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  • MBS Auto
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2004
    • 1725

    #1

    Business is DEAD

    wow... this really sucks right now
    Shoes and Boot
  • Ethersync
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2008
    • 5289

    #2
    Speak for yourself. Today was a good day for me
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    • xmas13
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2004
      • 5176

      #3
      No credit, no business.
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      • brassmonkey
        Pay It Forward
        • Sep 2005
        • 77385

        #4
        business if fine for me
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        • Barefootsies
          Choice is an Illusion
          • Feb 2005
          • 42635

          #5

          Should You Email Your Members?

          Link1 | Link2 | Link3

          Enough Said.

          "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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          • notime
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2003
            • 8027

            #6
            People get what they wish for or believe in.
            Sales up 30% this month here.
            Never loose faith. Fight !!!

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            • SilentKnight
              Megan Fox's fluffer
              • Oct 2005
              • 24812

              #7
              The past two weeks have been record sales for us.

              Then again, we always seem to do exceptionally well during economic slumps - dunno why.

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              • RP Fade
                Confirmed User
                • Sep 2003
                • 3343

                #8
                Ratios down a tad, but overall a good start to the weekend
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                • C-Luv
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2008
                  • 3025

                  #9
                  They always say work smarter not harder. In these tough times you need to work smarter and harder!
                  C-Luv
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                  • Marcus Aurelius
                    No Refunds Issued.
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 14809

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SilentKnight
                    The past two weeks have been record sales for us.

                    Then again, we always seem to do exceptionally well during economic slumps - dunno why.

                    "It's the Sexcession"

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                    • The Duck
                      Adult Content Provider
                      • May 2005
                      • 18243

                      #11
                      Last month was excellent, this month is utter garbage and might be the worst for me since I started in adult.
                      Skype Horusmaia
                      ICQ 41555245
                      Email [email protected]

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                      • Sosa
                        In Tushy Land
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 40149

                        #12
                        decent day here. Had a solo girl gallery do awesome with PPS

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                        • Eriic
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 2995

                          #13
                          28,000 cross sales this year alone.....

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                          • d-null
                            . . .
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 13724

                            #14
                            ratios are way down

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                            • Mr. Cool Ice
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 1289

                              #15
                              102 new sales. 648 re-bills.

                              I'm down 24% from this time last year.
                              NUR COOL UND GEIL

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                              • notime
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 8027

                                #16
                                always ask yourself why
                                imagine YOU being the customer
                                what does a customer want and why and at what price and how keep the customer
                                think out of the box
                                innovate, don't immitate, go out of your way for each customer and exceed their expectations
                                Our industry is known for first adaptor innovations!
                                Make him an offer he cannot refuse.....

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                                • d-null
                                  . . .
                                  • Apr 2007
                                  • 13724

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by notime
                                  always ask yourself why
                                  imagine YOU being the customer...............


                                  Make him an offer he cannot refuse.....

                                  the tube and rapidshare sites already thought of that, offer him everything he ever wants for FREE

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                                  • notime
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jun 2003
                                    • 8027

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by d-null
                                    the tube and rapidshare sites already thought of that, offer him everything he ever wants for FREE
                                    -never loose faith or give up
                                    -always fight & be positive
                                    -adapt or die.
                                    -never spend more then is wise unless it gains somehow
                                    -be prepared to learn no matter what
                                    -use money wisely and save for shitty times

                                    The day you give up is the day you loose.
                                    There are always (!) willing paying customers out there.
                                    Microsoft doesn't chase these broke students using windows illegally, they go after dell, hp, fujitsu siemenens, businesses, governments, hospitals, etc.
                                    Get it where it's @, the $ I mean.
                                    Niche your bizz

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                                    • HorseShit
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Dec 2004
                                      • 17513

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                      The past two weeks have been record sales for us.

