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Choder 10-31-2002 02:37 PM

Big sponsors lowering rates
 
Would you say it's bullshit if a big sponsor said they were going to lower their payout rates because of the new Visa regulations? Considering it's just a yearly fee they need to pay.

ace0r 10-31-2002 02:42 PM

i doubt any 'big' sponsor would..

The Other Steve 10-31-2002 04:17 PM

Well I have to disagree, I think it is perfectly possible and if it does happen it will be one more thing flowing on from the new Visa regs.

If the sponsor had been using one of the big billing companies then their charge backs would have been hidden in the figures of hundreds of sites. Now that each pay site has to carry its own charge back ratio the big guys are going to have to pay a lot more attention to that nasty 1% figure.

When you think about it sponsors must have found it difficult to pay a high commission to their webmasters - even on trials - and at the same time maintain a high quality members area.

One way to cut back on charge backs is to have a members area that offers all the good stuff that is implied in the tour and to do that they have to find money to spend. One way to find that is by reducing commissions.

My crystal ball is a little fuzzy but I think you will see more sponsors reducing commissions, more sponsors moving to a revenue sharing model rather than the current one off payment and I think you will see a lot of people ditching trials.

DrGuile 10-31-2002 04:19 PM

you're probably talking about sexhit.

and they are lowering rates because they are stopping free trials.

picindex 11-01-2002 06:15 PM

sexhit is going to stop the free trial program?

Lensman 11-01-2002 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrGuile
you're probably talking about sexhit.

and they are lowering rates because they are stopping free trials.

Lowering rates because they are STOPPING free trials??? Wouldn't it be the other way around?

Milton 11-01-2002 06:24 PM

Intressting...where is CJ tell us now how it will be !!!
cj cj cj cj
:warning

FATPad 11-01-2002 06:54 PM

Probably less people getting tricked into signing up for a month, so less money to pay out.

Hustlin Entertainment 11-01-2002 07:00 PM

nay

WiredGuy 11-01-2002 07:12 PM

SexHit's payouts dropping to $45/su instead of $70. Quite a large drop but I can't say I'm surprised. I imagine their chargeback ratios were quite high.

WG

Mr.Fiction 11-01-2002 07:17 PM

Everyone quit porn now, it's over!

BV 11-01-2002 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
Probably less people getting tricked into signing up for a month, so less money to pay out.
Exactamundo!

Jayson 11-01-2002 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
SexHit's payouts dropping to $45/su instead of $70. Quite a large drop but I can't say I'm surprised. I imagine their chargeback ratios were quite high.

WG

CJ is going to hate me posting this here, but there was an article in the papers in Aus today, saying they had to amend their accounts for last financial year as they had underprovisioned for chargebacks by A$2.28 million.

The article is here - http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/...027038794.html

pimplink 11-01-2002 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
Probably less people getting tricked into signing up for a month, so less money to pay out.
You might as well hit all the "free" AVS sites and all other "free" paysites as well. Maybe Sexhit was just overextended.

Probono 11-01-2002 07:31 PM

I will wager that this will become an industry trend as companies become more agressive about refunding to avaoid chargebacks. I would not be surprised to see the 3 day trial follow the Dodo bird into the archives of extinct creatures also.

It is a bitch to have someone chargeback months of charges once their wife looks at a bill and asks them to explain the charges. I deal with the stuff daily and it means refund, refund, refund.

FreeFastHost 11-01-2002 07:36 PM

I don't sexhit is STOPPING free trials? If they are, I'm not using them anymore, and I've send them thousands of signups...

Probono 11-01-2002 07:38 PM

I don't sexhit is STOPPING free trials? If they are, I'm not using them anymore, and I've send them thousands of signups...



Never said that they were. I was dusting off my crystal ball.

XXX_Jman 11-01-2002 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Milton
Intressting...where is CJ tell us now how it will be !!!
cj cj cj cj
:warning

CJ has left Sexhit...

XXX_Jman 11-01-2002 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FreeFastHost
I don't sexhit is STOPPING free trials? If they are, I'm not using them anymore, and I've send them thousands of signups...
I think you will find the same with Intergal and Sexhit.....$45 per paid trial now...
$70 for free trial=fucking ridiculous!

Pornkings 11-01-2002 11:14 PM

WOW maybe things cought up with them.

XXX_Jman 11-01-2002 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings
WOW maybe things cought up with them.
yeh...reality

CowboyAtHeart 11-01-2002 11:38 PM

*shrug*. Sponsors pay what they will. IMO, if an honest sponsor
decided to lower their rates, I'd accept it. There are so many dishonest
sponsors that might just start shaving traffic, ect, that I'd be
happy they said so. Although, as another poster said, I doubt
BIG sponsors would do so. BIG sponsors would do 200+ joins a day,
at say $30-$40, what's $750 to them other than telling the wife/husband
no, we have to pay visa, no "super fancy restaurant at $350/plate" this week.

drunkdollars 11-01-2002 11:45 PM

Sexhit= Adultshop?
Im lost

Jayson 11-02-2002 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by drunkdollars
Sexhit= Adultshop?
Im lost

adultshop bought sexhit a while back

Sambuka 11-02-2002 05:36 AM

Yep and adultshops shares here in Aussie dropped from 24 cents to 7.5 cents a share overnight because of all this VISA STUFF. They were going to report 12 million profit and then they said "oops we are going to report a loss for the next 2 quaters"

HS-Trixxxia 11-02-2002 06:46 AM

CJ quit as of October 26th.
Last week I was checking my links and saw this 2.99 trial on the sexhit sites. I'm checking it now and it's back to free 3-day trial.
I remember cj mentioning their chargeback ratio for them was lower than 2% and this she mentioned before the Visa regulations.

I'm not sure and maybe it's something we have to wait for, but so far they are the only ones to be lowering their payout rates.

Terenzo 11-02-2002 08:32 AM

isn't fnp sending their new members to intergal?? this could influence those free avses that use other programs for their traffic.


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