Biden is gonna field dress Palin's moose tonight
 

If this shit was on PPV I would actually pay to watch this debate. Get ready for some good old fashioned GOTCHA debating!

McCain " You guys aren't playing fair"

Hey fuck face, when has anything in political campaigning ever been fair?

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Gonna really suck for her to have to speak on her own and not have Johnny "Oxygen" McCain there to grab the questions directed at her like he did on the Couric interview.

I gotta go to the store and get some popcorn.

are they gonna have their ears checked? I bet the mccain-palin camp would try anything to sneak a lil receiver in her ear to save it a little bit

Palin will want to do what this girl in your sig is doing to Biden when he gets finished with her AIREK :1orglaugh

http://www.airek.com/gfy/ebb.gif

This could be the deciding factor for most of those still on the fence :2 cents:
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For some reason I think she'll be ok. Maybe its my pessimistic nature.

Performing well [answering the moderator's questions coherently] tonight will save Palin from becoming a national laughingstock. I don't think Palin is stupid, just grossly unprepared. She's a local person with seemingly with no experience or interest in national and international issues until having been selected as McCain's running mate. It's almost surreal that McCain chose her as his VP when there were other options (male and female).

[QUOTE=Mike33;14845120]save Palin from becoming a national laughingstock. I don't think Palin is stupid,QUOTE]

You dont think palin is stupid?

OK, im willing to wager that you're American and that you live in the country of America.

Fuck mccain & palin.

yeah id check her ears but may not matter it wont come out her mouth right anyway

If he refers to her as sweety honey, or anything like that, even her first name, he may be fucking himself in the ass.

fuck obama

All Palin has to do is hold her own and she wins even if she doesn't win. :2 cents:

Not saying she's brilliant either. I think she's more or less an average person. I think you could take any random professional woman off any major city street and they'd have more on the ball than Palin. Clearly not VP or potential Presidential material.

Whatever the case, McCain made a fatal error in selecting her. I don't think it's possible to win with Palin on the ticket.

i'd rather have a moose as vp than her.

this country is going to be the laughing stock of the world if the United Stupid of America elects McCain and Palin.

I dunno..I think expectations are so low that she cannot possibly do any worse than she already has...or maybe she can..she never ceases to surprise me. The thing about Palin is that she can improvise and connect/sympathize with audiences. Debates are not about knowing the issues, they're about how you would handle them. Im sure she's gonna try to speak about personal experiences, throw in a few zingers and anecdotes (which she's very good at) and fill up the 90-120 seconds with ambiguity, hometown stories, maybe lies, and bash the Dems in the process. That should be easy for her to do..

It's gonna be interesting. But I think people are underestimating her, at least in this kind of format, and that's something you never ever do on any stage, whether it be athletic, political, social or any other.

Once again, I think people that think elections are all about issues are out of touch with the sad reality. You've got racial, gender, demographic and social undertones along with the real issues in this election. Where people put them on a list of priorities is something that remains to be seen. And leaving this up to the average 'Joe Six Pack' as someone said with sub-body temperature IQ makes things even more unclear..

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Agreed :2 cents:

If there is any format favorable to Palin it's this one.

yep.

remember it doesnt matter if you get the most votes, they'll change the rules.

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oh shit.

On MSNBC they showed some old clips of Palin in governor debates ...

In my view, her answers were just as bad as in some recent TV interviews, and yet she won the election anyways.

At the moment Obama definitely has a big edge in polls ... but toss in some terror alerts, war mongering, vote fixing, etc and McCain wins. Those who doubt that only need to look at how Bush won again in 2004. Point is the debate will be interesting to watch, but likely, no matter how poorly Palin does, not matter one bit in the final outcome.

Personally I'm likely going to vote 3rd party; probably for Bob Barr.

To digress a bit, both the major candidates are very similar; more of the same - anyone doubting that need only look at the recent 700 billion bailout package - both McCain and Obama supported it right away even back when it was only 3 pages giving the govt a blank check.

Ron

He's gonna make a complete fool out of her. The big issue of the day is the economy and the credit crisis so the question is how is she going to response to questions on the big picture, fiscal policy etc.

They should call this debate off because it may violate her human rights (she is going to be completely mauled).

Look what happened when Homer tried to vote for Obama:

the fucked up part is biden cant be too aggressive with her or they will say he is picking on a woman.they want to be able to run for president but there is a double standard.

Actually its a shame I dont have sky plus or even PPV or id record it. Hell i might just stay up and watch it anyway, this is gonna be too good to miss.

The Simpsons live in Florida?

That machine seems to work the way the ones in Florida work.

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great fucking picture.

have faith in biden! he might start talking about when he fixed the economy on the moon.. you know.. the last time he was there

what time is oit on?

As an aside, what's with McCain's disposition towards Obama

Notice in the debates he didn't once even look at Obama. After it, Obama took the initiative to shake McCain's hand and say "Good job John". Likewise on the Senate floor Obama went over to Republican territory to greet McCain and his staff and similarly got the "go away" look according to article http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/beyond/2...ry-uncomf.html

Isn't McCain all about bipartisanship, what's best for the country, and trying to build better international relations. Should probably start on the homefront with fellow citizens. :disgust

I think how she does all depends on the format of the debate. If they are asked regular questions and given a few minutes to answer and she can stick to the script she has spent the last few days memorizing she will do fine. When she could get into trouble is when they ask about things she is unprepared for of if they let the candidates ask each other questions. Biden has been around forever and has had years to learn this stuff so he is well prepared for this. She has been around a matter of weeks and has had to cram for it. Her problem is that when she doesn't know the answer to something she double talks and it makes her look like an idiot. If they start hitting her with things she is unprepared for it could get really ugly for her.

