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Kard63 10-13-2008 02:48 PM

SEO'd blogs not converting worht a fuck
 
I have some blogs SEO'd for pornstar names. Seems highly targeted to me. Still not converting worth a fuck. I've never traded this traffic because I thought it was so highly targeted it would hurt more than help. What are your thoughts?

xenigo 10-13-2008 02:49 PM

Hear that sound? That's the sound of the razor. Bzzzt. :2 cents:

kmanrox 10-13-2008 02:50 PM

xenigo, what's your pet-name again? i forgot it... Boodles or something?

xenigo 10-13-2008 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 14892034)
xenigo, what's your pet-name again? i forgot it... Boodles or something?

Something like that. :winkwink:

tranza 10-13-2008 02:57 PM

What kind of traffic do you get on those blogs??

d-null 10-13-2008 02:58 PM

if you google those pornstars, or if you search in the searchbox at red,xnx,8,mega, etc. tube can you find those pornstars for free?

Klen 10-13-2008 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tranza (Post 14892103)
What kind of traffic do you get on those blogs??

Does words "highly targetted seo traffic" doesnt mean anything to you?

BradM 10-13-2008 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 14892120)
if you google those pornstars, or if you search in the searchbox at red,xnx,8,mega, etc. tube can you find those pornstars for free?

Yea. I have a site that does well for solo girls and it converts worse than anything I've ever seen.

Lycanthrope 10-13-2008 02:59 PM

I guess since he was speaking of SEO, maybe he is getting um, Search Engine traffic?

Many other factors... the content, the writing... the site you are promoting... the economy... gravity... centrifugal force...

96ukssob 10-13-2008 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 14892011)
I have some blogs SEO'd for pornstar names. Seems highly targeted to me. Still not converting worth a fuck. I've never traded this traffic because I thought it was so highly targeted it would hurt more than help. What are your thoughts?

SE traffic has never converted that well for me, unless its on niche specific terms. Are the terms to general that your going after?

I used to go after keywords like "free porn" and "hot babes" stuff like that. brought in thousands of hits a day, but conversions were low. I went after more niche specific terms that maybe bring in a few hundred to a thousand a day, but the conversions are 10x better.

My :2 cents: on SE traffic... these are people who are continuously looking for free porn (movies, pictures, etc). They bounce around from site to site until they find something that gives them a wide range of what they are looking for, like a tube site or TGP. So, for these people their mindset is "internet = free porn" and you have to funnel them down into a paying customer with plenty of teaser galleries and such. showing them "this is crap because its free, this is AWESOME because you pay for it"

FlexxAeon 10-13-2008 03:03 PM

i always figured anyone looking for a specific pornstar is either looking for their official site and would bounce from an unofficial site/blog, or for freebies...

Kard63 10-13-2008 03:07 PM

Its google and yahoo traffic. They go to a blog bout the specific pornstar they were looking for. I thought I made that clear.

Thanks for all the responses.

WiredGuy 10-13-2008 03:08 PM

Pornstar name SE traffic used to be a goldmine, now a days, not so much.
WG

just a punk 10-13-2008 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tranza (Post 14892103)
What kind of traffic do you get on those blogs??

SE I guess :)

TampaToker 10-13-2008 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 14892222)
Pornstar name SE traffic used to be a goldmine, now a days, not so much.
WG

you ain't kidding lol

just a punk 10-13-2008 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 14892222)
Pornstar name SE traffic used to be a goldmine, now a days, not so much.
WG

I have one pornstar blog which is #1 in Google's SERP's by her name (she's a rather popular one). You know, that blog was never doing more than $100 a month :helpme :1orglaugh

On the other hand, I have lots of splogs that appear at the top of SERP's by low frequency queries only. These ones have more traffic and they sell better.

RRRED 10-13-2008 03:39 PM

Are you only providing them links to actual pornstar sites? You might want to simply offer them an alternative in case they've already seen what you have. Since they are looking for specific names, they've probably seen the same old stuff over and over.

