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Star 69 09-17-2008 03:03 PM

New Canon EOS 5D Mark II 21,2 Mpx full frame & Full HD video capture (photogs inside)
 
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/ca...t-(15)_001.jpg

Amstelveen, The Netherlands, 17 September 2008: Canon announces the full frame, 21.1 Megapixel EOS 5D Mark II: the first EOS with full High Definition video capability.

Compact, lightweight with environmental protection, EOS 5D successor boasts a newly designed Canon CMOS sensor, with ISO sensitivity up to 25,600 for shooting in near dark conditions. The new DIGIC 4 processor combines with the improved CMOS sensor to deliver medium format territory image quality at 3.9 frames per second, for up to 310 frames.

Triggered from Live View Mode, HD video capture allows users to shoot uninterrupted at full 1080 resolution at 30fps ? for amazing quality footage with outstanding levels of detail and realism.

The integration of HD movie capability into a high-end 21.1 Megapixel camera opens a multitude of new possibilities for photojournalists and news photographers. With its full frame CMOS sensor and outstanding ISO performance, the EOS 5D Mark II will appeal to any photographer in search of the finest camera equipment available ? from studio and wedding to nature and travel photographers.
Other improvements to the EOS 5D include

* Addition of Canon?s EOS Integrated Cleaning System, with a new Fluorine coating on the low-pass filter
* Larger 3.0? Clear View LCD with VGA resolution, a 170° angle of view and anti-reflective coatings
* Improved menu system including Quick Control Screen for more direct access to common settings
* Automatic peripheral illumination correction, utilising detailed EF lens information to optimise JPEG images straight out of the camera
* Magnesium alloy construction with additional environmental protection
* UDMA memory card compatibility.

More info at www.dpreview.com

I think the full HD video capture it's a good thing for DSLR cameras and big +

Price

? US: $ 2,699
? EU: ? 2,499
? UK: £ 2,299

Axel XXX 09-17-2008 04:19 PM

Finally .............

buzzy 09-17-2008 04:22 PM

Looks good but i'm thinking of buying the Nikon D90

pornask 09-17-2008 04:25 PM

Video camera function is worthless. It's as worthless as video camera with high quality still feature. If I wanted to shoot video, I’d get myself a video camera that's entirely built to accommodate video taping. Was waiting for 5D update, but this is a big turn off. One more thing in it that can get fucked.

Intrinsic 09-17-2008 04:30 PM

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7...1208974fm2.jpg

uhh fixing one sec, ahh i could care less

Star 69 09-17-2008 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornask (Post 14772282)
Video camera function is worthless. It's as worthless as video camera with high quality still feature. If I wanted to shoot video, I?d get myself a video camera that's entirely built to accommodate video taping. Was waiting for 5D update, but this is a big turn off. One more thing in it that can get fucked.

big turn off??? What are you talking about 21,1 Mpx, DIGIC IV, and other new features it's a big turn off????:warning

CurrentlySober 09-17-2008 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Star 69 (Post 14772469)
big turn off??? What are you talking about 21,1 Mpx, DIGIC IV, and other new features it's a big turn off????:warning

Yeah... Its a peice of shit man... Dont follow the crowd...

Follow the pussy :)

AaronM 09-17-2008 05:35 PM

IMHO, video is a waste but I'll be picking up one of these cameras anyway. Been waiting for a 5D replacement. :)

AaronM 09-17-2008 05:46 PM

Just tried to order one through B&H. Not there yet. Looks like it may come out next month.

I'll be waiting. :glugglug

"Pricing and Availability
The Canon EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR camera is compatible with Canon EF lenses and is scheduled for delivery by the end of November. The EOS 5D Mark II will be sold in a body-only configuration at an estimated retail price of $2,699iii. It will additionally be offered in a kit version with Canon's EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM zoom lens at an estimated retail price of $3,499iv."

http://www.usa.canon.com/templatedat...17_5dmkii.html

rbrruss 09-17-2008 05:47 PM

I'm thinking the video function might come in handy in some situations.

