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10-29-2008, 10:32 PM

I guess the economy is mostly to blame. Last 2 weeks:

8000 hits with 1 sponsor (normally 1:500), 4 TRIAL signups

14000 hits with another sponsor (normally 1:670), 2 sales

5500 sponsor 3, 0 sales.

I'm glad I've diversified, this is seriously looking bad for affiliates.
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10-29-2008, 10:34 PM

In todays market, that's a good ratio.
You can thank your local tube site for that.
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10-29-2008, 10:35 PM

oh thats not a nice stats, however, I guess if you might had SE traffic, it would be MUCH better. It's TGP right?!
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10-29-2008, 10:38 PM

It is more than the economy I am afraid to say.
You can pretty much trust what Wired Guy said, or assume he is just saying it to get you to quit all together. Especially since he does a lot of SEO stuff. My own stuff is very targeted traffic, organic, etc. Traffic numbers near same, ratio's worse. Yet I am not seeing a significant number of more declines with my processor. (IE. failed join attempts, not enough funds, so forth).

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10-29-2008, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by adonthenet

oh thats not a nice stats, however, I guess if you might had SE traffic, it would be MUCH better. It's TGP right?!

general google SE traffic is doing terrible nowadays too

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10-29-2008, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by d-null

general google SE traffic is doing terrible nowadays too

Yes. I've only ever done search engine based highly targeted traffic. Sending millions of bullshit hits to a sponsor for a few sales is not my style.
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10-29-2008, 10:54 PM

Most of the world is in a recession.

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Suffering ceases when attachment to desire ceases.
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10-29-2008, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by pigman

Most of the world is in a recession.

fuck the recession, I bet guys are beating off to porn even more nowadays

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10-29-2008, 11:53 PM

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fuck the recession, I bet guys are beating off to porn even more nowadays

Yeah, free porn.

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10-29-2008, 11:57 PM

Honestly I haven't felt a decline in sales.

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10-30-2008, 12:01 AM

Were your ratios for a 2 week period better last month?

(Mind you, I'm not saying there ISN'T anything going on, I'm just wondering if this is only a short term change in your specific situation.)

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10-30-2008, 12:04 AM

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10-30-2008, 12:06 AM

I don't know what happened this month but we are 1:181 with broke straight girls and last month was 1:280 last month so we are looking good.

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10-30-2008, 12:19 AM

barely see a drop anywhere - honestly

keep finding new fresh things to offer your surfers

right now the celeb niche is making me bank hardcore , give it a shot!
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10-30-2008, 12:24 AM

I can confirm this. It's been terrible lately ;(

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10-30-2008, 12:26 AM

hehe. Well, 12 posts before the spam starting isn't so bad I guess.

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10-30-2008, 12:43 AM

Originally posted by hypedough

Honestly I haven't felt a decline in sales.

Thats because you had none to begin with.
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10-30-2008, 12:55 AM

Hiya,

The economy has had a massive effect on peoples spending BUT - It's end of the month pay day time now... have a look over the next 5 days and see if your sales pick up for a bit.

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10-30-2008, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -

Were your ratios for a 2 week period better last month?

(Mind you, I'm not saying there ISN'T anything going on, I'm just wondering if this is only a short term change in your specific situation.)

I've done 376 sales this month, compared to 514 last month, across half a dozen sponsors.

I blame Osama, I mean Obama, I mean tubes, erm, myself? must be me.

Time to go learn a trade.
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10-30-2008, 01:52 AM

Originally posted by clare-sizegenetics

Hiya,

The economy has had a massive effect on peoples spending BUT - It's end of the month pay day time now... have a look over the next 5 days and see if your sales pick up for a bit.

Clare

I can only think of a few type of people who get paid monthly, near the end or start of one to boot.

I can however put it pretty simply and if one can not understand it oh well. (micro niche stuff too, yet I see it in others stats as well). Will use my personal site for this since I can access everything.

Often more traffic the past few months. Several cases of huge traffic spikes too.
Ratio's have gone down by about 20% or so.
Join page conversions are much closer to expected. Not huge change there, little increase in exit's.
Transaction declines (new joins) has not risen much at all. Which it would if people had no funds available, bad card, had to try a different form, etc.
Re-bill transactions have pretty much stayed about the same. It is down around 1-2% but that also could be a reasonable margin of error. Again not a fund issue. Plus people are sticking around, enjoying updates, etc.

