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MetaMan 11-19-2008 11:35 AM

What blu-ray player do you have?
 
What are some of the better ones?

is their a big difference at all?

what do you recommend?

alexchechs 11-19-2008 11:37 AM

I have a PS3, half the reason I got one,a nd it works fine. The remote is definitly a worthwhile purchase...

candyflip 11-19-2008 11:39 AM

The PS3 is still the best choice if you ask me.

BradM 11-19-2008 11:40 AM

PS3. I got it cause it was cheaper than any blueray player at the time... and then I got the game station with it. So it completely made sense to do that.

MetaMan 11-19-2008 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 15077565)
The PS3 is still the best choice if you ask me.

can you explain why exactly?

does it offer Dolby TrueHD?

i kinda dont get why people wouldnt just buy a PS3 and not a blu-ray player. i wonder if the stand alone blu ray players have extras?

Supz 11-19-2008 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 15077576)
can you explain why exactly?

does it offer Dolby TrueHD?

i kinda dont get why people wouldnt just buy a PS3 and not a blu-ray player. i wonder if the stand alone blu ray players have extras?

from what i hear they are just as good as any blu-ray player, plus you get the game consol, and they are cheaper then most blue-ray players, or were

MetaMan 11-19-2008 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by supzdotcom (Post 15077585)
from what i hear they are just as good as any blu-ray player, plus you get the game consol, and they are cheaper then most blue-ray players, or were

ok cool, i dont think PS3 has dolby truhd when i look it up.

i want the full 9, i dont play alot of video games so to me the extra is not a big issue. although playing PS3 on my projector may get me addicted.

Jack Sparrow 11-19-2008 11:46 AM

Did someone say PS3 already?

candyflip 11-19-2008 11:54 AM

I know the PS3 has the upgradeable firmware, which is something most of the original models didn't have. I'm not sure if the newer ones are updateable or if they just come with the upgraded firmware.

Seems TrueHD is possible, but it takes a little bit or work:

http://blog.webjak.net/2008/03/01/do...-hd-ma-on-ps3/

Quote:

Anyway, I digress. Long story short PS3 does have TrueHD and other HD audio format abilities, its just that it cannot output them in a raw format (bitstream). So what you have to do is go into the Bluray settings in the PS3 settings menu, and select PCM. PCM is a base digital format which is lossless and all the other good stuff you simply must have these days if you are ever to have sex again (or for you audiophiles out there, for the first time). The PS3 internally transcodes the TrueHD etc to PCM. Once this setting is enabled, the OSD on the TV says TrueHD!! Yaay.

pornguy 11-19-2008 11:55 AM

IM holding off for a while on that. They are still over 300$ here and Blockbuster has like 12 movies for rent.
So...

jakethedog 11-19-2008 11:57 AM

PS3 for me as well .. seems to work very well .. and heck you can even play games .. lol imagine that

MetaMan 11-19-2008 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 15077628)
I know the PS3 has the upgradeable firmware, which is something most of the original models didn't have. I'm not sure if the newer ones are updateable or if they just come with the upgraded firmware.

Seems TrueHD is possible, but it takes a little bit or work:

http://blog.webjak.net/2008/03/01/do...-hd-ma-on-ps3/

god some of this shit is confusing.

i spent 2 days trying to figure out how to make VGA inputs compatible with the new HDMI encryption.

candyflip 11-19-2008 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 15077656)
god some of this shit is confusing.

i spent 2 days trying to figure out how to make VGA inputs compatible with the new HDMI encryption.

Yeah...that's basically what the guy who wrote that blog post had to say. Regardless, it's possible...via HDMI cable and some changes to a few settings.

MetaMan 11-19-2008 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 15077666)
Yeah...that's basically what the guy who wrote that blog post had to say. Regardless, it's possible...via HDMI cable and some changes to a few settings.

ok cool i will def check it out thanks, no matter what i am going to have to do some hard research it's just good to have peoples advice to start ill make a post with what i choose may not be for a little bit i really want to make sure i like what i choose.

Kudles 11-19-2008 01:14 PM

Don't have one yet

wargames 11-19-2008 01:16 PM

ps3 :thumbsup

aico 11-19-2008 01:17 PM

Sony BX1

Also upscales my DVDs to 1080p rather than 1080i.

MetaMan 11-19-2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 15078023)
Sony BX1

Also upscales my DVDs to 1080p rather than 1080i.

can you explain the upscale part?

i dont get how it can make a DVD 1080?

or are you talking about blue ray disks itself?

abadfish 11-19-2008 01:22 PM

I have read two magazine articles this month that say the PS3 is the best blu-ray player you can buy.

aico 11-19-2008 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 15078041)
can you explain the upscale part?

i dont get how it can make a DVD 1080?

or are you talking about blue ray disks itself?