                                      Then again, we always seem to do exceptionally well during economic slumps - dunno why.
                                      It's because people are pissed off at the world and then look at your content

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                                      • Porko
                                        SeeMyBucks.com
                                        • Sep 2002
                                        • 4014

                                        #20
                                        Average month here..

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                                        • notime
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jun 2003
                                          • 8027

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jdavis
                                          It's because people are pissed off at the world and then look at your content
                                          These guys have the Bush spanking VID ?

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                                          • Fabien
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 4789

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Ethersync
                                            Speak for yourself. Today was a good day for me
                                            What ?
                                            You made a sale ?

                                            Funny how new guys say it's better than it was before.
                                            Everything is relative.

                                            For me, after 10 years online. IT'S A FUCKING NIGHTMARE !

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                                            • Fabien
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 4789

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Mr. Cool Ice
                                              102 new sales. 648 re-bills.

                                              I'm down 24% from this time last year.
                                              Same percentage here
                                              Not sales i meant, but your 24% thingo
                                              Some programs were doing 1:400 and now it's 1:2000 and worst !

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                                              • xmas13
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2004
                                                • 5176

                                                #24
                                                GFY is dead, so I'm not sure business is that good for the majority of adult webmasters.
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                                                • Hazlewood
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Sep 2006
                                                  • 1555

                                                  #25
                                                  stay strong...keep your head above the water and better days will be ahead

                                                  Skype: hazegsm

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                                                  • tony299
                                                    lurker
                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                    • 57021

                                                    #26
                                                    its off by about 25 percent for us this year. The problem will be cc companies are reducing open credit. Look at your rebills its seems the amount not going thru is growing.

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                                                    • Jim_Gunn
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                      • 5702

                                                      #27
                                                      I have a single niche blog that was making steady sales in June, July, August and September for membership signups, webcam sales and clip sales but ever since this economic crisis the last couple of weeks have been almost dead! It's very frustrating.

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                                                      • Ace_luffy
                                                        www.creationcrew.com
                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                        • 12164

                                                        #28
                                                        stay tuned.....


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                                                        • rock-reed
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • May 2005
                                                          • 1892

                                                          #29
                                                          Torrents and Tubes are growing exponentially.

                                                          Today's porn buying generation has an "everything is free" mindset...

                                                          Just as with music.
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                                                          • GAMEFINEST
                                                            Make STACK$
                                                            • Nov 2006
                                                            • 14470

                                                            #30
                                                            its over as we speak
                                                            Compound interest.

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                                                            • CaptainHowdy
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                              • 94034

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                                              The past two weeks have been record sales for us.

                                                              Then again, we always seem to do exceptionally well during economic slumps - dunno why.
                                                              Freud called it "repetition compulsion" ... people just asking for more and more pain , heh.

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                                                              • rick-e
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Nov 2005
                                                                • 19935

                                                                #32
                                                                ratio's are down for sure

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                                                                • Stellar
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Feb 2008
                                                                  • 611

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Just no denying it now, sales are suffering for sure.

                                                                  Terrible for me because I'm in between sponsors and doing "traffic tests" does not yield trustworthy results at the moment, so I'm having a really difficult time doing my litmus tests.

                                                                  Where as before you could easily gauge what is converting and what isn't, now it's a bit clouded with these inflated ratios.

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                                                                  • SeanLEE
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Feb 2006
                                                                    • 1556

                                                                    #34
                                                                    This is a nightmare for me- a nightmare.... I market so many diverse sponsors- and nothing is selling!!!!! My American traffic isnt worth shit!
                                                                    I spammed in threads!

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                                                                    • dynastoned
                                                                      mmm yeah!
                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                      • 5061

                                                                      #35
                                                                      porn site stats for today...

                                                                      Total 1751 1318 1 1:1318 $12.90
                                                                      Totals 805 0 0 0 0:805 1 0 $ 0.00 $14.97
                                                                      CCBill $14.35 1 5,784 1:5784.0
                                                                      Totals 113 1 $35 1:113
                                                                      Total 0 1 1 7201 4353 860 1:4353 1 $11.94

                                                                      dating/cams for today....