I think all she really has to do to help McCain out here is to do okay. She doesn't have to knock the ball out of the park, she just has come off decently. Also she is a radical religous conservative and she needs to be able to effectivly hide that during the debate. Her views are good for the party base, but not for the general public. If she lets it slip that she thinks books should be banned or even rape and incest victims should be forced to have their babies she will turn off a lot of the independent voters.

Tonight she can't really help McCain a whole lot, but if she fucks up she can hurt him badly. He is on the ropes and she could cause him a lot of heartache by screwing up tonight. She might surprise people by doing decently, but I think the odds are that she will not. All the spotlights are on her.

and obama also addressed congress.... mccain didnt say a word....

I don't think they're going to allow candidate interaction. This is why it's a Palin bonus.

The only thing would be the abortion policy question, but I'm not sure they're going to cover that again. I think it's a non-issue at this point. The conservative base loves her pro-life stance, liberals don't. Nobody is going to gain or lose ground on that. I don't think they're going to get into personal beliefs either which has been covered in interviews. I think focus is going to be on policy, experience, "how you would handle" this situation type of questions, economy. And focus/attacks will be levelled at the top of each ticket. Anything personal that may be damaging can probably be easily avoided in her answers.


My feeling is that script or no script, chances are she's going to struggle. The interviews weren't long in duration and she had to fumble around with answers. This is 90 minutes of presumably indepth discussion. For somebody that doesn't seem to be knowleagable on national and international affairs and economic policy, or even the track record of her own running mate, it'll be trying. But it can be pulled off. The best thing to do is the turn every question around somehow to focus on Obama and try to showcase his weaknesses.

I just think that lots of "prep" for a debate like this for somebody so unprepared is like cramming for an exam at the last minute when you didn't even go to classes throughout the school year. I've done it, and it didn't turn out well.

The moderator is allowed to ask any question she chooses, and I wouldn't be surprised to see her ask at least one that will throw Palin off track a little.
When Palin goes off track, all bets are off. Just look at the Katie Couric interview. Palin tried to use lots of buzzwords and smarmy anecdotes and she came across looking like a babbling idiot. She had no idea about what she was saying, and she tried to cover it up with smart talk and it backfired on her.
Just one of those moments tonight and it will be the thing people talk about all week.
Biden on the other hand has to reign in his verbose talk and ONLY refer to Palin as Gov. Palin and then he should do pretty well.

I'm really excited for this debate. At first I felt that Biden was going to murder Palin but now it seems that everyone has completely lowered their expectations to the point that if Palin even survives she wins.

Not only that but Biden has to "play nice" and be easy on her. Sad...

I really think she is an idiot but I also do not think i would be able to answer most of the questions any better then her... but then again... I am NOT RUNNING for VP and she shouldn't be either!

This is an interesting exercise in brainwashing techniques.

Nothing against you, abadfish - just you made two points in one post, and that makes it easy to quote.

The Republican talking heads on TV, eg, MSNBC, Fox, CNN - take your pick - have repeated two things over and over for the past week and a half.

1. Everyone has lowered their expectations for Sarah Palin so much it won't hurt McCain.

2. Biden needs to be nice or he'll look mean

Now, notice, all over GFY, and other boards, and in the local news.. and everywhere, everyone is saying, and worse, believing those two things.

1. It's already hurting McCain and will only get worse. Lowering expectations doesn't let anyone off the hook - it just means we already know how much that person sucks. Why the fuck would you lower your expectations when voting for the President/Vice President of America? For ANY reason? Isn't this the part where, rather than accepting lowered expectations, americans should stand up and say "WTF? - Are you kidding? YOU want to be Vice President? HAHAHAHA"?

Did your boss ever say to you "you really can't do the job I hired you for, but I've lowered my expectations, so I'll give you the promotion you don't deserve". If McCain/Palin wins, that's exactly what the boss is doing.


2. Biden does NOT have to be nice. He has to remain professional, and courteous, and that's it. God.. Americans have become such pussies over the last few decades that we think a guy has to pull punches in a debate between the two candidates running for the second most powerful position in the world, only because he's debating a mentally-challenged cult member from the backwoods.. and a female.

I hope Biden shreds her to pieces on the issues, all the while smiling, staying calm, and not saying anything stupid.

yah pretty much all she has to do is not fall on her face and she will be considered the winner even if she talks in circles and doesnt say anything.

I wouldn't refer to her at all..
I'd refer to anything in her direction as 'the McCain campaign'.. That prevents any danger of people yelling sexist as much and gives him a bit more room to stretch..

His bottom line needs to be trying to go after McCain and defend Obama..

Just ignore Palin.. If she messes up.. let it go.. The media will certainly take care of that for him. Just as they will if he screws up...

They're both gonna be under a microscope tonight.

All that needs to be done is have the moderator ask questions that require detailed answers.. He can deal with that.. she can't..

^^^^^^what he said.

Reading all these posts which all make sense. It's just kinda sad that it's come to this isn't it? Here we are at a turning point in our country and a turning point in world history really and we're talking about 'walking on eggshells', how to dumb things down so we dont confuse the masses, how not to offend women and how to put things as delicately as possible..