretty lazy to just stop at a simple dmca takedown request, isn't it?
                                                                                    Yup. Webmasters need to be way more proactive if they want to stop the tube sites.

                                                                                    Although, if you woke up one night and found that tube site owner in your house stealing your shit, you'd shoot his ass. DOUBLE STANDARD. Theft is theft.

                                                                                    I've heard of tubesite people showing up at conventions.....hint hint.
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                                                                                    • Grapesoda
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                      • 46238

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by donnylong
                                                                                      to correct you a lot of people have said it was there site and here is a thread about it http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ight=tube1.com so if your mad at someone for accusing them be mad at the guy who posted that thread. Also I would have proff its not theirs!
                                                                                      Also whoever owns this site is doing wrong and needs to be called out or like everyone is saying knee caps broken!
                                                                                      Donny I don't have the anger issues you have, I'm not mad about anything. I don't accept gfy post as facts, and maybe you shouldn't either? just saying is all $.02
                                                                                      Last edited by Grapesoda; 11-22-2008, 01:17 PM.

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                                                                                      • mizmiz
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • May 2002
                                                                                        • 1168

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by bm bradley
                                                                                        why would brazzers host a tube site and not send the traffic to themselves? that dosen't make any sense... might be a good idea to slow down a bit before you start calling people out Donny. $.02
                                                                                        They did send traffic to them, they stopped maybe it didnt convert or maybe they just want to hide

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                                                                                        • mizmiz
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                                          • 1168

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by jmcb420
                                                                                          Yup. Webmasters need to be way more proactive if they

                                                                                          I've heard of tubesite people showing up at conventions.....hint hint.
                                                                                          Im calling 911 on you

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                                                                                          • HomerSimpson
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                                                                                            • Sep 2005
                                                                                            • 13826

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by stever
                                                                                            internet 2.0
                                                                                            everyone stealing from everyone
                                                                                            yeah, sad but true...
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                                                                                            • Agent 488
                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                              • Feb 2006
                                                                                              • 22511

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by bm bradley
                                                                                              why would brazzers host a tube site and not send the traffic to themselves? that dosen't make any sense... might be a good idea to slow down a bit before you start calling people out Donny. $.02
                                                                                              the same reason there are upsells in member areas and cross-sells?

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                                                                                              • jmcb420
                                                                                                So Fucking Drunk
                                                                                                • Oct 2006
                                                                                                • 2155

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by mizmiz
                                                                                                Im calling 911 on you
                                                                                                oh............
                                                                                                I'm funner than AIDS, and easier to explain to your parents.

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                                                                                                • Aussie Rebel
                                                                                                  Blow Me U Geeks
                                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                                  • 5108

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by donnylong
                                                                                                  yea and what is it going to take to stop it?
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                                                                                                  • MrDeiz
                                                                                                    • May 2008
                                                                                                    • 9802

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    don't worry
                                                                                                    they will burn in hell
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