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RedShoe 11-12-2008 06:00 PM

Texas principal spanking female students. Is that wrong? A REAL MORAL DEBATE on GFY
 
Not sure if I already posted this when I saw it, but I was just thinking about this earlier today.

There is a TV show called Principals Office or some shit on TruTV. The show follows principals of different schools all over the nation to show us discipline problems and what dumb shit kids do in High School.

Well, in Texas the policy is if you get into enough trouble to warrant saturday detention you have a choice. You can take three smacks with a paddle, or do a day of saturday detention.

Some of the kids choose the paddle.

Now then, the principal is a big guy. He's from Texas, and looks every bit of 300+lbs. The girl on the show that chose the paddle looked like an average high school girl, she looked maybe 16 -17 now then... is it MORAL for a 55 year old man to be spanking a 16 yr old girl on gov't property? I know it's meant as corporal punishment, but doesn't that seem like if they were off school grounds and not related as they clearly are not, wouldn't that be illegal seeing as how she's under age?

Some of the girls at 17 are very well developed. At some point having a 17yr old girl with a fully formed body bent over in your closed office while you're spanking her HAS to conjure sexual feelings. I'm not saying he doesn't have self control. I'm saying that the situation is very inappropriate.

Even if the girl were 18 and legally an adult, and say she got held back a year in school, and she ended up in the office, bent over and he's standing over her paddling her. I still don't think that's right even though she's 18.


What are your thoughts?

aniloscash 11-12-2008 06:02 PM

I wish they would just make texas its own country so we could be done with them already.

scuba steve 11-12-2008 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aniloscash (Post 15045548)
I wish they would just make texas its own country so we could be done with them already.

we tried, it didn't work.

Tempest 11-12-2008 06:10 PM

Kids need their ass beaten more these days to teach them some respect.

As long as there's a woman in the room when it happens I don't see a problem with it as far as I'm concerned. The girls DID pick the paddle after all.

RedShoe 11-12-2008 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 15045576)
Kids need their ass beaten more these days to teach them some respect.

As long as there's a woman in the room when it happens I don't see a problem with it as far as I'm concerned. The girls DID pick the paddle after all.

Watch this.. This is the show I saw.


It doesn't look like there is anyone else in the room with them. Just the principal and the student. And still does having an audience really make a difference?

Tempest 11-12-2008 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedShoe (Post 15045592)
And still does having an audience really make a difference?

A difference from what.. Just what is your problem with it? That the prinicipal might get a hard on? Give me a break.. You don't want the male staff to not get a hard on from all the nubile girls around then they should outlaw cheerleaders, gymnastics, swimming and make the girls wear nothing but baggy clothes..

JaneB 11-12-2008 06:26 PM

I have watched that show a few times. He does let the students pick the option of punishment they want. If they choose the paddle he said vey clearly that he needs to call and talk to their parents. So if they want to get paddled and their parents approve it, then I do not see the problem.

JaneB 11-12-2008 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedShoe (Post 15045592)
Watch this.. This is the show I saw.


It doesn't look like there is anyone else in the room with them. Just the principal and the student. And still does having an audience really make a difference?


I have seen those episodes and you can't tell if there is another person in the room or not. They shut the door and then you hear the paddle. It is over with pretty quick and then the kid comes walking out. There is also a line of students outside the door waiting to get paddled next. Hell more kids need to get their ass paddled. A lot of kids have no respect and are punks. You try being a principal and having to put up with them 5 days a week. It is usally the same kids they show getting in trouble on that show.

Kudles 11-12-2008 06:34 PM

Leave it to texans

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 11-12-2008 06:38 PM

I's spank her in the forehead with my cock... How's that for moral?

BlackCrayon 11-12-2008 06:38 PM

I bet he tries to get the chicks to do it bare assed.

TheDoc 11-12-2008 07:01 PM

I grew up in Texas, licks were pretty much standard for anyone in athletics, fights if it wasn't a repeat issue, and to burn detention days.

It doesn't work, the few that take the licks don't care. Anyone that gets in repeat trouble already doesn't give a shit. So licks are an easy out.

The Texas School ie: Prison System is at the bottom of the list in the Country for many reasons.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 11-12-2008 07:06 PM

i say bring in some real discipline!

http://www.markydsade.com/wp-content...ed_500x751.jpg

Peaches 11-12-2008 07:07 PM

I think you've been in the business too long ;)

Not everyone sees spanking as sexual. Just like they don't see a school teacher/student interaction as sexual, a baby sitter/father as sexual, a son/best friend's mother as sexual, a doctor/patient as sexual, etc.

