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Holly Lez! 11-03-2008 02:51 PM

Is anyone in our biz voting yes on ballot question 8?
 
If you are... Can I ask why?

Holly Lez! 11-03-2008 02:55 PM

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...92FC7918563%7D

VS_Eddie 11-03-2008 02:55 PM

Vote no on 8 - equality for all!!!

d-null 11-03-2008 02:58 PM

I drove by a house yesterday, and they must have had a dozen 'vote yes on 8' signs up, and one little Mccain sign.... it had me thinking, what kind of person makes opposing gay marriage their most important cause that they plaster their whole yard with signs like that

they must be really really intolerant to the core to worry so much about what other people that want to marry themselves do compared to the reality of the real problems in the world

Holly Lez! 11-03-2008 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 14998135)
I drove by a house yesterday, and they must have had a dozen 'vote yes on 8' signs up, and one little Mccain sign.... it had me thinking, what kind of person makes opposing gay marriage their most important cause that they plaster their whole yard with signs like that

they must be really really intolerant to the core to worry so much about what other people that want to marry themselves do compared to the reality of the real problems in the world

LOL so funny. I drive into Chatsworth from West Hollywood and am shocked by the # of yes on 8 signs in Chatsworth the porn capital...

Imortyl Pussycat 11-03-2008 03:00 PM

no way anyone is voting yes on 8 in this biz, i can't imagine that. kisses Holly

BlackCrayon 11-03-2008 03:01 PM

Its just another way to try and get bible thumping conservatives out to vote for mccain and take away peoples rights at the same time.

Holly Lez! 11-03-2008 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat (Post 14998152)
no way anyone is voting yes on 8 in this biz, i can't imagine that. kisses Holly

Kisses to you hotstuff! :winkwink: I miss you!

Holly Lez! 11-03-2008 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 14998163)
Its just another way to try and get bible thumping conservatives out to vote for mccain and take away peoples rights at the same time.

So true! :thumbsup

Mr Pheer 11-03-2008 03:44 PM

You'd have to be a pretty closed-minded, selfish individual to vote yes.

I cant vote on it because I'm a Nevada resident, but I asked my girlfriend to vote no and she said she'd be happy to.

uno 11-03-2008 03:45 PM

Gays deserve the same exact right to be as completely miserable as regular married couples.

After Shock Media 11-03-2008 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat (Post 14998152)
no way anyone is voting yes on 8 in this biz, i can't imagine that. kisses Holly

You mean like voting for the Republican ticket this time too?

I imagine plenty in this biz would vote yes on 8 just like they will vote for Mccain/Palin. I see plenty of people who go out of their way to bash gays etc. The business has very little to do with acceptance.

GetSCORECash 11-03-2008 03:49 PM

In florida it's Amendment No 2.

Even though florida has it built into the constitution that marriage is between a men and women. This Amendment prevents anyone from haveing any type of civil union.

So a men and a women who simply want to have a contract between each other, but don't want to get married, won't be able too.


DirtyDanza 11-03-2008 04:27 PM

Id do it just so they can be as miserable as I am ...

im tired of the fucking fag parades and the smiles and shit I get... I Think it's time reality of getting married hits em...

let em know what marriage is really about..

Holly Lez! 11-03-2008 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 14998974)
Id do it just so they can be as miserable as I am ...

im tired of the fucking fag parades and the smiles and shit I get... I Think it's time reality of getting married hits em...

let em know what marriage is really about..

I love a good fag parade!!! :thumbsup

BradM 11-03-2008 04:53 PM

Why can't we have white pride and "normal" people parades where we display our pride for being white and straight? Why would I get beat by blacks and gays if I did that?

No on 8, so they can stop parading or I can start. Equal = EVERYONE can do it.

Redmanthatcould 11-03-2008 04:58 PM

When I saw some of their TV ads with the children in them, it made me sick to my fucking stomach.

The problem is not enough people take voting seriously, while all the religious right come out in droves.

LisaWP 11-03-2008 05:15 PM

I am voting yes because I have a bunch of gay friends and I hate weddings.

sin2oh 11-03-2008 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LisaWP (Post 14999422)
I am voting yes because I have a bunch of gay friends and I hate weddings.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

bhutocracy 11-03-2008 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM (Post 14999185)
Why can't we have white pride and "normal" people parades where we display our pride for being white and straight?

This sort of statement always reminds me of children when they complain about Father's Day and Mother's Day and say "Why isn't there a KIDS DAY??" And then mom and dad say : "Every day is kids day".

