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Fucksakes 09-04-2008 05:13 PM

Cookies.. who gets the sale.
 
ok seems after 9 years in this biz, I am too dumb to know this answer exactly..

surfer visits site A.. gets cookie.. surfer than visits site B and joins

does site B over write cookie and get the sale.. or does site A get the sale?


I was under the impression that if cookie lasted x amount of time.. than site A would get the sale as long as surfer visited site B in the time frame cookie was set for.

fatfoo 09-04-2008 05:15 PM

good question. bump

GigoloShawn 09-04-2008 05:16 PM

Depends on the gateway and how it's implemented.

NATS consults both cookies and affiliate ID.

Fucksakes 09-04-2008 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GigoloShawn (Post 14710011)
Depends on the gateway and how it's implemented.

NATS consults both cookies and affiliate ID.

could you explain.. for us less smart people, that thought cookies were for monsters only.

HomerSimpson 09-04-2008 05:18 PM

site B gets the sale...

TheDoc 09-04-2008 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fucksakes (Post 14710000)
ok seems after 9 years in this biz, I am too dumb to know this answer exactly..

surfer visits site A.. gets cookie.. surfer than visits site B and joins

does site B over write cookie and get the sale.. or does site A get the sale?


I was under the impression that if cookie lasted x amount of time.. than site A would get the sale as long as surfer visited site B in the time frame cookie was set for.

If site a and site b - are the same domain, different tours, unique sites. Then the sale to site b would show up for site a. A result of having the same billing codes in.

If site a and b are totally different sites. Site A's cookie means nothing, as the domain is different.

Fucksakes 09-04-2008 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerSimpson (Post 14710020)
site B gets the sale...

if this is true, why all the bitching about how long a cookie lasts..

hell nowadays.. the chances of a surfer running into site B is huge.

GigoloShawn 09-04-2008 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fucksakes (Post 14710017)
could you explain.. for us less smart people, that thought cookies were for monsters only.

The way NATS uses it is explained in the strack documentation.

NATS lets you set the cookie to different times before it is expired; the official documentation says 10 days, but I've seen different times on different servers.

If the cookie is set and valid, it gets the sale as it was there before the latest affiliate code. If the cookie is not set, expired, or otherwise, the second affiliate will get the credit.

This is assuming a perfect structure where someone has their cookies set properly, the NATS server is configured, session data is not prematurely expired, and the moon is in Jupiter, of course.

But, the rule of thumb is this:
cookie > nats code > type-in

moeloubani 09-04-2008 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fucksakes (Post 14710030)
if this is true, why all the bitching about how long a cookie lasts..

hell nowadays.. the chances of a surfer running into site B is huge.

same as the chances of the surfer running into site A lol

TheDoc 09-04-2008 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fucksakes (Post 14710030)
if this is true, why all the bitching about how long a cookie lasts..

hell nowadays.. the chances of a surfer running into site B is huge.

That's to stop a Webmasters, from stealing your surfer, say through spyware or a small iframe. If you visit tourA, then within a very short period of time, you visit tourA again but this time through a different ref code, the first Webmaster referral would get the sale.

If the paysite has a spyware/malware attack problem, then this corrects it.

Fucksakes 09-04-2008 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14710041)
same as the chances of the surfer running into site A lol

I mean if I sent a surfer to my site.. and he leaves.. a very good chance that if he surfs a few more sites he will hit site B and my cookie will be garbage.

Fucksakes 09-04-2008 05:28 PM

ok another question.. with AWE "livejasim" they got a 14 day cookie and I only make sales from them ppl in that time frame... now if any of my paying customers surf the net and see another livejasmin ad and click it.. Do I lose them? or are they mine for 14 days.

GigoloShawn 09-04-2008 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fucksakes (Post 14710062)
ok another question.. with AWE "livejasim" they got a 14 day cookie and I only make sales from them ppl in that time frame... now if any of my paying customers surf the net and see another livejasmin ad and click it.. Do I lose them? or are they mine for 14 days.

I'm afraid that I'm not familiar with this system, but your easiest way to test this would be to install "Live HTTP Headers" for Firefox.

Follow your link, then follow someone else's; see if your cookie is forcefully changed.

Fucksakes 09-04-2008 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GigoloShawn (Post 14710072)
I'm afraid that I'm not familiar with this system, but your easiest way to test this would be to install "Live HTTP Headers" for Firefox.

Follow your link, then follow someone else's; see if your cookie is forcefully changed.

cool I'll do that.

GigoloShawn 09-04-2008 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fucksakes (Post 14710083)
cool I'll do that.

That method works for any piece of proprietary software that uses cookies. Momma didn't raise no shavers. :thumbsup

Manowar 09-04-2008 05:41 PM

i always take it as Site B getting it

96ukssob 09-04-2008 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manowar (Post 14710120)
i always take it as Site B getting it

im pretty sure this is true... if not, there wouldnt be so many people pissed at zango :winkwink:

GigoloShawn 09-04-2008 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 14710240)
im pretty sure this is true... if not, there wouldnt be so many people pissed at zango :winkwink:

That's hardly the issue with Zango at all. Zango pops OVER the sites people are attempting to join.

Anyone remember the CCBill checkout popup? That's not even opening shop in front of a competitors without permission, that's stepping right in front of the cash register and pretending to be a cashier.

Disagree? Then why did they hide/disable the URL? That, to me, is outright admittance of theft.

IllTestYourGirls 09-04-2008 06:34 PM

Did we get two different answers in this thread or am I too drunk?

GigoloShawn 09-04-2008 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 14710269)
Did we get two different answers in this thread or am I too drunk?

You did, but mine presupposes that you are on the same domain and using NATS.

Fucksakes 09-04-2008 07:36 PM

cookie stuffing seems to be a huge topic around the net today but I am having a really hard time figuring out why? I thought maybe this was affecting me possibly so I had to dig all the info I could only to find out ... I wasted my time and should just keep working.

another day wasted, time for bed.

The Heron 09-04-2008 07:41 PM

Site B overwrites the Site A cookie, simple as that.

garce 09-04-2008 07:55 PM

I have no idea how this works, but I get a fair number of "bookmark" sales across all my NATS sponsors every pay period. I'm guessing that's a cookied surfer signing up for a site at a later date, but I could be wrong.

Either that or people actually bookmark paysites with my refcode. Who knows, I'm drunk.

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 09-04-2008 08:41 PM

so if site b gets the sale, theoretically wouldn't it be better to mid midway down, or at the bottom of the first page for your keyword searches? lol. most people click at least a couple links usually, do they not?


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