If it becomes sexual you damn well know the kid is going to complain, get the guy fired and sue the school system for millions. I DO think they should have someone in the room - more so the kid doesn't make crap up.

RedShoe 11-12-2008 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 15045812)
I think you've been in the business too long ;)

Not everyone sees spanking as sexual. Just like they don't see a school teacher/student interaction as sexual, a baby sitter/father as sexual, a son/best friend's mother as sexual, a doctor/patient as sexual, etc.

If it becomes sexual you damn well know the kid is going to complain, get the guy fired and sue the school system for millions. I DO think they should have someone in the room - more so the kid doesn't make crap up.

You left out the catholic priest/child relationship

I've been in the business too long???

Do catholic priests that molest little kids work in the adult industry? No. But they still do. To think that you have to be in adult to see spanking as a sexual fetish for some people, is being obtuse.

Also, the kid might not complain because the guy seems to have self control. Who's to say that guy doesn't go home and beat off to the idea that he gets to spank underage girls at work?

MovieMaster 11-12-2008 08:39 PM

Blame the mormons... They just make all offenders their wife.

Chris 11-12-2008 08:46 PM

why does it matter if it was off school?

if the girl got in trouble by an authority figure that has gotten permission to use a paddle on her how would that be illegal?

Texas you can use a paddle on a kid
and to get the paddle used on you at school your parents SIGN A PERMISSION SLIP.

My sister is still in high school and i remember her bringing it home at the start of the school year.


I remember many times getting my ass whooped at school with a paddle

it was never a choice of saturday school or whoopin tho lol

Spunky 11-12-2008 08:53 PM

I used to get the strap on the hands.I remember it to this day .almost 40 years ago.discipline is what's lacking in the youth today

RedShoe 11-12-2008 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 15046152)
why does it matter if it was off school?

if the girl got in trouble by an authority figure that has gotten permission to use a paddle on her how would that be illegal?

Texas you can use a paddle on a kid
and to get the paddle used on you at school your parents SIGN A PERMISSION SLIP.

My sister is still in high school and i remember her bringing it home at the start of the school year.


I remember many times getting my ass whooped at school with a paddle

it was never a choice of saturday school or whoopin tho lol


I never had corporal punishment. I fucked up in school, but mine was so bad they just kicked me out of the entire school system.

I wasn't aware of the permission slip stuff. Why a 17 year old would even bring back a permission slip to school is beyond me.

Tempest 11-12-2008 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedShoe (Post 15046037)
Who's to say that guy doesn't go home and beat off to the idea that he gets to spank underage girls at work?

Or the teachers that go home and beat it to the cheerleaders or girls in phys ed? And apprently the female teachers that go home and masturbate to fantasies of the young jocks.. maybe we should all take a pill so we don't have any more sexual urges...

the Shemp 11-12-2008 08:59 PM

teachers should not be hitting students under any circumstances ...

Chris 11-12-2008 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedShoe (Post 15046193)
I never had corporal punishment. I fucked up in school, but mine was so bad they just kicked me out of the entire school system.

I wasn't aware of the permission slip stuff. Why a 17 year old would even bring back a permission slip to school is beyond me.

some schools here do it all online
the parents havea login to the school website where they get permission slips n shit that they can agree too and stuff but in my city they send it home with the kid and the parents mail it back into the school so the kid cant change it

and it has to be turned in

Amarie 11-12-2008 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 15045812)
I DO think they should have someone in the room - more so the kid doesn't make crap up.

I agree for their own protection. I dont really think its a problem if the students are choosing to be paddled themselves. Hell I grew up getting paddled whenever I did something stupid.

JamesK 11-12-2008 09:06 PM

Hell yeah, punk ass kids need a good beating now and then. Look at the youth nowadays, fucking out of control. And that's coming from a 20 year old.

Chris 11-12-2008 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 15046197)
teachers should not be hitting students under any circumstances ...

its not the "teacher" it is the principal or vice doing it..but in a way they are still teachers but parents are giving them permission to do it.

Chris 11-12-2008 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 15045812)
I DO think they should have someone in the room - more so the kid doesn't make crap up.

The offices are always video tapped

the Shemp 11-12-2008 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 15046220)
its not the "teacher" it is the principal or vice doing it..but in a way they are still teachers but parents are giving them permission to do it.

do they still flog prisoners down there?

Cyandin 11-12-2008 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aniloscash (Post 15045548)
I wish they would just make texas its own country so we could be done with them already.

