Russian Navy fleet sailing to Venezuela - 2 bombers already there
 

A FLEET of Russian war ships. Not just a single ship.

They say it's for training but God damn... they have not done this since the Cold War. They say the bombers can carry nukes but won't confirm they have warheads on them or not right now.

Am I the only one who thinks this is bad?

Don't worry. If nukes rain down these days we'll never see it coming.

Just enjoy your life.

Don't worry, life under the Russians will be much better...

You will get a health service and the foods better....And have you seen the women ?

The US has taken over the middle east oil so Russia needs to secure the stuff in Venezuela... Makes sense to me... It's just a big game of risk and we're the fuel that powers it..

If Russian takes us over will we all become better hackers?

There is an upside to everything you know.

BTW:

We can thank the idiot leader in Georgia for this.

Why are we backing this fucking clown??

Why not? The US Navy left Black Sea just recently. So why Russian can't do the same training on the Caribbean Sea?

Consider it as a return visit of an old friend :winkwink:

It`s not very necessary to get it into the head... It`s not our problem. Russia and the United States are both depend from each of others ;)

:thumbsup

Because he is a "democratically elected leader" :winkwink: Oh wait, he loves Stalin and Beria! But who cares until "Georgia is the best democracy in the region" :1orglaugh

P.S. http://georgia-vs-russia.com/?comment - LOL at Georgian comments there :)

Some interesting stats BTW: http://georgia-vs-russia.com/?stats - they show which countries support Saakashvili and which don't :)

The bombers were reported here weeks ago. They said that they are within striking range of the US.

When they left Russia, they were escorted to Ven by UN fighters that had orders to shoot them down if they attempted to enter US airspace.

At least thats the way it was reported on Mexican News.

The american foreign policy is a disaster, instead of talking with Chavez and make me feel someone important, US attacks him with media bullshit and economical support to the opposition... If now there are russian bombers there, it´s once again Bush´s blame.

Chavez is a joke, but still the USA just feeds him the fuel he needs to be more of one.

If he's such a joke then why is our CIA so obsessed with him?

We are absolutely trying to dismantle his government.

And that's 100% true. This is a normal practice for such operations.

Yea they arrived a little bit ago. Didn't know UN had orders to shoot them down if they flew into US airspace.

lets blow them up and say we didnt see their flags like the USS Liberty incident

think theyd believe us?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

Russians have not done this since the Cold War. Not very normal.

I'm not worried, but I see it as something that is going to cause a problem somewhere. Remember the Cuban missile crisis? That almost got really ugly.

I just see it as an old enemy being too close for US comfort and the US fucking things up somehow. I'm not worried about the Russians.

IMPOSSIBLE ....

They have NO foreign policy :2 cents:

would have thought the russians would be more interested in protecting their economy, but hey..

When Bush is gone, Chavez is really really gonna miss him... "please come back, Bush, without you people will start looking at my domestic policies"

They haven't but they will be doing it in future, perhaps regularly. What's your problem with that?

Why? The US Navi did this in August, Russians made a return visit in September. Looks more than just normal to me.

Course I remember it. But do you remember what was a reason for it? The US nukes in Turkey! So Soviet nukes on Cuba were just way to ask Kennedy to took the missiles away from Soviet borders.

Look, you just almost quoted that Russians say about the US military forces. Read: "I just see it as an old enemy being too close for Russian comfort and the Russian fucking things up somehow. I'm not worried about the Americans." :winkwink:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1218...googlenews_wsj

oh fuck..

Russians don't need to protect their economy at all. Perhaps you have confused something because it's the US economy collapsing right now. The country with $9 Trillion debt is going to "spend" $1.2 Trillion more to nationalize various Fannies and Freddies and rise the internal debt up to $11 Trillions. Do you understand that the whole country lives on credit while it has a negative budget right now?

As about Russia, so it's economics depends on oil, gas etc, but not on stock index which may fall and jump as it want (some one here just makes VERY big money buying the shares at their bottom). Once again Russian economics is barely related to stock indexes. If you are dumb in economics, why don't you learn something, but prefer to show your ignorance again and again in various threads? I'm just curious :)

Only if you consider that Hugo invited them, and that Bolivia and Venezuela have both expelled the American Ambassadors.