I have an idea or two but would like to take a look at your blog first if you don't mind...

Nicky 10-13-2008 04:24 PM

I have some blogs that do the same. Seems the girls official site (if she has one) does better than just a pornstar mega site. Not rocket science that it does , I know..... but this traffic should count as highly targetted yet It isn't performing too good for me either.

johnuk 10-13-2008 04:52 PM

I used to be top5 for Aurora Snow, Gauge and one or 2 others in most of the top engines way back when, did really well and was easy money but I guess nowadays it's going to be harder. Which type of sites are you promoting? Their official sites or stuff like Brazzers/Bang Bros. I did really well sending to Deluxepass and Adultbouncer unofficial "fan" type sites.

Lamis 10-13-2008 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tranza (Post 14892103)
What kind of traffic do you get on those blogs??

You have no fucking idea what you are talking about.

Kard63 10-14-2008 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 14892222)
Pornstar name SE traffic used to be a goldmine, now a days, not so much.
WG

Yea I dont make shit. So much for SE being golden.

PR_Sebas 10-14-2008 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 14892222)
Pornstar name SE traffic used to be a goldmine, now a days, not so much.
WG

You're probably right for most people but why don't you ask the guys at freeones how they are converting. They have most of the top spots on google for most pornstar names.

My guess is with enough traffic you will convert. Just a guess though I don't have any experience targeting pornstar names.

Vigilante 10-14-2008 11:21 AM

Guess its not only Pornstars. It really depends on something i donīt understand atm :-P

Got two niche blogs on page 1 at google , one niche converts really well , one converts like 1 : 15000 and that for SE traffic :/

btw do you really expect to make money by targeting " free porn" ?

Mike Semen 10-14-2008 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 14892011)
I have some blogs SEO'd for pornstar names. Seems highly targeted to me. Still not converting worth a fuck. I've never traded this traffic because I thought it was so highly targeted it would hurt more than help. What are your thoughts?

I'm having exactly the same issues. Feel free to hit me up to compare notes.

TheDoc 10-14-2008 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by NwSebas (Post 14895788)
My guess is with enough traffic you will convert.

Volume is God - Content is King! - Problem is, you can have the best content and no traffic. But if you have traffic volume, you can have shit content and still make money.




Anyway, to the poster. Porn star / solo model niches, and blogs in general. You can't target the single words, you need longer tail phrases. The blogs target single groups of phrases, like Busty Amateurs. So from internal links to external, your links say Busty Amateurs. (or a models name)

While that my produce more traffic (if you get a good listing) at a single level. If your page had the proper words, you could use an anchor text like: Blond Busty Amateurs with large natural tits

At the simplest level, you will now list for several variations of that phrase (based on words on the page and anchor text linking to the page). This will increase the total amount of long tail phrases.

At that point, the words/searches are MUCH more targeted. If a person actually looks up a Blond Busty Amateur with large natural tits, and the search returns that... that's very very targeted/filtered traffic.

My 2 cents on blogs..

Jens Van Assterdam 10-14-2008 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Vigilante (Post 14895794)
do you really expect to make money by targeting " free porn" ?

If i compare your sig to my keywords id say YES :1orglaugh

DarkJedi 10-14-2008 11:40 AM

SEO is dead.

all the monies are in tube sites.

AtlantisCash 10-14-2008 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 14892183)
SE traffic has never converted that well for me, unless its on niche specific terms. Are the terms to general that your going after?

I used to go after keywords like "free porn" and "hot babes" stuff like that. brought in thousands of hits a day, but conversions were low. I went after more niche specific terms that maybe bring in a few hundred to a thousand a day, but the conversions are 10x better.