Already happened.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Texas

Also, Texas seceded from the United States on February 1, 1861, and joined the Confederate States of America on March 2, 1861. (Civil War)


Quote:

Originally Posted by scuba steve (Post 15045570)
we tried, it didn't work.

I doubt you really have any idea what you're talking about, but instead just want to sound like you know something about something.

Also, in this day and age, I think it would be far more devastating to the US if Texas were to secede, and Texas would flourish. I've only lived here a few years, so this is not lifetime Texan talk either - I'm from Cali.

1. Oil (2nd most of any US state, next to Alaska)
2. NASA (mission control)
3. Port of Houston (most foreign tonnage of any US port)
4. Very well armed populace
5. A massively diverse and strong economy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas#Economy)

etc, etc, etc.

Also, note that in Article 1, Section 1 of the Texas Constitution "
FREEDOM AND SOVEREIGNTY OF STATE. Texas is a free and independent State, subject only to the Constitution of the United States, and the maintenance of our free institutions and the perpetuity of the Union depend upon the preservation of the right of local self-government, unimpaired to all the States.
"

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 15045792)
I grew up in Texas, licks were pretty much standard for anyone in athletics, fights if it wasn't a repeat issue, and to burn detention days.

It doesn't work, the few that take the licks don't care. Anyone that gets in repeat trouble already doesn't give a shit. So licks are an easy out.

The Texas School ie: Prison System is at the bottom of the list in the Country for many reasons.

Per: http://www.city-data.com/forum/flori...-rankings.html

which cites psk12.com, Texas is r32/50. Not impressive, but around the middle of the pack.

TheDoc 11-12-2008 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyandin (Post 15046340)
Per: http://www.city-data.com/forum/flori...-rankings.html

which cites psk12.com, Texas is r32/50. Not impressive, but around the middle of the pack.

Those numbers are from 20 years of drilling in standardized testing memorization rather than actually learning. It's still bottom of the list for good schools. And a lot more than rankings make a school system bad. The Schools in Texas straight up do not match up to the Schools in the North East, in every way other than maybe sports, which Texas Schools are great at!

NaughtyRob 11-12-2008 11:00 PM

Fuck that. I got spanked with a paddle in 4th grade that shit sucks!

RedShoe 11-12-2008 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 15046197)
teachers should not be hitting students under any circumstances ...

Once again, I agree with the man himself.

Iron Fist 11-12-2008 11:16 PM

Only if they were wearing short miniskirts with thongs, then they should get spankings. Yes.

James124 11-12-2008 11:31 PM

At one point some parent is gonna kick that principals ass. That's what you teach people when you beat them, that violence is an OK way to respond to transgression.

xmas13 11-12-2008 11:37 PM

Right Wing Conspiracy, Beware!

simpson 11-12-2008 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedShoe (Post 15045544)
Not sure if I already posted this when I saw it, but I was just thinking about this earlier today.

There is a TV show called Principals Office or some shit on TruTV. The show follows principals of different schools all over the nation to show us discipline problems and what dumb shit kids do in High School.

Well, in Texas the policy is if you get into enough trouble to warrant saturday detention you have a choice. You can take three smacks with a paddle, or do a day of saturday detention.

Some of the kids choose the paddle.

Now then, the principal is a big guy. He's from Texas, and looks every bit of 300+lbs. The girl on the show that chose the paddle looked like an average high school girl, she looked maybe 16 -17 now then... is it MORAL for a 55 year old man to be spanking a 16 yr old girl on gov't property? I know it's meant as corporal punishment, but doesn't that seem like if they were off school grounds and not related as they clearly are not, wouldn't that be illegal seeing as how she's under age?

Some of the girls at 17 are very well developed. At some point having a 17yr old girl with a fully formed body bent over in your closed office while you're spanking her HAS to conjure sexual feelings. I'm not saying he doesn't have self control. I'm saying that the situation is very inappropriate.

Even if the girl were 18 and legally an adult, and say she got held back a year in school, and she ended up in the office, bent over and he's standing over her paddling her. I still don't think that's right even though she's 18.


What are your thoughts?

haha.. this aint like your porn business man...

i think you're overthinking things out.... but if that's the case..

well lucky sir.. but ofcourse, you gotta pick the right flowers.. just in case..right? lolz..

or... it's your favorite fantasy? that's why your digging this.. haha..

just kidding..:winkwink:

simpson 11-12-2008 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GetNaughty (Post 15046527)
Fuck that. I got spanked with a paddle in 4th grade that shit sucks!

so why did you get spanked for?..

i know spanking does sucks.. but when you think about it sometimes.. it's for your own good.. in my POV..

i think some teachers do this shitty things to students.. cause they see something wrong.. and that should be straightened up..

this is i think, a way to embed fear to what is wrong..

you're lucky you got spanked.. cause you learn...

kane 11-12-2008 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyandin (Post 15046340)
Already happened.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Texas

Also, Texas seceded from the United States on February 1, 1861, and joined the Confederate States of America on March 2, 1861. (Civil War)




I doubt you really have any idea what you're talking about, but instead just want to sound like you know something about something.