You could say yes the economy is making some people rethink before joining. I often saw drops in traffic anyways when there was real bad financial news being spilled 24/7. Which I also think accounted for it. Plus some may be looking up research, politics, etc.

It however does not explain the no noticeable increase in new join transaction declines. Nor does it explain why almost all re-bills are going through.

Others are more than welcome to share some biz like I just did. Others can say it is unchanged across a large number of sites (guess some could be down, others up = balance), people could say they see no difference, whatever. Just like to see the input and the more legit the better.

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10-30-2008, 02:10 AM

Originally posted by d-null

general google SE traffic is doing terrible nowadays too

Yeah, for me too. I got a celeb-sponsor that got 100's of different landing pages with a different celeb on each page. So I did setup what I thought was very targeted keywords for each page. For example, Paris Hiltons landing page I used keyword like:

Paris Hilton Sextape
Paris Hilton Nude
Paris Hilton Sex
Paris Hilton Naked
and so on.

My ratio is:
30630:4

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10-30-2008, 02:47 AM

for all of you who are saying your doing okay, or sales are up are you making a substantial amount of income in adult or just beer money like a few hundred or even a few thousand a month? because you won't be as affected as the ones with the larger incomes, they see a bigger picture.

plain and simple. tubes (illegal tubes with the long videos) fucked up adult at first, then the recession hit, and now it got even worse because people would rather go to the free tube sites than join a paysite because of the recession. if tube sites with all that free porn weren't around people would still be will to pay for porn even during a recession, and ratios at least would be as bad as are they are now. i go to some of the well-known illegal tube sites and wonder myself why i would ever need to join another paysite in my life.

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10-30-2008, 02:56 AM

Originally posted by Shaze

plain and simple. tubes (illegal tubes with the long videos) fucked up adult at first, then the recession hit, and now it got even worse because people would rather go to the free tube sites than join a paysite because of the recession. if tube sites with all that free porn weren't around people would still be will to pay for porn even during a recession, and ratios at least would be as bad as are they are now. i go to some of the well-known illegal tube sites and wonder myself why i would ever need to join another paysite in my life.

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10-30-2008, 02:59 AM

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10-30-2008, 03:05 AM

What a terrible period for xbiz Hope sales will come back soon!
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10-30-2008, 03:14 AM

Originally posted by Emil

Yeah, for me too. I got a celeb-sponsor that got 100's of different landing pages with a different celeb on each page. So I did setup what I thought was very targeted keywords for each page. For example, Paris Hiltons landing page I used keyword like:

Paris Hilton Sextape
Paris Hilton Nude
Paris Hilton Sex
Paris Hilton Naked
and so on.

My ratio is:
30630:4

You're a few years late to even be targeting paris hilton keywords IMO. She bought my first car back when her tape hit, but recently I've actually let a bunch of domains for her expire.

Celeb shit seems to convert in little brushfires. You have to know exactly what to target and when to do it. This is even more true if its strictly a SE landing page with no bookmaker building content.

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10-30-2008, 03:29 AM

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -

You're a few years late to even be targeting paris hilton keywords IMO. She bought my first car back when her tape hit, but recently I've actually let a bunch of domains for her expire.

Celeb shit seems to convert in little brushfires. You have to know exactly what to target and when to do it. This is even more true if its strictly a SE landing page with no bookmaker building content.

I only used "Paris Hilton" as a example. The list of celebs was pretty big.

And you may be right that the timing is important but still, 4 sales from 30k is still very low for this kind of traffic.

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10-30-2008, 03:36 AM

I think surfers are being more picky about what they buy. Some of my sponsors have dropped big time, others are doing well. Overall its not pretty but its recession, people are looking to cut back.

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10-30-2008, 03:42 AM

Originally posted by Emil

I only used "Paris Hilton" as a example. The list of celebs was pretty big.

And you may be right that the timing is important but still, 4 sales from 30k is still very low for this kind of traffic.

I know it was only an example and I used the example to illustrate why I wouldn't waste my link juice on general landing pages for a bunch of celeb names. The fact that it is a big list of celebs is the reason I think its a waste of juice. Maybe I'll just be quiet though, since I stopped messing with celeb traffic a while ago. I always got better returns elsewhere. I only jump in when I see something I consider "big".

If conversions are bad you can try to fix it... or you can sit and wonder...

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