Scaling turns a DVD (not blueray disc, those are already hi-def) from standard definition to high definition format, making it play better on a hi-def tv. It's usually nothing noticeable, just helps the movie meet the native format of your HD tv.

MetaMan 11-19-2008 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 15078062)
Scaling turns a DVD (not blueray disc, those are already hi-def) from standard definition to high definition format, making it play better on a hi-def tv. It's usually nothing noticeable, just helps the movie meet the native format of your HD tv.

ok thanks for the explanation.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_133SCBT...0.html?tp=6419


i am thinking of going with this puppy then adding the extra 2 speakers to go to 7.1.

Scott McD 11-19-2008 01:31 PM

PS3 all the way !!!!! :pimp

PSSuperstars 11-19-2008 01:42 PM

In the bedroom we have a samsung.. and it's on a plasma, and totally worth it.. and fine :) When the samsung was on the DLP out in the living room, honestly it wasn't as crisp as it should have been...

And then in the living room, we now have the real sony blue ray...

You can get them online right now.. on some places for like $299... with a $100 giftcard.. I think hubby said MacMall had some right now for that special.

justinsain 11-19-2008 01:51 PM

I'd be willing to bet that the reason there is so many PS3 owners here is
because they bought early.

The PS3 was certainly the best bargain in the beginning as it was cheaper
than most stand alone players AND you got the gaming.

Today you can get a blu-ray player for under $200 or half the cost of the PS3
and many of the high end players that perform as good or better than the PS3
are also going for less than the PS3. So now you are actually paying more
for the gaming aspect of the PS3 when choosing it as a blu-ray player.

The one I'm looking at is Panasonic BD35k and the BD55K is great as well
depending on what receiver you have to hook it up to.

SBJ 11-19-2008 02:31 PM

I love my PS3 :thumbsup

FightThisPatent 11-19-2008 02:45 PM

i picked up the Panasonic Blu-Ray for $299 or less.

has SD card slot so you can view your digital camera pics on it.

picture quality of blu-ray is amazing. just bought wall-e and will be watching it this evening.

you could go with an LG or Samsung that allows for netflix streaming, but i read the fine print that netflix streaming was "near dvd" quality if you had a fast connection...and after seeing blu-ray (and HD), not going back to DVD, so definitely not needing to stream less than DVD quality, so wasn't a requirement.

my comcast has a decent amount of HD free movies.

Netflix has over 1,000 blu-ray titles..costs you $1/month extra..but definitely worth it

I was thinking PS3..but all the good games are on Xbox 360, so didn't seem worth the extra expense.

Fight the plug!

detoxed 11-19-2008 02:47 PM

i just have a laptop for it

eroticsexxx 11-19-2008 09:21 PM

Another PS3 owner here.

Mr Pheer 11-19-2008 10:16 PM

I have a PS3 on my 65" projection tv in my living room, and a samsung bluray on my 50" plasma in my bedroom.

MetaMan 11-19-2008 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 15080600)
I have a PS3 on my 65" projection tv in my living room, and a samsung bluray on my 50" plasma in my bedroom.

have you heard TRUHD sound by anychance?

im thinking of just buying it capable for now just for future, or i may hold off entirely decisions decisions!

i want HD badly because on my projector it will make a HUGE difference on a screen the size. i heard HD really only has a point over 50"+

bronco67 11-19-2008 11:18 PM

It's been said already, but the PS3 is one of the best BluRay players you'll get.

mikesouth 11-19-2008 11:37 PM

ps3 hands down because it plays H.264, DIVX and a host of other formats and will likely add more in the future.

Mr Pheer 11-20-2008 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 15080693)
have you heard TRUHD sound by anychance?

im thinking of just buying it capable for now just for future, or i may hold off entirely decisions decisions!

i want HD badly because on my projector it will make a HUGE difference on a screen the size. i heard HD really only has a point over 50"+

dont hold off just for that

bluray players are cheap now, spend $250 now on one if you think you'll want to upgrade later, you can always move it to another room or pass it along to a friend or family member if you do upgrade

MetaMan 11-20-2008 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 15080810)
dont hold off just for that

bluray players are cheap now, spend $250 now on one if you think you'll want to upgrade later, you can always move it to another room or pass it along to a friend or family member if you do upgrade

i have been researching like a fucking madman and so far i like:

Onkyo HT-S6100

http://www.us.onkyo.com/model.cfm?m=...ss=Systems&p=i

im going to go with this and then get a separate blu-ray player then plug the blu ray into my receiver then i dont have to worry about full 7.1 because it is capable.

interesting also my projector is from 2007 but does not have HDMi but has VGA, so to beat to codec i have to purchase HD fury:

http://www.hdfury.com/

which basically tricks the reciever and player that it is HDMI compatable, my projector only goes up to 1080i but i read the difference between 1080p and 1080i is so small that your eyes cant tell. no idea if this is true or not i guess i will have to find out for myself.