During a studio shoot, I'd obviously shoot video using a video camera. But there are situations (nightclubs and events, for example) where you don't necessarily want to be lugging still and video cameras around. Might be nice to have the option to capture some video in those situations.

brandonstills 09-17-2008 05:53 PM

All I want is 4 mega-pixels, full frame, a professional body and I don't want to spend more than $3000. What's with loading these cameras with all these useless features. I want RAW files but I don't want it taking up 20 MB on my hard drive for every photo. The only Canon camera that does full frame and a pro body is the 1ds and I'm not spending 8000 for something when for the features I want it shouldn't be more than 3000.

AaronM 09-17-2008 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonstills (Post 14772629)
All I want is 4 mega-pixels, full frame, a professional body and I don't want to spend more than $3000. What's with loading these cameras with all these useless features. I want RAW files but I don't want it taking up 20 MB on my hard drive for every photo. The only Canon camera that does full frame and a pro body is the 1ds and I'm not spending 8000 for something when for the features I want it shouldn't be more than 3000.


Write to Canon. I'm sure they will accommodate your wants. :thumbsup

rowan 09-17-2008 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonstills (Post 14772629)
All I want is 4 mega-pixels, full frame, a professional body and I don't want to spend more than $3000. What's with loading these cameras with all these useless features. I want RAW files but I don't want it taking up 20 MB on my hard drive for every photo. The only Canon camera that does full frame and a pro body is the 1ds and I'm not spending 8000 for something when for the features I want it shouldn't be more than 3000.

Go back in time to change the future, or buy a second hand 1D.

SomeCreep 09-17-2008 06:45 PM

Canon's rock.

brandonstills 09-17-2008 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 14772712)
Go back in time to change the future, or buy a second hand 1D.

Yeah, I ended up picking up a used 1D Mark II for $1300.

rowan 09-17-2008 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornask (Post 14772282)
Video camera function is worthless. It's as worthless as video camera with high quality still feature. If I wanted to shoot video, I?d get myself a video camera that's entirely built to accommodate video taping. Was waiting for 5D update, but this is a big turn off. One more thing in it that can get fucked.

Low res video sensor upsized to "high" res pic
or
High res pic sensor downsized to low res video

See the diff? You can take away detail (and quality), but you can never add it. :2 cents:

kahell 09-17-2008 08:00 PM

i wish i had money to blow this baby away

Catalyst 09-17-2008 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonstills (Post 14772770)
Yeah, I ended up picking up a used 1D Mark II for $1300.

That is what I use and I love it..

it has one of the best dymanic ranges of any camera.

Star 69 09-18-2008 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbrruss (Post 14772622)
I'm thinking the video function might come in handy in some situations.

During a studio shoot, I'd obviously shoot video using a video camera. But there are situations (nightclubs and events, for example) where you don't necessarily want to be lugging still and video cameras around. Might be nice to have the option to capture some video in those situations.

You are right 100%

JP-pornshooter 09-18-2008 09:46 AM

it is priced lower than the new nikon d700 which is also full frame but only at 12 mp and no video capabilities but similar in all other areas.
sounds like a good deal to me, at 22 mp it must be on the heels of most medium digital backs. canon shooters must be excited about this.
HD video? I can see some photojournalists having good use for this feature but not many other photographers. But fun thing to have..

brandonstills 09-18-2008 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter (Post 14775211)
it is priced lower than the new nikon d700 which is also full frame but only at 12 mp and no video capabilities but similar in all other areas.
sounds like a good deal to me, at 22 mp it must be on the heels of most medium digital backs. canon shooters must be excited about this.
HD video? I can see some photojournalists having good use for this feature but not many other photographers. But fun thing to have..

Medium format resolutions with 35mm frames can not compete. Just because the resolution is there does not mean the quality is there. It is a law of physics that the smaller the sensor cells the more they more noise they will have.