Then to answer your question, yep it's bad, and it gives idiot (Hugo) more juice.

Here is some background from CNN:


And here is what Hugo, had to say to Americans:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XOlA1YVB1OI
YANKEES DE MIERDA GO HOME

Someone tell me why I have some strange feeling that this won't happen if the USA didn't arm/learn Georgian army, and support Saakashvili's attack on Russian peace keepers in South Ossetia? :)

hahaha that's what I call optimistic :thumbsup

were all gonna die!!!!!!! hahahahaaaa

Wait? You mean someone is not scared of us? Holy Shit! How could this happen? Our country is doing so well right now, how the fuck do they not recognize we are a force to be reckoned with??

i would think you should care about us economy not russian, cause once it hits the shitcan, your arctic pesos will be worthless again.

Listen Russian... I don't have a problem with Russians there. I only see the problem as to how the USA is going to handle it and fuck things up.

cyberxxx is anti-american he prolly wanna see us all die :(

Where are you getting this shit man? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Dont think the USA or the west could afford another war atm. Our economic situation over here in the UK is quickly going down the drain to. The "big players" in the world are allways playing games with each other, and Russia now wants its "international player status" back and besides that the Russian economic situation is far better than ours and its geting better.

Russia holds the world's largest natural gas reserves, the second largest coal reserves, and the eighth largest oil reserves. Russia is also the world's largest exporter of natural gas, the second largest oil exporter and the third largest energy consumer.

The natural resources is something that the UK and most of the west does not have

http://www.eia.doe.gov/cabs/Russia/Background.html

I think in the not to far future they will be one of the major powers along side China and the USA

you have defended the attack and killing of innocent researchers aboard an American vessel before, sooo..... two and two = 4

Listen non-Russian... Actually I haven't asked anything about your "problem with Russians". I've asked about the problem described in your post quoted above, and mentioned here: :)

don't worry, who will start world war3 and for what?

Me??? Can you please post a link to that "my" statement? Perhaps it was you who have defended the attack and killing of innocent researchers aboard an American vessel before. Am I wrong?

im not going to argue with you again over this, but claiming that the USS Liberty incident didnt happen like those on the vessel claimed it did and defending it by saying "it happened 41 years ago, those were different times" takes away from the los of life of the innocent people onboard.

as i told you then, i will take the word of an Admiral and highest ranking Navy Commander over some Russian cheering on the attacks of our US ships.

now here you are in a thread about ships again... no wonder.

;-)

Sorry man but I really don't understand what are you talking about right now. I don't know the story about some "American vessel with innocent people on board" as well as I have no idea what the "USS Liberty incident" is. Really.

Perhaps you have confused me with another person. I'm also don't want to argue with you especially because you can't prove your own words with at least one URL to my post.

BTW, dope is an evil :Graucho

I think he is confusing you with a nick like Cybkpo , who has as location EUSSR or something similar .

I think so.

3 ships is really problem for country with 515.400.000.000$ budget on military expenses (without war in Irag) in 2009?

95 % of military bases in the world belong USA
http://www.alternet.org/story/47998
Russian bases have been closed in Cuba and Vietnam after Cold War but USA have opened some new bases near Russia (Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, for example). Just for PEACE, of course

"Am I the only one who thinks this is bad?"

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh lmao

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/20/wo...russia.html?em

http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-09-17-voa61.cfm

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/articl.../42/371042.htm



it appears many experts disagree with you.

I don't give a flying fuck about all these "experts". I just know that Russian economics and stock exchange are absolutely different "worlds". Russia makes its wealth on oil, gas, wood, metals etc. You don't have to be a genius to understand that there is no relation between Russian budget which is positive BTW, and young and unstable stock exchange.

All these "expert" articles are just speculating on a psychology of morons. For example, read this: "There doomsday" and look at the date - experts my ass :)

BTW, my wife is an economist and she's making a good money on Russian stock right now even despite the fact that shorts are temporary forbidden :)

How many times have you posted that link in the past 5 years? lol