Mr Pheer 11-20-2008 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 15080825)
i have been researching like a fucking madman and so far i like:

Onkyo HT-S6100

http://www.us.onkyo.com/model.cfm?m=...ss=Systems&p=i

im going to go with this and then get a separate blu-ray player then plug the blu ray into my receiver then i dont have to worry about full 7.1 because it is capable.

interesting also my projector is from 2007 but does not have HDMi but has VGA, so to beat to codec i have to purchase HD fury:

http://www.hdfury.com/

which basically tricks the reciever and player that it is HDMI compatable, my projector only goes up to 1080i but i read the difference between 1080p and 1080i is so small that your eyes cant tell. no idea if this is true or not i guess i will have to find out for myself.

component video does 1080i

vga to component video convertor = cheap

any bluray will have optical audio output for your surround sound in whatever format you want to use

MetaMan 11-20-2008 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 15080833)
component video does 1080i

vga to component video convertor = cheap

any bluray will have optical audio output for your surround sound in whatever format you want to use

if you do not have HDMI for blu ray the palyer will chop the output in half so 1080 becomes 540, or will sometimes display a blank screen even.

that is why i need HD fury, you may have just said that im not to sure hehe.

and i def want to go with blu ray. all HDTV channels are going digital if they already havent also.

Mr Pheer 11-20-2008 12:51 AM

What I'm saying is, you can do what you want with component video output as well, but you still need a convertor to go to your projector. Your projector should have came with a vga/component video adapter.

The component video outputs on a bluray player, outputs a 1080i signal.
The HDMI output, outputs a 1080p signal. If you cant use 1080p anyway, whats the point in using the 1080p output when you only need 1080i to begin with.

The red/green/blue cables on bluray = 1080i maximum.

MetaMan 11-20-2008 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 15080850)
What I'm saying is, you can do what you want with component video output as well, but you still need a convertor to go to your projector. Your projector should have came with a vga/component video adapter.

The component video outputs on a bluray player, outputs a 1080i signal.
The HDMI output, outputs a 1080p signal. If you cant use 1080p anyway, whats the point in using the 1080p output when you only need 1080i to begin with.

The red/green/blue cables on bluray = 1080i maximum.

i re read it a few times and what i think you are saying is go blueray<---component<adapter>VGA-->projector.
and not use hdfury

(correct me if i am wrong i didnt 100% follow)

the thing with HDTV and BLU-RAY is it is HDCP encryption and evrerything down the line has to be HDMI capable or it cuts it in half.

so that means blu ray>reciever>projector, and that is where the HD fury comes in. it is pretening to be HDMI all the way down the line.

blueray<---HMDI<HDFURY>VGA<pretends to be an HDMI signal)-->projector.

Mr Pheer 11-20-2008 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 15080870)
the thing with HDTV and BLU-RAY is it is HDCP encryption and evrerything down the line has to be HDMI capable or it cuts it in half.

yeah thats exactly how HDCP works, when using the digital output of a bluray player.

Component output is analog, not digital. That is why it is 1080i maximum.

My projection tv will not do 1080p, doesnt have HDMI input. I use component video output to it, and watch my bluray movies in 1080i.

MetaMan 11-20-2008 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 15080888)
yeah thats exactly how HDCP works, when using the digital output of a bluray player.

Component output is analog, not digital. That is why it is 1080i maximum.

My projection tv will not do 1080p, doesnt have HDMI input. I use component video output to it, and watch my bluray movies in 1080i.

so are you saying i do not need HDFURY and i only need the component>VGA adapter for 1080i?

Mr Pheer 11-20-2008 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 15080901)
so are you saying i do not need HDFURY and i only need the component>VGA adapter for 1080i?

yes, thats what I'm saying.

HDCP encryption is for a digital (HDMI) output. Component video output is analog.

flashfire 11-20-2008 01:33 AM

PS3 you can also stream movies from your computer....xvids, bluray rips ect.

MetaMan 11-20-2008 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 15080910)
yes, thats what I'm saying.

HDCP encryption is for a digital (HDMI) output. Component video output is analog.

you my friend my have just saved me cash thank you very much!

i knew it was digital signal buti was not aware blu ray is capable of outputting in analog.

i think though for HDTV i will need HDFURY because HDTV it is a digital signal?

MetaMan 11-20-2008 01:38 AM

and to note now that i think about this on TrueHD for sound you need HDMI as far as i know so HDFURY would be needed for the movies as is for what i am looking for as a fully equiped system.

version5 11-20-2008 01:46 AM

PS3 for me, i like games and i wanted blu-ray, just made sense.


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