I get why some in a despised/opressed/unpopular minority might want a parade as a "fuck you" but even the people that complain about the lack of a straight parade from some innate sense of unfairness at the inability to stand on a float in backless chaps wouldn't actually WANT to be in it if there actually was one I suspect.

Not really worth pointing out I guess, but i've just never "got" that... Imagine if you had that little in the way of personal achievements you had the desire to celebrate the thing you're most proud of - being average. Dunno.. maybe it says something about my ego/vanity.

Holly Lez! 11-03-2008 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM (Post 14999185)
Why can't we have white pride and "normal" people parades where we display our pride for being white and straight? Why would I get beat by blacks and gays if I did that?

No on 8, so they can stop parading or I can start. Equal = EVERYONE can do it.

Who says you can't? I guess you straights just aren't proud enough to get together to organize it... :1orglaugh

Imortyl Pussycat 11-03-2008 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 14998590)
You mean like voting for the Republican ticket this time too?

I imagine plenty in this biz would vote yes on 8 just like they will vote for Mccain/Palin. I see plenty of people who go out of their way to bash gays etc. The business has very little to do with acceptance.

that makes me sad babe. i am so blinded i guess. i would think this industry would be all about no on 8. i laughed cuz my daughter carved it into a pumpkin for halloween, it was awesome

Almost Evil 11-03-2008 05:35 PM

I am definitely voting NO on prop 8, and urging everyone i know to vote no as well. So many are uneducated to the actual facts of the prop, its sad theyre voting yes on something they dont even understand.

_Richard_ 11-03-2008 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LisaWP (Post 14999422)
I am voting yes because I have a bunch of gay friends and I hate weddings.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

NetwErk GUrl 11-03-2008 05:43 PM

I already voted no. I'm sick over this ballot initiative. My No on 8 sign has been stolen off my lawn 4 times. It's disgusting. The Yes on 8 crew have been demonstrating all over Sacramento in droves. Your ideal set has to be so far from mine if you're publicly proud and ready to stand up as intolerant and discriminatory. Aren't those BAD qualities?

Ananda

JaneB 11-03-2008 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by uno (Post 14998565)
Gays deserve the same exact right to be as completely miserable as regular married couples.

Amen to that.

BradM 11-03-2008 05:48 PM

Absolute equality or bust. Don't tell me for half a fucking second there wouldn't be protests if there was a "Straight and Proud" parade.

A black president and yes on gay marriage, now I can have white straight parades. And yes I will get killed for doing it.

munki 11-03-2008 05:53 PM

Don't think you'll find many mormons round these parts...

tony286 11-03-2008 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat (Post 14998152)
no way anyone is voting yes on 8 in this biz, i can't imagine that. kisses Holly

You vote against 8 but vote republican.Dont you realize once two supreme court justices get picked by john they will never get to get marry anyway?

CosmicTang 11-03-2008 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM (Post 14999185)
Why can't we have white pride and "normal" people parades where we display our pride for being white and straight?

they used to have those:

http://library.thinkquest.org/12663/.../goosestep.jpg

http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/images/1151.jpg

BradM 11-03-2008 05:58 PM

Lorenzo: So what you're saying is that Gay pride parades and Black equality parades are simply Nazi-ism with a different color/sexuality?

AaliyahLove 11-03-2008 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 14998135)
I drove by a house yesterday, and they must have had a dozen 'vote yes on 8' signs up, and one little Mccain sign.... it had me thinking, what kind of person makes opposing gay marriage their most important cause that they plaster their whole yard with signs like that

they must be really really intolerant to the core to worry so much about what other people that want to marry themselves do compared to the reality of the real problems in the world

You should see how it is by my house.. I liv ein the most conservative white republican area of SoCal, and I am surrounded by churches.. Yes on 8 signs r everywhere.. it makes me sick!
:Oh crap

Holly Lez! 11-03-2008 05:59 PM

Honestly I dont think us gays would care if you had straight pride.... We dont think about your sexuality half as much as you guys think of ours... and no gay is going to kill you.. As for white pride ... i cant speak to that never felt the need....

BradM 11-03-2008 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AaliyahLove (Post 14999843)
You should see how it is by my house.. I liv ein the most conservative white republican area of SoCal, and I am surrounded by churches.. Yes on 8 signs r everywhere.. it makes me sick!
:Oh crap

Which area? I am in the Laguna area - children 6-17 are parading around with Yes signs. I politely let the adult on duty know that he is sick for pushing agendas using children.

bhutocracy 11-03-2008 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM (Post 14999751)
Absolute equality or bust. Don't tell me for half a fucking second there wouldn't be protests if there was a "Straight and Proud" parade.

