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slapass 10-11-2008 04:25 PM

Has the US ever had a big conspiracy???
 
Has the US ever had a big conspiracy??? People talk about Kennedy, moon landing and 911 in terms of this but now I have several friends who think global warming is all a big conspiracy. Why is this? Has their ever been one proven or one that you know about?

- Jesus Christ - 10-11-2008 04:32 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Incident

NaughtyVisions 10-11-2008 04:32 PM

Chris Daughtry finishing 4th on American Idol. :winkwink: :thumbsup

TheDoc 10-11-2008 04:32 PM

The U.S. has actually attacked itself a few times, to start or have a reason to go into War. They started off as conspiracy theories, but later proved to be fact.

Mr. Cool Ice 10-11-2008 04:33 PM

If you can prove it, you end up dead before you get the chance.

slapass 10-11-2008 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14885189)
The U.S. has actually attacked itself a few times, to start or have a reason to go into War. They started of as conspiracy theories, but later proved to be fact.

Can you name one? Not picking just want to look it up.

KillerK 10-11-2008 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14885189)
The U.S. has actually attacked itself a few times, to start or have a reason to go into War. They started off as conspiracy theories, but later proved to be fact.

When did we attack ourselves?

Mr. Cool Ice 10-11-2008 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ - (Post 14885187)

Started the Vietnam war.

The USA is FILTHY. Lots of blood on it's hands.

NaughtyVisions 10-11-2008 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 14885191)
Can you name one? Not picking just want to look it up.

I was thinking the same thing. I'd love to read about it/them.

StuartD 10-11-2008 04:36 PM

Of course yes (if your political party of choice is not in power at the time) and of course not (if your political party of choice is in power at the time).

slapass 10-11-2008 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ - (Post 14885187)

Shit we have a winner. I think you can add Iraq into the same thing. This is after thinking about it.

Cole Trickle 10-11-2008 04:41 PM

hmm, Esoteric Agenda

The Duck 10-11-2008 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cole Trickle (Post 14885212)

:thumbsup

slapass 10-11-2008 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cole Trickle (Post 14885212)

Yeah this exactly the type of shit I avoid.

- Jesus Christ - 10-11-2008 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cole Trickle (Post 14885212)

This crap only furthers the enslavement of mankind by jumping to nonsensical conclusions, forcing intelligent people to dismiss the valid information.

Think about it.

xmas13 10-11-2008 04:55 PM

http://www.donath.org/Quotes/Paranoia/

Cole Trickle 10-11-2008 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 14885231)
Yeah this exactly the type of shit I avoid.

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Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ - (Post 14885240)
This crap only furthers the enslavement of mankind by jumping to nonsensical conclusions, forcing intelligent people to dismiss the valid information.

Think about it.

did you even watch half of the video? Open your eyes, NWO

xmas13 10-11-2008 05:10 PM

PBS 1987 - "The Secret Government" (Part 1 of 2) on Yahoo! Video

http://video.yahoo.com/watch/182590/747769

TheDoc 10-11-2008 05:10 PM

As someone posted, Vietnam and I remember some other ship, but can't recall what exactly the event was. I'm sure I know of others but I just can't recall them.

But don't think the U.S. Gov wouldn't attack its own people, they wrote out an entire document on exactly how to do this with Cuba.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662 (2001)

And now things are coming out about Pearl Harbor, that we actually knew it was coming and our Gov or uppers allowed the bombing to happen.

Brain trying to wake the info up..

- Jesus Christ - 10-11-2008 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cole Trickle (Post 14885265)
did you even watch half of the video? Open your eyes, NWO

I've seen it ALL OF IT before and countless like it... I'm very into conspiracies and crimes of the rich. This video goes into off the wall esoteric bullshit with no strong or convincing evidence.

I don’t understand why some of you won't let go of that aspect and just focus on the actual crimes being committed.

Actually I do understand... It makes it feel more exciting to you.

IllTestYourGirls 10-11-2008 05:22 PM

USS Liberty. According to people on the ship they were attacked by our allies and our own ships did not come to help even though the ships were just mins away.

annaliese 10-11-2008 05:23 PM

if you are interested in things that are sometimes called conspiracy theory i recommend

End Game
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...00562261&hl=en

Zeitgeist
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...43189197&hl=en

Zeitgeist Addendum
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...95921912&hl=en

After Shock Media 10-11-2008 05:27 PM

CIA & Cocaine into LA.
U.S. Senate hearings (Church/Inouye). (1947) The CIA begins its study of LSD as a potential weapon for use by American intelligence. Human subjects (both civilian and military) are used with and without their knowledge.
The Tuskegee Syphilis Study.
The Pellagra Incident.
Confessed by President Bill Clinton. (1947) Colonel E.E. Kirkpatrick of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission issues a secret document (Document 07075001, January 8, 1947) stating that the agency will begin administering intravenous doses of radioactive substances to human subjects.