                                                                      Totals 672 5 0 $0.00 1:134 n/a
                                                                      Total 665 26 1:25 1 1:665 $35.00
                                                                      TOTAL 371 1:13 28 1:14 2 $70.00
                                                                      TOTALS 1280 587 12M, 1F 1 $0.00 $130.00
                                                                      Total 740 462 3 26.97 1:154 0 0.00 $0.058 $26.97

                                                                      i just posted totals without sponsor names because i didn't want to hurt anyones feelings. also the only traffic that wasn't search engine traffic in this entire post was the first total in the dating/cams area.

                                                                      make your own conclusions. but imo porn just doesn't sell that well. call it tube sites, call it rapidshare, call it recession, whatever.. stats don't lie.

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                                                                      • amateurcanada
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                        • 3766

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Business can be slow around now. I recommend harnessing your EU and international sales. Sometimes slowdowns can happen in certain geographic regions

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                                                                        • mynameisjim
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Aug 2007
                                                                          • 2985

                                                                          #37
                                                                          The problem with these threads is that some people either don't realize or don't care that their personal sales can be doing well while the industry as a whole is in decline.

                                                                          For example, a paysite I'm associated with and launched earlier this year has been growing month after month, but based on the other sites I promote as an affiliate, I can see that my personal growth is not representative of the industry as a whole.

                                                                          Not to mention a big program I use to push stopped putting out new FGHs and the "new" sites they just launched are all old recycled content from previous sites under a different name. They are obviously struggling.
                                                                          jim (at) amateursconvert . com Amateurs Convert

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                                                                          • Antonio
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                                            • 14136

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by dynastoned
                                                                            porn site stats for today...

                                                                            Total 1751 1318 1 1:1318 $12.90
                                                                            Totals 805 0 0 0 0:805 1 0 $ 0.00 $14.97
                                                                            CCBill $14.35 1 5,784 1:5784.0
                                                                            Totals 113 1 $35 1:113
                                                                            Total 0 1 1 7201 4353 860 1:4353 1 $11.94

                                                                            dating/cams for today....

                                                                            Totals 672 5 0 $0.00 1:134 n/a
                                                                            Total 665 26 1:25 1 1:665 $35.00
                                                                            TOTAL 371 1:13 28 1:14 2 $70.00
                                                                            TOTALS 1280 587 12M, 1F 1 $0.00 $130.00
                                                                            Total 740 462 3 26.97 1:154 0 0.00 $0.058 $26.97

                                                                            make your own conclusions
                                                                            I already did - AFF rocks ;)

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                                                                            • DaLord
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                              • 3318

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Ethersync
                                                                              Speak for yourself. Today was a good day for me
                                                                              It's good to me too... they come in a steady flow. Day after day

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                                                                              • Paul Markham
                                                                                Too old to care
                                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                                • 52942

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by kandah
                                                                                Last month was excellent, this month is utter garbage and might be the worst for me since I started in adult.
                                                                                At last someone telling the truth. Anyone who telling us they're doing as well this month as last is unique or lying. Most of them boasting are sponsors I suspect. When you sign up to their program and see how well they do you will know if they're honest or not.

                                                                                The West, where we all get 90% of our business from, is in a financial crisis. People will be watching very closely what they spend. And watching what they spend it on. As for loading a credit card with more debt, I don't think so.

                                                                                We are down both on content store sales, custom and paysite joins. And got the balls to admit it.



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                                                                                • Paul Markham
                                                                                  Too old to care
                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                  • 52942

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by d-null
                                                                                  the tube and rapidshare sites already thought of that, offer him everything he ever wants for FREE
                                                                                  No Tube sites do not give the porn buyer what he wants all the time. They give him an alternative to what we sell him. If you have something unique, high quality, good and true porn you will be fine. If you're offering the same porn as 10,000 other sites you will suffer.