Also, in this day and age, I think it would be far more devastating to the US if Texas were to secede, and Texas would flourish. I've only lived here a few years, so this is not lifetime Texan talk either - I'm from Cali.

1. Oil (2nd most of any US state, next to Alaska)
2. NASA (mission control)
3. Port of Houston (most foreign tonnage of any US port)
4. Very well armed populace
5. A massively diverse and strong economy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas#Economy)

etc, etc, etc.

1. Yep, you do have oil you could sell and I think there is also natural gas right off the coast. This will help you.
2. NASA. This would go away. NASA is funded by the US Government. When you secede from the union they will pull NASA out of there. They aren't going to give all the NASA billions to you, they will just move it elsewhere.
3. Port. Again, it is big, but again, the US would just switch to other ports. Why pay you to import and export a bunch of freight when we can do it for free.
4. Armed populace. Okay. Nobody is going to invade you and if they do, Joe Bob and his shotgun can't shoot a fighter plane.
5. Massively diverse and strong economy. Again, how much of that is based on help/involvement from the US. If you pull away from the union will the US and its might purchasing power looking happily on you? Probably not. It will be a lot harder for that economy to thrive when you are on your own.

I love when people think their state could just pull away and all would be great. It really isn't that simple.

kane 11-12-2008 11:57 PM

To me the problem is that the kids get to choose. You do the crime, you do the time. There should be no choice. A lot of kids would rather get paddled a couple of times than give up a Saturday in detention. In a few minutes the pain is gone and all is back to normal.

There should be no choice. There should be a set punishment and if you choose to do something that gets you in trouble, you have to serve out that punishment.

Enemator 11-13-2008 12:48 AM

Isn't this the image that a lot of webmasters are selling when they dress up a 34 yo as a 16 yo who gets spanked by a principal/daddy figure?

Also, I wonder. I bet you some of these girls choose the paddle because they frekking like it. Agreed, that doesn't make it right. My question is: is corporal punishment still allowed?

Juicy D. Links 11-13-2008 02:02 AM

If that's wrong, I don't want to be right :helpme

kahell 11-13-2008 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 15045650)
I have watched that show a few times. He does let the students pick the option of punishment they want. If they choose the paddle he said vey clearly that he needs to call and talk to their parents. So if they want to get paddled and their parents approve it, then I do not see the problem.

why don't let their own parent do the paddling or corporal punishment in front of the principal.:thumbsup

Chit Chat 11-13-2008 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 15046580)
Only if they were wearing short miniskirts with thongs, then they should get spankings. Yes.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Jensen 11-13-2008 04:37 AM

hitting a child is really legal? and by the prinicipal with permission slip.. what the hell, why guys really think that's perfectly ok? I'm with Shemp...

DWB 11-13-2008 05:19 AM

Nobody will spank my child. I would beat him or her to a bloody fucking mess if any teacher or principle touched my child.

With that said... Sat school, detention and summer school is OK with me.

Antonio 11-13-2008 05:27 AM

that's easy: you spank my daughter I stick a baseball bat up your ass

Paul Markham 11-13-2008 05:42 AM

I used to get caned and get detention. No choice and no permission from my parents. If my Father had found out he would whoop me as well.

Never did me any harm!!!!

campimp 11-13-2008 06:01 AM

more kids could use a good spanking these days.... if its their option, then so be it

pornguy 11-13-2008 06:16 AM

I honestly believe that a spanking leaves a mental mark to make sure they are LESS likely to do the same thing again. Man they suspended me from school, it was a day off. They gave me in school suspension it was a day or reading. The Saturday suspension was legally challenged in lost by the school in Florida when I was younger.

Fletch XXX 11-13-2008 06:18 AM

when your child is in public school they are property of the state.

they can be taken from school and questioned by cops or feds without you being informed.

public school is some nazi shit when you look at it

EscortBiz 11-13-2008 06:20 AM

a) I think by law a female has to spank a female or be there you can check on that

b) its a short term solution and making kids do anything out of fear is a bad thing because the second the fear goes away they rebel real bad


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