Lists are actually fucking super long *way into late 90's of real shit we have pulled, some still with a veil of conspiracy attachment if strung together to form a larger conspiracy action which is or could be debated. However the facts are typically sitting there, even with public apologies.

StickyGreen 10-11-2008 05:27 PM

Don't worry guys, no one EVER conspires on this planet. There is not 1 single person in power who is a bad person. They all love you and are looking out for your best interests. The next time someone tells you to "wake up" to all the evil shit that is going on, just tell them to relax because this world is perfect and will be a beautiful place forever.

And for you super-thick naive motherfuckers, yes that was sarcasm.

IllTestYourGirls 10-11-2008 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 14885321)
CIA & Cocaine into LA.
U.S. Senate hearings (Church/Inouye). (1947) The CIA begins its study of LSD as a potential weapon for use by American intelligence. Human subjects (both civilian and military) are used with and without their knowledge.
The Tuskegee Syphilis Study.
The Pellagra Incident.
Confessed by President Bill Clinton. (1947) Colonel E.E. Kirkpatrick of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission issues a secret document (Document 07075001, January 8, 1947) stating that the agency will begin administering intravenous doses of radioactive substances to human subjects.

Lists are actually fucking super long *way into late 90's of real shit we have pulled, some still with a veil of conspiracy attachment if strung together to form a larger conspiracy action which is or could be debated. However the facts are typically sitting there, even with public apologies.

And they can still do studies and experiments on civilians without telling us :thumbsup

StickyGreen 10-11-2008 05:33 PM

Even project MKULTRA is a proven conspiracy. It was the CIA's mind control program. They even had congressional hearings about it eventually, and it was discovered that the Director of the CIA at the time had the majority of files relating to the project destroyed.

After Shock Media 10-11-2008 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 14885332)
And they can still do studies and experiments on civilians without telling us :thumbsup

Do not get me wrong. I know Governments, particularly agencies typically have done some vile shit and continue to do so. I am just more of a realist and not a conspiracy theorist. The vast, and I do mean vast conspiracy theories out there I personally think are 95% full on bullshit sprinkled in with about an even mixture of facts and assumption strings.

After Shock Media 10-11-2008 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 14885339)
Even project MKULTRA is a proven conspiracy. It was the CIA's mind control program. They even had congressional hearings about it eventually, and it was discovered that the Director of the CIA at the time had the majority of files relating to the project destroyed.

On the 3rd October 1995 ,President Clinton publicly apologized to the thousands of people who became victims of MK ULTRA and other mind-control experimental programs.

borys 10-11-2008 06:05 PM

Weapons of Mass Destruction anyone?

collegeboobies 10-11-2008 06:06 PM

There have been tons of proven CIA conspiracies.


A conspiracy against the government, the Business Plot

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-11-2008 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 14885177)
Has the US ever had a big conspiracy??? People talk about Kennedy, moon landing and 911 in terms of this but now I have several friends who think global warming is all a big conspiracy. Why is this? Has their ever been one proven or one that you know about?


Ya mean the conspiracies of America are not good enough?
Or do you think GLobal Warming is something the USA thought up?

I am not sure what you mean.

dav3 10-11-2008 07:06 PM

Air pollution is a conspiracy.

slapass 10-12-2008 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14885533)
Ya mean the conspiracies of America are not good enough?
Or do you think GLobal Warming is something the USA thought up?

I am not sure what you mean.

I do not think in terms of conspiracy. Global warming takes like 2 minutes to get the facts. Tons of older people think it is false and being done just to spend money on research that is meaningless. I have no idea why they would think this but they do. So I thought maybe as you age you run across so many huge times your govt has lied to you that you believe they are always doing it.

James124 10-12-2008 08:05 AM

this one is good

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

RobertD 10-12-2008 08:15 AM

Cointelpro

Mr Pheer 10-12-2008 09:46 AM

There is a chinese restaurant down the street, I think they conspire to make everyone that eats there to shit thier pants shortly afterwards.


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