A black president and yes on gay marriage, now I can have white straight parades. And yes I will get killed for doing it.

I think it would be met with an almost universal yawn and some derision... Somehow I don't think you'd be seen as some Che Guevera guerilla battling for the forces of mediocrity and worthy of being taken out. You'd more likely be seen as just sad in a "Aren't there some Seinfeld re-runs on that would be a better use of your time?" way.

You should do it. It would be funny seeing no one give a shit.

Imortyl Pussycat 11-03-2008 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14999820)
You vote against 8 but vote republican.Dont you realize once two supreme court justices get picked by john they will never get to get marry anyway?

if there wasn't a democratic house and senate, i would vote Obama. doesn't matter what anyone says about the way i vote or what they think of me for my choices, they are mine :2 cents:

BradM 11-03-2008 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy (Post 14999860)
I think it would be met with an almost universal yawn and some derision... Somehow I don't think you'd be seen as some Che Guevera guerilla battling for the forces of mediocrity and worthy of being taken out. You'd more likely be seen as just sad in a "Aren't there some Seinfeld re-runs on that would be a better use of your time?" way.

You should do it. It would be funny seeing no one give a shit.

You're spot on, I'm not saying anyone would care. You're completely correct. I'm just making an absolutely irrelevant point that comes together with this statement:

I think those of us who UNDERSTAND equality find that we don't CARE enough to make a stink out of things. I think No on 8 will pass easily because frankly... no one cares what people do with their beliefs. The majority I think are like this.

JaneB 11-03-2008 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat (Post 14999877)
if there wasn't a democratic house and senate, i would vote Obama. doesn't matter what anyone says about the way i vote or what they think of me for my choices, they are mine :2 cents:


Damn straight. Who you vote for is your business. People on here need to learn to respect personal choices.

CosmicTang 11-03-2008 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM (Post 14999838)
Lorenzo: So what you're saying is that Gay pride parades and Black equality parades are simply Nazi-ism with a different color/sexuality?

not at all.

The reason white pride and straight pride parades would be seen as inflammatory is that the white and straight populations have been in the position of power all along. Blacks and gays are the ones who have been mistreated.

Having a segment that has traditionally been the oppressor parade around and flaunt a superior position not something to be proud about.

CosmicTang 11-03-2008 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM (Post 14999881)

I think those of us who UNDERSTAND equality find that we don't CARE enough to make a stink out of things. I think No on 8 will pass easily because frankly... no one cares what people do with their beliefs. The majority I think are like this.


I think there are enough ignorant, fear-mongering rabble to vote with their knee-jerk emotions rather than their brains.

I hope I'm wrong, but I see this getting passed by about 60%.

bhutocracy 11-03-2008 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM (Post 14999881)
You're spot on, I'm not saying anyone would care. You're completely correct. I'm just making an absolutely irrelevant point that comes together with this statement:

I think those of us who UNDERSTAND equality find that we don't CARE enough to make a stink out of things. I think No on 8 will pass easily because frankly... no one cares what people do with their beliefs. The majority I think are like this.


I kinda just don't really get the issue at all. My marriage is threatened about 500 times more by straight women and me not putting dirty clothes in the laundry basket than it is by gay marriage.
I was going to say that a straight parade might work because men never pass up the chance to see boobies, whether it's at mardi gras, the new zealand boobs on bikes parade, or even the topless lesbians at gay pride parades.. But half the female porn stars you'd use as attractions do girl-on-girl so it's kinda like shooting yourself in the foot.

NetwErk GUrl 11-03-2008 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM (Post 14999881)
You're spot on, I'm not saying anyone would care. You're completely correct. I'm just making an absolutely irrelevant point that comes together with this statement:

I think those of us who UNDERSTAND equality find that we don't CARE enough to make a stink out of things. I think No on 8 will pass easily because frankly... no one cares what people do with their beliefs. The majority I think are like this.

I agree with you 100% that most people just don't care either way on this issue. Problem is, a lot of people who don't care about this don't care about anything else, so they don't vote. You know who cares enough to vote? Religious conservatives who feel passionately that if 4 and 8 don't pass we're all going to hell.

We have to outnumber them, and most of us don't care nearly as much because we don't think it's life or death like they do. (Soul to Heaven, or Soul to Hell.)

Ananda

Ananda


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