                                                                                  Recently I have been looking at Tubes and the content. If it's stolen from paysites or DVDs then it's small wonder paysites and DVD sales are down. Most of it is cloned boring crap. Paying $30 for a month or a DVD of it is the last thing I would do.

                                                                                  But we all know it's down to traffic so just send more clicks and tell people in a recession you're doing even better.



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                                                                                  • Sloane
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                                    • 815

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    my sales this month are way down...getting lots of refunds too. Been doing this since 2001, definately the worst I have seen.

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                                                                                    • VeriSexy
                                                                                      Join The Royal Family
                                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                                      • 25463

                                                                                      #43
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                                                                                      • Peace
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Sep 2004
                                                                                        • 5711

                                                                                        #44
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                                                                                        • nikki99
                                                                                          Supermodel
                                                                                          • Nov 2004
                                                                                          • 23072

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          rock is DEAD!! also, Manson says
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                                                                                          • Pete-KT
                                                                                            Workin With The Devil
                                                                                            • Oct 2004
                                                                                            • 51532

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            We had a record day in sales today

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                                                                                            • Manowar
                                                                                              jellyfish  
                                                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                                                              • 71528

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              ratios down a bit here, but traffic is up

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                                                                                              • Nautilus
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                                • 1631

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Tubes are shit, but with their "help" I was finally able to figure what a boring crap 99% of what our industry produces is. No wonder people do not want to pay for it. And those couches... Just imagine how surfers are sick of them already.

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                                                                                                • Robbie
                                                                                                  Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                  • 20960

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Hey guys...back in 2001 and 2002 people were screaming that sales were off and the "industry" was through. Problem was they were all pushing the old Max Cash and ARS stuff. What they didn't realize was that "Reality" sites were taking off like a motherfucker. Nasty Dollars was large and in charge. But to hear the majority of the webmasters the "industry" was dead.

                                                                                                  mynameisjim, you made a good point. But what if you reversed that line of thinking? Perhaps the sales you are doing IS representative of the "industry".

                                                                                                  I can't sell a damn membership to save my soul to any of the big generic "mega-sites" anymore. That shit is all over the tubes. Yet, my claudia-marie.com site is growing and growing.

                                                                                                  Just like in 2002, I didn't base any conclusions about the "industry" on sales to programs that had fallen out of favor. I simply looked to the next big thing. The big thing then was "reality" sites.

                                                                                                  In actuality...2001 and 2002 were HUGE moneymaking years in this "industry"...but about half of the guys that had been making good money the previous 5 years just didn't change it up. They stuck to their old pop-ups, and 404 traps and kept building those stupid little "Freesites" that were just a warning page and then a couple of pics with a link to the site...and then when they couldn't make money anymore they declared the "industry" dead.

                                                                                                  It wasn't. And it isn't. You just need to think like a surfer. Yes, you can go to the tube and torrents and see a shitload of free porn.

                                                                                                  So what you should do is go there and see which ones of the affiliate programs you use are all over the place for free. Then take a close look at the remaining affiliate programs.

                                                                                                  Which ones have EXCLUSIVE content, member interaction, and have protected their content and kept it off of the tubes and torrents? And if it's a niche...then it's pure gold.
                                                                                                  Last edited by Robbie; 10-11-2008, 03:36 PM.
                                                                                                  -Robbie
                                                                                                  ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                                                  • d-null
                                                                                                    . . .
                                                                                                    • Apr 2007
                                                                                                    • 13724

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    agree with most of what you are saying Robbie, but unfortunately that strategy will save only a very small segment of industry participants, it is not a strategy to save the adult industry

                                                                                                    when those mega sites aren't selling, that represents the fact that the vast majority of potential customers aren't buying anymore, because they are satisfied by what they are finding for free, and once they bust a nut they are happy
                                                                                                    .... sure, there will always be some niches that are able to support a few people, but the adult industry as a whole can't survive that way, and the webcam/dating cash cow is only going to carry things so far

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