My :2 cents: on SE traffic... these are people who are continuously looking for free porn (movies, pictures, etc). They bounce around from site to site until they find something that gives them a wide range of what they are looking for, like a tube site or TGP. So, for these people their mindset is "internet = free porn" and you have to funnel them down into a paying customer with plenty of teaser galleries and such. showing them "this is crap because its free, this is AWESOME because you pay for it"


Don't take it personally but what You're saying is bullshit, How Seo traffic might be related with the conversions we're talking about, İn My Openion Search Engine traffic is the Cleanest and most quality traffic as many will agree here, Why do You blaim seo for Conversions other then Your content, Your Design Etc???

RTP 10-14-2008 12:02 PM

i've tested this topic and targeted seo towards pornstar blog and found it is similar to seo on a mega boob blog or general porn blog...you may have good serps but sending them to more opportunities and what i mean is this..

dude looks for nika noir or whoever, is horny and wants more of her to wack off, hits your blog sees other bitches that look better so keeps going looking, googling more of the other chicks and surfing

instead send the guy to a specific nika noir blog or landing and having him stay. you may get better results getting more specific and targeting for the exact term. traffic to your site may be less because lack of other terms but your ratios may be better catering towards what specifically they want

:2 cents:

Barefootsies 10-14-2008 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 14892022)
Hear that sound? That's the sound of the razor. Bzzzt. :2 cents:


AtlantisCash 10-14-2008 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 14895870)
SEO is dead.

all the monies are in tube sites.




it's just an other face of the game, Seo is just like vampires, You can only kill it by pointing a stick in it's heart,

That Means You should cut whole internet is off from the earth to kill it ;))

pornguy 10-14-2008 12:11 PM

What site are you promoting.

Kard63 10-14-2008 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 14896043)
What site are you promoting.

Almost entirely Brazzers. Their organization skills(webmaster and surfer area), no bullshit (late updates late payments), $35 PPS (including trials), and NATS is hard to fucking beat.

bloggingseo 10-14-2008 07:41 PM

It's because Google knows you post on GFY with a cat's ass hole in your sig

Kard63 10-14-2008 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bloggingseo (Post 14898488)
it's because google knows you post on gfy with a cat's ass hole in your sig

lmfao!!!!

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CyberHustler 10-14-2008 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 14898472)
Almost entirely Brazzers. Their organization skills(webmaster and surfer area), no bullshit (late updates late payments), $35 PPS (including trials), and NATS is hard to fucking beat.

Don't they give all their shit away for free or am I trippin'?

fsudirectory 10-14-2008 09:05 PM

alot of free juggcash material all over the net. But when their new sites come out, they do well.

GAMEFINEST 10-14-2008 09:09 PM

ah yes brazzer..s

xenigo 10-14-2008 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NwSebas (Post 14895788)
My guess is with enough traffic you will convert.

You need to get a clue. :2 cents:

Think about what you just said. "With enough traffic you'll convert". No shit? With enough people sent to ANYTHING ( I mean literally ANYTHING... ) you will have some sales. Now that we've established that sending enough retards to a join page - someone WILL join - you have to understand that what you're apparently telling yourself is that MORE traffic will somehow increase your productivity.

Now, our goal isn't to waste our productivity just sending traffic to any old bullshit join page or paysite. The goal is to promote something actually compelling. The goal is efficiency. To make more money with LESS effort, not making MORE money with MORE effort. Do you understand now why what you said is so fucking out-of-this-world moronic?

Most webmasters on this forum need to just forget about all these program's marketing hype promising "the most killer conversion" and realize the reality of the situation. Most of these programs are using licensed content that every surfer on this entire earth has already seen, and the only people these programs and their GFY skins are fooling is you.

dynastoned 10-14-2008 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 14892222)
Pornstar name SE traffic used to be a goldmine, now a days, not so much.
WG

dude no shit it's crazy how much it's changed in the last year.

NetHorse 10-14-2008 09:59 PM

Try promoting an entire network of pornstars even if the page is for a specific one. Works great for me.

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