F-U-Jimmy 09-18-2008 10:30 AM

I use Nikons but this camera looks to be a great value. Nikon seen to have stopped at 12 megs whereas Canon are still aiming higher.
I dont think the video feature is a good idea as someone pointed out its just something else to go wrong. After 12 megs the increase in quality will not show on the internet at 72 pixels but the thing to look for is D-max this will give you a much better picture the larger the number. You can see this when you scan a picture with a cheap scanner with a d-max of say 2.4 then scan the same image on a scanner with a d-max of 4.00 The quality difference is amazing

HorseShit 09-18-2008 11:38 AM

AaronM after you buy a new one sell me your old one thanks

Jimmy Nobody 09-18-2008 01:52 PM

I will be making a purchase. Great camera for a good price. $2600 not that bad.

cybermike 12-11-2008 09:44 AM

http://vincentlaforet.smugmug.com/ga...77930419_dgxvY wow look at the video this guy shot!

rowan 12-11-2008 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybermike (Post 15178271)
http://vincentlaforet.smugmug.com/ga...77930419_dgxvY wow look at the video this guy shot!

Wow, that shows one big advantage over a typical consumer/prosumer video camera... awesome DoF which would be impossible with a smaller sensor. Plus the large range of native lenses rather than fooling around with screw on adaptors.

The only thing I'd be concerned about is the fact that a DSLR body is designed to be braced for a single capture - it may be a little less stable for moving images...

I've had a 1DsII and a high level consumer video camera for a few years now, might be time to think about consolidating and upgrading. :thumbsup

DeanCapture 12-11-2008 11:36 PM

I use the old 5D bodies - just love them :thumbsup

Kroy 12-11-2008 11:39 PM

Can't believe nobody has mentioned the RED DSMC (Digital Stills & Motion Camera) system yet.
Scarlet will give Canon and Nikon a run for its money (when RED decides to finally...FINALLY release the darn thing)

Check it out here: http://www.red.com/epic_scarlet/

woj 12-11-2008 11:56 PM

nice camera, not a bad price either :thumbsup

rowan 12-12-2008 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kroy (Post 15181726)
Can't believe nobody has mentioned the RED DSMC (Digital Stills & Motion Camera) system yet.
Scarlet will give Canon and Nikon a run for its money (when RED decides to finally...FINALLY release the darn thing)

Check it out here: http://www.red.com/epic_scarlet/

As far as I can tell the FF35 sensor is the same size as a 35mm 3:2 full frame DSLR... $9750 for "brain only" - do ya think it will compete with the 5D? :winkwink:

Kroy 12-12-2008 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 15182729)
As far as I can tell the FF35 sensor is the same size as a 35mm 3:2 full frame DSLR... $9750 for "brain only" - do ya think it will compete with the 5D? :winkwink:

You are correct, the FF35 is 36x24 and therefore full frame size.

They also offer the S 35 Mysterium X sensor-based brain at around $2500, with a basic level full DSMC camera at around $3K.
The S35 should more than suffice for most people, it's 30x15 so not quite full frame but close.

At THAT price point they will surely give Canon and Nikon a run for their money, at least in semi pro and pro circles.

And since one can just swap out sensors without having to buy a whole new camera one could start "small" with the Mysterium X and upgrade later to the Monstro/FF35 which is full frame.
However Canon, unlike RED, actually releases products, not just pretty renderings of it.
While the RED ONE has been out for a while we'll have to see when the rest of the bunch actually shows up.
Once this happens purchasing pro level photo and video gear will be a whole 'nother game.

Personally I'm very intrigued by RED but until they have all their ducks in a row won't jump on the wagon just yet.

tranza 12-12-2008 07:11 AM

Seems to be a great camera!

JP-pornshooter 12-12-2008 12:28 PM

nikon just released their new flagship
D3X at a stunning 24.5 MP capture (35.9 x 24 mm)
MSRP $8K

i kinda miss my old Fuji S2, best skin tones ever in jpeg mode..
how are the new fujis? i could see myself getting another fuji if they still produce those nice skin tones.

CIVMatt 12-12-2008 12:34 PM

Fuck the video, save me money

firecracker 12-12-2008 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 14772243)
Looks good but i'm thinking of buying the Nikon D90

I bought a Nikon D60. I promptly returned it and love my Canon XSI Rebel. I was told by Ritz camera that though the Nikon camera is good, it is planned on being discontinued...Just a thought

Kudles 12-12-2008 01:29 PM

Wow thats nice

Ravensp 12-15-2008 09:32 AM

nice camera!

rowan 12-15-2008 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIVMatt (Post 15184960)
Fuck the video, save me money

Both video and still use the same sensor so there's no cost saving in "removing" it. :thumbsup


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